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Old 06-11-2006   #1 (permalink)
pfister


 
 

NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??

Here is my error --
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8...adapter8rf.png
It says I have WDDM but its not working. The windows aero option doesnt
even show up.
Device Manager
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5858/display2tl.png
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7277/untitled7uz.png

Here are my system specs
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8653/specs7hn.png

Please help!
IF you have any questions ask away.



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-11-2006   #2 (permalink)
Roy Coorne


 
 

Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??

pfister wrote:
> Here is my error --
> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8...adapter8rf.png
> It says I have WDDM but its not working. The windows aero option doesnt
> even show up.
> Device Manager
> http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5858/display2tl.png
> http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7277/untitled7uz.png
>
> Here are my system specs
> http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8653/specs7hn.png
>
> Please help!
> IF you have any questions ask away.



Have you tried installing Vista with the FX5200, the on-board display
adapter having been de-activated in the BIOS?

Roy
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-11-2006   #3 (permalink)
Chris Hill


 
 

Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??

I recommend disabling your Intel graphics controller if possible
(perhaps in BIOS or with some kind of switch on the motherboard).

Vista (specifically the WDDM driver system) has a limitation that
prohibits more than one driver from being loaded at once. I ran into
the same situation with my ATI and NVIDIA cards, only one can be
active at once per-reboot (I choose which is the primary in BIOS, and
this is the only one that works). I confirmed this limitation with
Microsoft, and it is by design. There is also a limitation that you
can't run a WDDM driver and a non-WDDM driver simultaneously.

Hopefully you will be able to disable the Intel graphics controller.
If not, I suspect you won't be able to get your NVIDIA card to work.
If it doesn't work, provide feedback to Microsoft. At the very least,
I believe this problem requires a better description of the error.

I have not tried this myself, but according to the information I have
seen you may be able to use two non-WDDM drivers simultaneously (like
in XP). This may be particularly applicable to your situation, where
the Intel card may not have a WDDM driver. Try installing an XP
driver on Vista and see if that works for you. Of course you won't be
getting any benefits of WDDM.

I'm fairly disappointed with this limitation of Vista.

Chris
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-11-2006   #4 (permalink)
pfister


 
 

Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??



"Roy Coorne" wrote:

> pfister wrote:
> > Here is my error --
> > http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8...adapter8rf.png
> > It says I have WDDM but its not working. The windows aero option doesnt
> > even show up.
> > Device Manager
> > http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5858/display2tl.png
> > http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7277/untitled7uz.png
> >
> > Here are my system specs
> > http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8653/specs7hn.png
> >
> > Please help!
> > IF you have any questions ask away.

>
>
> Have you tried installing Vista with the FX5200, the on-board display
> adapter having been de-activated in the BIOS?
>
> Roy


Well, for some reason i can't see BIOS from the fx5200. if you know how to
enalbe it then i could try that.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-11-2006   #5 (permalink)
pfister


 
 

Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??



"Chris Hill" wrote:

> I recommend disabling your Intel graphics controller if possible
> (perhaps in BIOS or with some kind of switch on the motherboard).
>
> Vista (specifically the WDDM driver system) has a limitation that
> prohibits more than one driver from being loaded at once. I ran into
> the same situation with my ATI and NVIDIA cards, only one can be
> active at once per-reboot (I choose which is the primary in BIOS, and
> this is the only one that works). I confirmed this limitation with
> Microsoft, and it is by design. There is also a limitation that you
> can't run a WDDM driver and a non-WDDM driver simultaneously.
>
> Hopefully you will be able to disable the Intel graphics controller.
> If not, I suspect you won't be able to get your NVIDIA card to work.
> If it doesn't work, provide feedback to Microsoft. At the very least,
> I believe this problem requires a better description of the error.
>
> I have not tried this myself, but according to the information I have
> seen you may be able to use two non-WDDM drivers simultaneously (like
> in XP). This may be particularly applicable to your situation, where
> the Intel card may not have a WDDM driver. Try installing an XP
> driver on Vista and see if that works for you. Of course you won't be
> getting any benefits of WDDM.
>
> I'm fairly disappointed with this limitation of Vista.
>
> Chris



I tried putting the default graphics card as the PCI and no output signal
came. I will try again and see if i can disable the intel graphics card.
The only problem is..if i disable it and it doesnt go to the pci card then
how will i re enable the intel card since i wont have a screen?

