Vista - AMD 3200+ not stepping, stuck at 800 Mhz

Hello,
Hope you can help. I've installed beta 2 on an AMILO A1630 (sadistic, I know).
Everything looks fine except the performance when plugged into the mains
power.
I'd expect it to be throttling during 3d intensive use, with power settings
set to performance (plugged in) where juice is not an issue.
I can here the fans kicking into high gear but performance and real time
monitoring confirms it to stay at 798. Since this is minimum spec for Vista,
it would be nice to hover above 800mhz especially when my cpu is capable of
2ghz. I don't mind running a little hot, it does anyway.
Things I've done so far:
- installed latest Vista beta drivers from ATI (no change either with or
without so not the culprit)
- removed CPU driver, ACPI battery and controller drivers from device
manager, nada.
- tried installing cool and quiet from AMD, no joy, wrong OS. Same with 64
bit driver for XP.

In XP it was quickly on demand when I needed the power. I can't get it to
budge now. I'm not at home atm but I seem to remember seeing one of the
frequency steps was 'not defined'.
Any ideas are appreciated (except for upgrading the bios- Fujitsu-Siemens
abandoned us 2 years ago).
Thank you.

Where do you see CPU Mhz?

On my system, the utility AMDClock.exe (from www.amd.com) always shows full
speed, 2200 Mhz.

I haven't found a way to get it to throttle down.

"s t e w d o g" <stewdog@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B27263E1-EA00-4ED8-B0A1-F0A79E8699B2@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
> Hope you can help. I've installed beta 2 on an AMILO A1630 (sadistic, I
> know).
> Everything looks fine except the performance when plugged into the mains
> power.
> I'd expect it to be throttling during 3d intensive use, with power
> settings
> set to performance (plugged in) where juice is not an issue.
> I can here the fans kicking into high gear but performance and real time
> monitoring confirms it to stay at 798. Since this is minimum spec for
> Vista,
> it would be nice to hover above 800mhz especially when my cpu is capable
> of
> 2ghz. I don't mind running a little hot, it does anyway.
> Things I've done so far:
> - installed latest Vista beta drivers from ATI (no change either with or
> without so not the culprit)
> - removed CPU driver, ACPI battery and controller drivers from device
> manager, nada.
> - tried installing cool and quiet from AMD, no joy, wrong OS. Same with 64
> bit driver for XP.
>
> In XP it was quickly on demand when I needed the power. I can't get it to
> budge now. I'm not at home atm but I seem to remember seeing one of the
> frequency steps was 'not defined'.
> Any ideas are appreciated (except for upgrading the bios- Fujitsu-Siemens
> abandoned us 2 years ago).
> Thank you.
>

You must adjust your power scheme.

Bobby

turn off "CPU throttling" in bios

turn off Cool-n-Quiet

manually set CPU multiplier to 10x insted of auto

Yes, using AMDClock as well as system properties. Still reading 798Mhz.
Again, the power plan is set to performance and plugged in. The power scheme
is 'always on'. Not sure if this will help but here are my processor power
states:
Current power state:
D0

Power capabilities:
00000009
PDCAP_D0_SUPPORTED
PDCAP_D3_SUPPORTED

Power state mappings:
S0 -> D0
S1 -> Unspecified
S2 -> Unspecified
S3 -> D3
S4 -> D3
S5 -> D3


"s t e w d o g" wrote:

> Hello,
> Hope you can help. I've installed beta 2 on an AMILO A1630 (sadistic, I know).
> Everything looks fine except the performance when plugged into the mains
> power.
> I'd expect it to be throttling during 3d intensive use, with power settings
> set to performance (plugged in) where juice is not an issue.
> I can here the fans kicking into high gear but performance and real time
> monitoring confirms it to stay at 798. Since this is minimum spec for Vista,
> it would be nice to hover above 800mhz especially when my cpu is capable of
> 2ghz. I don't mind running a little hot, it does anyway.
> Things I've done so far:
> - installed latest Vista beta drivers from ATI (no change either with or
> without so not the culprit)
> - removed CPU driver, ACPI battery and controller drivers from device
> manager, nada.
> - tried installing cool and quiet from AMD, no joy, wrong OS. Same with 64
> bit driver for XP.
>
> In XP it was quickly on demand when I needed the power. I can't get it to
> budge now. I'm not at home atm but I seem to remember seeing one of the
> frequency steps was 'not defined'.
> Any ideas are appreciated (except for upgrading the bios- Fujitsu-Siemens
> abandoned us 2 years ago).
> Thank you.
>

