Vista - Vista Upgrade Advisor whines foolishly about Intel AHCI and USB Host Controllers

Why is Microsoft always so damn anal everytime they release a new
version of Windows?

I have 2 eSATA high capacity hard drives that work fine in XP Pro with
Intel drivers either inside the box as internal drives or as external
drives in enclosers as does my USB host controller supporting multiple
devices. Yet the Vista Upgrade Advisor nags "There is no compatibility
data available for this device" on both which gives no useful
information at all.

Does this mean these MOTHERBOARD build-in devices won't work in Vista?
The moronic "advisor" doesn't say they won't work, rather is just says
no information which obviously to anyone with active brain cells,
which leaves out the boys at Redmond means nothing if the whole idea
is to install and run the "Microsoft Visa Ugrade Advisor" if it is too
dumb to know. Neither Gigabyte or Intel are small companies, so WHY
doesn't Microsoft know/hasn't tested these drivers?

The motherboard in question is a Gigabyte 6-Quad GA-965P-DQ6 state of
the art Intel Core 2 Duo Supporting top of the line premium
motherboard and clams to be "Vista ready" with stickers all over the
box, same claims in the manual. Works fine in XP Pro.

What's going on?

> Does this mean these MOTHERBOARD build-in devices won't work in Vista?
> The moronic "advisor" doesn't say they won't work, rather is just says
> no information which obviously to anyone with active brain cells,
> which leaves out the boys at Redmond means nothing if the whole idea
> is to install and run the "Microsoft Visa Ugrade Advisor" if it is too
> dumb to know. Neither Gigabyte or Intel are small companies, so WHY
> doesn't Microsoft know/hasn't tested these drivers?

It means what it says: MS has no idea if it will work or not. They're
being honest.
They can't tell you if it will work or not if the vendor hasn't told them.
MS can't test
every piece of hardware on the market, not even from major vendors. It has
to rely
on the manufacturers themselves for data. Do you want MS to guess if it'll
work
or not?

Tom Lake

The Advisor is just that, for advise.
There are no guarantees implied with the Upgrade advisor thus the name.

That statement is actually very useful.
It means you need to contact the manufacturer since the advisor has
insufficient information on the hardware.
The hardware manufacturers know their hardware best.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"mad-windows user" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> Why is Microsoft always so damn anal everytime they release a new
> version of Windows?
>
> I have 2 eSATA high capacity hard drives that work fine in XP Pro with
> Intel drivers either inside the box as internal drives or as external
> drives in enclosers as does my USB host controller supporting multiple
> devices. Yet the Vista Upgrade Advisor nags "There is no compatibility
> data available for this device" on both which gives no useful
> information at all.
>
> Does this mean these MOTHERBOARD build-in devices won't work in Vista?
> The moronic "advisor" doesn't say they won't work, rather is just says
> no information which obviously to anyone with active brain cells,
> which leaves out the boys at Redmond means nothing if the whole idea
> is to install and run the "Microsoft Visa Ugrade Advisor" if it is too
> dumb to know. Neither Gigabyte or Intel are small companies, so WHY
> doesn't Microsoft know/hasn't tested these drivers?
>
> The motherboard in question is a Gigabyte 6-Quad GA-965P-DQ6 state of
> the art Intel Core 2 Duo Supporting top of the line premium
> motherboard and clams to be "Vista ready" with stickers all over the
> box, same claims in the manual. Works fine in XP Pro.
>
> What's going on?

"mad-windows user" wrote:
> Why is Microsoft always so damn anal everytime they release a new
> version of Windows?
>
> I have 2 eSATA high capacity hard drives that work fine in XP Pro with
> Intel drivers either inside the box as internal drives or as external
> drives in enclosers as does my USB host controller supporting multiple
> devices. Yet the Vista Upgrade Advisor nags "There is no compatibility
> data available for this device" on both which gives no useful
> information at all.
>
> Does this mean these MOTHERBOARD build-in devices won't work in Vista?
> The moronic "advisor" doesn't say they won't work, rather is just says
> no information which obviously to anyone with active brain cells,
> which leaves out the boys at Redmond means nothing if the whole idea
> is to install and run the "Microsoft Visa Ugrade Advisor" if it is too
> dumb to know. Neither Gigabyte or Intel are small companies, so WHY
> doesn't Microsoft know/hasn't tested these drivers?
>
> The motherboard in question is a Gigabyte 6-Quad GA-965P-DQ6 state of
> the art Intel Core 2 Duo Supporting top of the line premium
> motherboard and clams to be "Vista ready" with stickers all over the
> box, same claims in the manual. Works fine in XP Pro.
>
> What's going on?

