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  1. #1


    tomhyde2 Guest

    ATIKMDAG.SYS

    Problem with ATIKMDAG.SYS
    ATI Radeon Kernel mode driver
    Vista Beta 2, build 5384, Asus P5WD2-Prem, ATI-X1900XTX
    Anyone have a solution?

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  3. #2


    Howard Kelley Guest

    Re: Atikmdag.sys

    I believe the answer is...patience. This is a common problem and one waiting
    for a solution to a beta release.

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    =?Utf-8?B?bWF0YXN2eXRhdXRhcw==?= Guest

    RE: ATIKMDAG.SYS



    I have a problem with my RADEON caard also, maybe microsoft is partial to
    NVIDIA? Shame on you microsoft...


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    Laacagoia Guest

    Re: Atikmdag.sys

    Hi,
    I have the same problem as you with Catalyst 7.4, and I use Windows Vista
    Home Premium 32b with Peak Radeon X1950GT 512 MB GDD3.
    How have You resolved the problem?
    Thanks if you'll can help me.
    Best Regards
    snoopy

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    Lilo Lentz Guest
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  7. #6


    Laacagoia Guest

    Re: ATIKMDAG.SYS

    Thanks,
    I saw that there are many user with the same problem with atikmdag. Almost I
    can't config the thermal control of my video card, the Catalyst 7.4 on my
    system haven't the option VPU recover, ATI Overclock. I have probed to
    install ATITools and tried to configure some option but after the system
    crashed. I removed the ATITools.
    My system go well without ATi driver!!!! Wonderful but without 3d
    acceleration, aero, and glass effect. You know if one patch is still in
    progress to resolve these problem with ATi card?

    Thanks
    Best Regards.
    laacagoia

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  8. #7



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    Re: ATIKMDAG.SYS

    How to prevent “Driver failed to respond “Atikmdag.sys, but has recovered” message.
    First my systems specs:
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    DELL DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo E4500, 2200 MHz
    MB: Intel G33
    Ram: DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel 2 sticks at 1 gig each.
    PSU: 300 watts
    1 DVD drive
    1 Floppy
    2 SATA drives 500 – 200 gigs respectively
    GPU: ATI HD 2600 XT, 512mb
    Monitor: Dell E228WFP LCD Digital + Analog signals 22inch.
    System: Vista Premium 32bit
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    AMD Athlon 64 3200+ custom made.
    MB: Abit KN8
    Ram: DDR3 DIM 1 stick at 2 gigs.
    PSU: 450 watts
    1 DVD drive
    1 Floppy
    1 SATA drive 200 gigs
    1 IDE drive 100 gigs
    GPU: Nvidia BFG 8600 GT, 512mb
    Monitor: Gateway FPD1810 LCD Digital + Analog signals 19inch.
    System: XP Professional 32bit
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    After a couple of weeks battling this error type, from viewing over 55 or so forums, and over 1000s posts and trying out some of the following promising leads to fix this error:
    1. Downloading and installing ONLY the ATI driver software.
    2. Editing the registry.
    3. Removing a stick of ram.
    4. Trying a more powerful PSU.
    5. Removing and replacing devices one at a time such as hard drive, etc…
    6. Buying extra cooling fans.
    7. Throw the dam ATI card into the trash bin.
    Did all of the above, except the seventh one, was not ready to give up that easy!
    Most posts that I have read from the ATI (RED TEAM) that it was not there drivers causing this issue. In addition, Nvidia (GREEN TEAM) for some Nvidia users has posted similar responses. Their remedy to fix this problem was to remove one stick of ram, buy a new PSU, Buy a new motherboard, or ‘what the heck buy a completely new PC’ LOL!
    My Instructions are too long to post within this thread, therefore I created a link to my instructions for those who are having crashes after crashes and message pop ups, and cannot wait for ATI team members to come out of their holes and fix this issue.
    For those who are curious as to what my instructions did for me here are the before and after results:
    Before:
    On my average day of computer time, I would receive about 20 blue screens, 67 crashes, 111 ATIKMDAG.SYS message pop ups, all totaling up to 198 reboots.
    NOTE: Not including (Catalyts Control Center) software package.
    After:
    After doing my steps, I went from 20 blue screens down to zero, 67 crashes down to zero, 111 "ATIKMDAG.SYS" message pop ups down to zero, with a total of zero reboots.
    NOTE: Including (Catalyts Control Center) software package.
    I say “WHAT A DAM DIFFERENCE”.
    Your results will vary depending on your system, card, and driver versions you pick and use within my instructions.
    The instructions are found here: RapidShare: 1-Click Webhosting
    Note: I am keeping them up only for a week or two, therefore if you are curious whether you will benefit from my instructions I suggest you grab it before it is too late. You will also need Adobe Reader to view them, which you can download and install on your own.
    Assumption to the problem:
    The ATI kernel driver is crashing because one or more of its relative components are sending a false value sent by the video card, or by DirectX 9/10 interface, thereby causing the kernel to crash.
    This false value or data is sent after the signal of the LCD monitor has changed, or when initializing DirectX 9/10 interface components and or vice versa.
    It is not a Vista problem, or an XP problem, nor a hardware problem.
    Is it the drivers?
    You betcha it is!