Many thanks for everyone's help.
I only wish it were that easy. This blankity bios pretty much lets you set a
bios password and sort your boot priority. That's it
I think Cool and quiet is history or at least integrated into Vista. I
thought I read somewhere that AMD and MS developed the processor driver
together so I don't even know if it exists. I couldn't install the ones
available from amd.com. I'd like stepping especially since I'm not always
playing a game. Dual booting with XP as well which works properly so not an
option to manual set I'm afraid.
I guess I should just wait. be patient and wait.

"hawkeyefan" wrote:

>
> turn off "CPU throttling" in bios
>
> turn off Cool-n-Quiet
>
> manually set CPU multiplier to 10x insted of auto
>
>
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No suggestetions from me - stuck in the same boat

Also installed Vista alongside my XP and Linux on my Amilo A1630 (3200+);
WindowsXP scaling works fine (800-2000MHz)
Linux same
Windows Vista stuck at 800MHz (High Performance powerplan) no matter the
stress put at the CPU.
(and that goes for both 32bit and 64bit Vista)

Any clues anyone?

TIA

Just a follow up on my issue.
I think I've sorted my problem with Amilo A1630 w/ 3200+ and not getting
past the 800 Mhz mark. I am not saying it is a fix but it has worked for me.
I updated the Fujitsu/AMI BIOS to the reference Uniwill BIOS 1.05. I did not
breathe the entire process but lo and behold, into Vista and we have
performance!
Went from a 1 rating to a whoppin' 3! (yes, I know....)
I was previously using Fujitsu-Siemens BIOS 1.03c. Never needed to update it
really. They have released a 1.04 and I should have tried that first but went
to the Uniwill site and downloaded the 1.05 BIOS from
http://www.uniwill.com/UserDownload/258KA0/258KA0.php because I hate Fujitsu.

A note to "I told you so'ers", there are STILL no useful options with these
BIOS ROMs and there are still no settings within to enable Cool n Quiet or
Turbo or whatever has to do with the proc. I reckon something sneaked it's
way in.

Another word of warning. This flash caused all of my hardware to have to be
reinstalled. XP spat me back out so tried Vista and it handled it all for me
nicely. Oh, and these laptops do not come with legacy floppy drives but you
can always boot to memory key and do the flash.

Hope this helps someone. Please remember though, I half expected the
notebook to catch alight at anytime, that's how daring I felt. Don't do it if
you don't mind waiting!

Oh and did I warn you not to do it?

I'm headed back into XP now, see if I can get working again. Checks and
balances.
He who dares. Good luck!


"s t e w d o g" wrote:

> Hello,
> Hope you can help. I've installed beta 2 on an AMILO A1630 (sadistic, I know).
> Everything looks fine except the performance when plugged into the mains
> power.
> I'd expect it to be throttling during 3d intensive use, with power settings
> set to performance (plugged in) where juice is not an issue.
> I can here the fans kicking into high gear but performance and real time
> monitoring confirms it to stay at 798. Since this is minimum spec for Vista,
> it would be nice to hover above 800mhz especially when my cpu is capable of
> 2ghz. I don't mind running a little hot, it does anyway.
> Things I've done so far:
> - installed latest Vista beta drivers from ATI (no change either with or
> without so not the culprit)
> - removed CPU driver, ACPI battery and controller drivers from device
> manager, nada.
> - tried installing cool and quiet from AMD, no joy, wrong OS. Same with 64
> bit driver for XP.
>
> In XP it was quickly on demand when I needed the power. I can't get it to
> budge now. I'm not at home atm but I seem to remember seeing one of the
> frequency steps was 'not defined'.
> Any ideas are appreciated (except for upgrading the bios- Fujitsu-Siemens
> abandoned us 2 years ago).
> Thank you.
>

Surprisingly, this problem is frequently solved by removing and re-inserting the battery of the laptop. Give it a try!