I will try in BIOS and see.
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-11-2006   #6 (permalink)
Chris Hill


 
 

Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:08:01 -0700, =?Utf-8?B?cGZpc3Rlcg==?=
<pfister@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Chris Hill" wrote:
>
>> I recommend disabling your Intel graphics controller if possible
>> (perhaps in BIOS or with some kind of switch on the motherboard).
>>
>> Vista (specifically the WDDM driver system) has a limitation that
>> prohibits more than one driver from being loaded at once. I ran into
>> the same situation with my ATI and NVIDIA cards, only one can be
>> active at once per-reboot (I choose which is the primary in BIOS, and
>> this is the only one that works). I confirmed this limitation with
>> Microsoft, and it is by design. There is also a limitation that you
>> can't run a WDDM driver and a non-WDDM driver simultaneously.
>>
>> Hopefully you will be able to disable the Intel graphics controller.
>> If not, I suspect you won't be able to get your NVIDIA card to work.
>> If it doesn't work, provide feedback to Microsoft. At the very least,
>> I believe this problem requires a better description of the error.
>>
>> I have not tried this myself, but according to the information I have
>> seen you may be able to use two non-WDDM drivers simultaneously (like
>> in XP). This may be particularly applicable to your situation, where
>> the Intel card may not have a WDDM driver. Try installing an XP
>> driver on Vista and see if that works for you. Of course you won't be
>> getting any benefits of WDDM.
>>
>> I'm fairly disappointed with this limitation of Vista.
>>
>> Chris

>
>
>I tried putting the default graphics card as the PCI and no output signal
>came. I will try again and see if i can disable the intel graphics card.
>The only problem is..if i disable it and it doesnt go to the pci card then
>how will i re enable the intel card since i wont have a screen?
>
>I will try in BIOS and see.


You should be able to plug a monitor into the active graphics card
(either Intel onboard or the NVIDIA PCI) to see enough to change
settings back in BIOS. If there is no signal from both sources, I'm
not sure what you would do. I don't think that should happen though.
I would assume that the BIOS is smart enough to prevent the video from
going nowhere but I don't know anything about your machine
configuration.

You didn't mention what your original configuration was when you took
the screenshots. Was the monitor connected to the Intel? Do you have
one monitor or multiple monitors?

Chris
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-11-2006   #7 (permalink)
pfister


 
 

Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??



"Chris Hill" wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:08:01 -0700, =?Utf-8?B?cGZpc3Rlcg==?=
> <pfister@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chris Hill" wrote:
> >
> >> I recommend disabling your Intel graphics controller if possible
> >> (perhaps in BIOS or with some kind of switch on the motherboard).
> >>
> >> Vista (specifically the WDDM driver system) has a limitation that
> >> prohibits more than one driver from being loaded at once. I ran into
> >> the same situation with my ATI and NVIDIA cards, only one can be
> >> active at once per-reboot (I choose which is the primary in BIOS, and
> >> this is the only one that works). I confirmed this limitation with
> >> Microsoft, and it is by design. There is also a limitation that you
> >> can't run a WDDM driver and a non-WDDM driver simultaneously.
> >>
> >> Hopefully you will be able to disable the Intel graphics controller.
> >> If not, I suspect you won't be able to get your NVIDIA card to work.
> >> If it doesn't work, provide feedback to Microsoft. At the very least,
> >> I believe this problem requires a better description of the error.
> >>
> >> I have not tried this myself, but according to the information I have
> >> seen you may be able to use two non-WDDM drivers simultaneously (like
> >> in XP). This may be particularly applicable to your situation, where
> >> the Intel card may not have a WDDM driver. Try installing an XP
> >> driver on Vista and see if that works for you. Of course you won't be
> >> getting any benefits of WDDM.
> >>
> >> I'm fairly disappointed with this limitation of Vista.
> >>
> >> Chris

> >
> >
> >I tried putting the default graphics card as the PCI and no output signal
> >came. I will try again and see if i can disable the intel graphics card.
> >The only problem is..if i disable it and it doesnt go to the pci card then
> >how will i re enable the intel card since i wont have a screen?
> >
> >I will try in BIOS and see.