    Conclusion to the problem:
    To the (ATI (RED TEAM)) and (Nvidia (GREEN TEAM )) I hope you will STOP cramming so much crap into these drivers just so you can save space and a little time and money. As you can see what I had to go through just to make these dam drivers work with my card. Instead of cramming all drivers for all the cards into one package, you should have special driver packages for a particular or similar card models. This also will save time in debugging hard problems such as this type, because you will not need to test every dam driver and or card model. A package such as this is not destined to fit all, PERIOD.
    I suggest both teams should look into this problem very deeply, instead of guiding customers to false theory such as buying a new powerful PSU. As you can see, my DELL has a 300-watt PSU throwing 22 amps at a +12 volt rating enough to run all my devices and more. This annoying error and crashes also occurred in an XP system using a 450 PSU, BAH!

    B.M

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    Re: ATIKMDAG.SYS

    Since my previous post, I have been helping coworkers, and neighbors in modifying their drivers.
    For those who have downloaded my instructions, and are still having trouble making them work, try the following modification combination:
    1. Download the 8.3 standalone driver package, and the full package 7.6 from the ATI site.
    2. When you have extracted both packages as in my instructions, instead of coping two files from the 7.6 package, we are going to copy all files EXCEPT the following:

    atikmdag.sy_

    3. Paste all files into the 8.3 directory.
    4. Now install the drivers as you would normally.
    Note: you can install the 7.6 (Catalyts Control Center) software package if the modification works for you.
    I have also tried this on my DELL and I am currently using it now, the difference with this modification is that both the games that I had previous mention had some minor issues, work fine now, however the game Crysis although runs normal, does not run as smooth as it did with the previous driver modification. But then again we cannot have it all.
    For those who have laptops, I did a few of them using the following packages:
    8.3 standalone driver package, and the old 7.4 package. Within the old, package 7.4 copy ONLY the following files into the 8.3 directory:
    atiumdag.dl_
    atiumdva.dl_
    This seems to work fine for the laptops I did.
    This is my last post; I hope some of you got those drivers to work, such as I did!
    I am going to take a vacation now, and give my computer a rest since it has been on for 3 weeks straight.
    I encourage anyone NOT to give up; you will find a modification that will work for you as I did, until ATI Team members get off their lazy F#&*!@ A%$#& and do something about it.
    Until then may the wind blow behind you always!
    B.M

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    Re: ATIKMDAG.SYS

    No ATIKMDAG.SYS message pop up driver packages:
    Ok folks I know I said this previously that it will be my last post, but there was something bothering me as to why some modifications of the drivers worked and others did not.

    After analyzing the driver packages, I came to the conclusion that the start of the ATI driver bug begins with the 7.6 drivers. Doing further study, I also realize that the old driver versions such as 7.3, 7.4 and 7.5 are the only drivers that are ATIKMDAG.SYS message free. I used one of my old ATI cards with the above packages and no crashes, blue screens and message pop ups occurred. However, I could not run some of my games because the card was too old.