Thank you for bringing this to attention of the forum.
Now, if you really would like this fixed, please report this issue to MS
(using the bug report tool ).

Regards,
--PA

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:00:02 -0800, Pavel A. <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com>
wrote:

>"mad-windows user" wrote:
>> Why is Microsoft always so damn anal everytime they release a new
>> version of Windows?
>>
>> I have 2 eSATA high capacity hard drives that work fine in XP Pro with
>> Intel drivers either inside the box as internal drives or as external
>> drives in enclosers as does my USB host controller supporting multiple
>> devices. Yet the Vista Upgrade Advisor nags "There is no compatibility
>> data available for this device" on both which gives no useful
>> information at all.
>>
>> Does this mean these MOTHERBOARD build-in devices won't work in Vista?
>> The moronic "advisor" doesn't say they won't work, rather is just says
>> no information which obviously to anyone with active brain cells,
>> which leaves out the boys at Redmond means nothing if the whole idea
>> is to install and run the "Microsoft Visa Ugrade Advisor" if it is too
>> dumb to know. Neither Gigabyte or Intel are small companies, so WHY
>> doesn't Microsoft know/hasn't tested these drivers?
>>
>> The motherboard in question is a Gigabyte 6-Quad GA-965P-DQ6 state of
>> the art Intel Core 2 Duo Supporting top of the line premium
>> motherboard and clams to be "Vista ready" with stickers all over the
>> box, same claims in the manual. Works fine in XP Pro.
>>
>> What's going on?
>
>Thank you for bringing this to attention of the forum.
>Now, if you really would like this fixed, please report this issue to MS
>(using the bug report tool ).
>
>Regards,
>--PA

The issue seems more along the lines of Microsoft having another
Windows upgrade that ignores major vendor drivers, causing untold
grief for consumers. For those not familiar with the original
development of Windows which now goes back nearly 20 years, it is
rumored that the boys of Redmond orignally had a bunch of their geeks
jump in a pick-up truck, drive down to the local computer store and
literally buy every software package they could find... to see how
Windows would respond to them. This half-ass brute force backwards
testing lives on in Microsoft's present mindset of release, then
patch. Seen the whole version of Windows XP Service Pack 2? It is a
bloated 250MB! That's a patch? My God, that's laughable.

Everytime a new version of Windows is released it creates a whole new
set of problems in broken drivers, unfound bugs, moronic error
messages, nag screens, pointless pop up warnings and endless security
failures inviting malicious hackers to exploit Windows seemingly
endless backdoors and sloppy code, never found by Microsoft prior to
release, but discovered by end users.

This of course begs the question how Microsoft, the world's largest
software developer is able to keep cranking out one flawed version of
Windows after another and never seems to get around to addressing the
core issues that have lingered for decades which are Windows is a
crazy quilt hodgepodge, much of it poorly written, often not properly
tested, frequently unproven code created by a army of programmers,
none of which seem to have a clue what the others are working on that
is prone to slown down, then crash, sputter, spin, lock-up, groan and
sooner or later croak requiring a endless cycle of reinstalling and
patching.

If Microsoft made any other consumer product besides software, their
unbroken record of delivering half-baked, buggy, not yet ready
products would have caused them to go belly up long ago, having gotten
laughed out of business for being so constantly reckless and uncaring
for their customers whome they cause endless suffering trying to get
Windows to work as advertised.

This of course begs the question why we as consumers put up with the
high priced junk Microsoft keep cranking out.

> This of course begs the question why we as consumers put up with the
> high priced junk Microsoft keep cranking out.

Actually, Microsoft's success begs the question why, if your rant is
correct, are they the most successful software company in the world?

I would submit that software is problematic by nature, because humans are
problematic by nature. However, Microsoft software is less problematic
overall than any of the alternatives. If you do not agree, you are free to
buy competing software.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Software Composer
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

In case of Minimalism, break Philip Glass.

<Wiillie@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:00:02 -0800, Pavel A. <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"mad-windows user" wrote:
>>> Why is Microsoft always so damn anal everytime they release a new
>>> version of Windows?
>>>
> The issue seems more along the lines of Microsoft having another
> Windows upgrade that ignores major vendor drivers, causing untold
> grief for consumers. For those not familiar with the original
> development of Windows which now goes back nearly 20 years, it is
> rumored that the boys of Redmond orignally had a bunch of their geeks
<snip>
> This of course begs the question why we as consumers put up with the
> high priced junk Microsoft keep cranking out.
>