>
> You should be able to plug a monitor into the active graphics card
> (either Intel onboard or the NVIDIA PCI) to see enough to change
> settings back in BIOS. If there is no signal from both sources, I'm
> not sure what you would do. I don't think that should happen though.
> I would assume that the BIOS is smart enough to prevent the video from
> going nowhere but I don't know anything about your machine
> configuration.
>
> You didn't mention what your original configuration was when you took
> the screenshots. Was the monitor connected to the Intel? Do you have
> one monitor or multiple monitors?
>
> Chris
>


Ok I went into BIOS and set the PCI as the default. The screen was black
for about 45 seconds (so it was probably booting) then I pressed control alt
delete and the logon screen appeared. I'm now on the GeForce FX 5200 card

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4162/switch3wa.png

The other card was disabled, as you said there was a conflict in having to
drivers at the same time. I am now using windows aero!!

Thanks a lot,
michael
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-14-2006   #8 (permalink)
digitalexplr


 
 

Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 not compatible with VGA??

Glad you got that worked out. I knew it had to work since I'm running Vista
on an FX5200 and have had no problems.

"pfister" wrote:

>
>
> "Chris Hill" wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:08:01 -0700, =?Utf-8?B?cGZpc3Rlcg==?=
> > <pfister@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Chris Hill" wrote:
> > >
> > >> I recommend disabling your Intel graphics controller if possible
> > >> (perhaps in BIOS or with some kind of switch on the motherboard).
> > >>
> > >> Vista (specifically the WDDM driver system) has a limitation that
> > >> prohibits more than one driver from being loaded at once. I ran into
> > >> the same situation with my ATI and NVIDIA cards, only one can be
> > >> active at once per-reboot (I choose which is the primary in BIOS, and
> > >> this is the only one that works). I confirmed this limitation with
> > >> Microsoft, and it is by design. There is also a limitation that you
> > >> can't run a WDDM driver and a non-WDDM driver simultaneously.
> > >>
> > >> Hopefully you will be able to disable the Intel graphics controller.
> > >> If not, I suspect you won't be able to get your NVIDIA card to work.
> > >> If it doesn't work, provide feedback to Microsoft. At the very least,
> > >> I believe this problem requires a better description of the error.
> > >>
> > >> I have not tried this myself, but according to the information I have
> > >> seen you may be able to use two non-WDDM drivers simultaneously (like
> > >> in XP). This may be particularly applicable to your situation, where
> > >> the Intel card may not have a WDDM driver. Try installing an XP
> > >> driver on Vista and see if that works for you. Of course you won't be
> > >> getting any benefits of WDDM.
> > >>
> > >> I'm fairly disappointed with this limitation of Vista.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >I tried putting the default graphics card as the PCI and no output signal
> > >came. I will try again and see if i can disable the intel graphics card.
> > >The only problem is..if i disable it and it doesnt go to the pci card then
> > >how will i re enable the intel card since i wont have a screen?
> > >
> > >I will try in BIOS and see.

> >
> > You should be able to plug a monitor into the active graphics card
> > (either Intel onboard or the NVIDIA PCI) to see enough to change
> > settings back in BIOS. If there is no signal from both sources, I'm
> > not sure what you would do. I don't think that should happen though.
> > I would assume that the BIOS is smart enough to prevent the video from
> > going nowhere but I don't know anything about your machine
> > configuration.
> >
> > You didn't mention what your original configuration was when you took
> > the screenshots. Was the monitor connected to the Intel? Do you have
> > one monitor or multiple monitors?
> >
> > Chris
> >

>
> Ok I went into BIOS and set the PCI as the default. The screen was black
> for about 45 seconds (so it was probably booting) then I pressed control alt
> delete and the logon screen appeared. I'm now on the GeForce FX 5200 card
>
> http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4162/switch3wa.png
>
> The other card was disabled, as you said there was a conflict in having to
> drivers at the same time. I am now using windows aero!!
>
> Thanks a lot,
> michael

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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