    From this, I decided to convert a mixture of the 7.4, and 7.5 drivers into recognizing my card ATI HD 2600 XT PCI-EX and newer cards that the 8.3 driver package recognizes.

    The following are the results of these driver packages:
    7.4 driver package:
    1. Vista performance test pass.
    2. No crashes, blue screens and ATIKMDAG.SYS message pop ups.
    3. All games that I have previously mentioned in my instructions run good, except the BIA still crashes occasionally on to the desktop with a (General Protection Fault) message box.
    4. When un-installing the drivers as soon as the driver is removed, you will get a black screen, you then need to shutdown, or restart your computer.

    7.5 driver package:
    1. Vista performance test pass.
    2. No crashes, blue screens and ATIKMDAG.SYS message pop ups.
    3. All games that I have previously mentioned in my instructions run good, except the game Crysis slow as crap. However, this can change by setting medium and low graphic options.
    4. When un-installing the driver removes normally.

    Now for the driver package 7.4 mixed with 7.5 files:
    1. Vista performance test pass.
    2. No crashes, blue screens and ATIKMDAG.SYS message pop ups.
    3. All games that I have previously mentioned in my instructions run good, except Crysis still very slow in the introduction and main menu. I would need to repeatedly press the [ESC] key and left mouse button to pass the introduction and load my save game. Nevertheless, as soon as the game loads whoosh fast as hell.
    4. When un-installing the driver removes normally.

    Now I am not going to say that the driver packages are going to work with every card especially the newer cards. However, they do work with mine and with some old and newer cards. Also, note that these drivers are ONLY for Radeon type cards and no other type.

    I would like to also point out that since these are old driver versions, don’t expect to utilize the full graphics potential of your card, since they do not support special graphic operations that your card model may include.

    I cannot stress this enough, if you are not going to follow the directions in removing the current drivers you are using, DO NOT even bother to install these older driver packages. I got a call last night from a neighbor asking me as to why the 7.4 driver package crash her system. I said did you remove the driver’s accordingly to my instructions. She said, “Yes I used the Program and Features to remove them!” I said did you go into safe mode and used the driver cleaner to remove left over components? She said, “O, I forgot!” This is why you must remove them as stated in my instructions, because the setup program is not going to overwrite newer driver components already in your system. If you don’t you will have a mixture of the old and new driver components, which can crash your system or worse.

    For Vista 64-bit users I am sorry, I did not create such a package, since I am not using or ever going to use a 64-bit system again. I had my fills with these 64-bit systems and I feel the extra 16-bit processing power is not worth the headaches.
    For those who are new and have not downloaded my instructions they can be found here:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/105950403/ATI_Problem_Solved.pdf
    All must do the following steps as in my instructions before and after installing the driver packages:
    1. Do steps 1 – 9 to remove the drivers.
    2. Install the drivers.
    3. Then do steps 16 – 19.
    Note: I am not going to reply to any comments whether positive or negative, I did what I had to do in making my system run smooth until the ATI team members fix these issues in their new release.
    The driver packages, which are in WinRAR format, are located here:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/107305840/7-4_vista32_dd_ccc_enu_44985.rar
    http://rapidshare.com/files/107309981/7-5_vista32_dd_ccc_enu_46757.rar
    http://rapidshare.com/files/107319789/7-4_Mixed_with_7-5_vista32_dd_ccc_enu_44985.rar
    Realize that these old driver packages are only here for 15 days, and will be deleted after that, so get them while you can. Also, note you can install the (Catalyst Control Center) software package version 7.6 which you can download from here:
    Previous Catalyst™ Display Drivers for Windows Vista (32 bit)
    I have not tested the control center with driver package 7.4, so I do not know if it will work.
    Now I can rest!
    B.M

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    Re: ATIKMDAG.SYS

    No ATIKMDAG.SYS message pops up, Update:

    Ok folks I have just deleted the driver packages and my instructions on how to prevent the ATIKMDAG.SYS message pop ups.
    A new breaking solution has just dawn on me after reading the previous posts of these two members:
    CATALYSTCATCHER, and SilverDev a fellow programmer.

    As I stated in my first post and I will stick with it, is that I feel that the problem is related to the monitor signal and the card and drivers. I consider myself as an outcast compared to most of the posters in this thread, which posted similar symptoms.
    For me, my system would randomly and constantly crash along with the ATIKMDAG.SYS message. I could not and I repeat could not do anything with my system without crashing using the driver versions: 7.6 all the way up to the 8.3 drivers.
    If anyone is going to solve this problem, it is going to happen with a system as mine. Why? Because as a programmer when a program crashes just once in a while, it is hard to pinpoint the cause unless we actually stumble into the problem.
    If a program crashes sometimes, and then sometimes, constantly crashes, then we have a program that can be easily debugged to pinpoint the cause.
    Now you guessed it, my system!

    Here is the WONDERFUL BREAKING NEWS of my analysis:
    I am currently using the FULL package of the Catalyst 8.3 driver versions, that is right the FULL package mahahahahaha! Why am I laughing? Because I am so overjoyed with excitement!
    It has been now over 6hrs with no crashes, message pops ups, and guess what? I am able to play with all the following games with no crashes mamahahahahaa!
    First my major crashing game Unreal Tournament followed by Brothers and Arms and BIO Shock both also Unreal Engine game types, followed by Crysis, O yeah!, Medal of Honor Airborne, Medieval Total Wars, Need for Speed Blacklist, Need for speed Carbon, Call of Duty 4 and finally Tom Clancys Rainbow Six Los Vegas.
    I say, “Hit me Momma and wake me up!”

    Now I bet you are wondering what I did to get this result? Here is what I did, now mind you it is still in the testing mode, however since I managed to bring my system to actually use these drivers without having a dam crash, or pop up message, I believe it is a good clue into solving this annoying problem.

    1. Removed the drivers correctly accordingly to my previous post.
    2. Shutdown the Monitor and System.
    3. Disconnected the digital line from my Monitor and ATI card, leaving the Analog connected.
    4. Turn on the system, and booted into the BIOS, from within the BIOS I disabled the Multithreading
    feature.
    5. Booted into Vista, then within my LCD Monitor display OSD menu, I selected the DDC/CI option and selected the option Disabled. For those that do not know what DDC/CI is let us say that it allows or prevents any programs from changing the frequency signal of the monitor.
    6. Installed the drivers 8.3 full with control center.
    7. Rebooted my system.

    OH DAMMIT! BAH! I know it is going to crash, just seen the dam random dots on my desktop!
    Oh well must follow my debugging instructions; Let me run the Vista Performance test.
    CRASH! Well I knew this was going to happen, Ok reboot system!

    Back to the desktop, I go still random flashing dots!
    Ok now it is time to do something else!

    8. Double click the Catalyst control icon located at bottom right task bar.
    9. Selected (Advance) settings.
    10. In the control center (Monitor Properties), (Attribute) section I unchecked the (Use Extended Display Identification Data) box.

    Now the following step is where I notice some changes:
    11. In the Monitor (Adjustments) section I decided to place a check mark in the (Composite synic) box.

    As soon as I did that, my LCD display changed and was out of whack. Now I did this because I know that if anything is going to happen it either is going to be the same, better, or worse. I had nothing to lose.

    After that I rebooted my system to make the changes take affect.
    WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
    NO random dots appearing on my desktop? HMMM Seems as if I am getting somewhere.
    Ok time to adjust the monitor to reflect the change!
    Within my LCD Monitor I selected the AUTO ADJUST
    option. After a bit the monitor WALLA! Adjusted my display perfectly.

    Now hmmmm, this seems familiar, reminds me of the good old days using an Analog monitor!

    Ok! Now it is time for a reboot!
    Well folks after that reboot I have not seen one freaking little dot, dark line, and the Vista performance test pass like a grass over my A@#.
    There you go folks the start of a good chance of finding this no good, disgusting aggravating nuisance of a crappy bug!

    I will be posting later on when I make more changes, like setting the Multitasking On.
    I am not going to do anything now, because I am too happy to do anything, and besides I want to enjoy my games.
    B.M

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