Vista - Booting:

Cloned my Hard Drive C: using Acronis to another Hard Drive F: then went into
BIOS to change over to F: Drive. Rebooted and checked in My Computer to see
that it had changed to F: it was still on C: Drive. Re-checked BIOS to make
sure that it was in order, Okay. Went into Disc Management to take a look and
found: 0 (C 111.79 GB NTFS. Healthy (BootPage File, Active, Crash Dump,
Primary Partition).
1 (F 232.88 GB NTFS. Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition). Not
being familiar with having 2 drives on the same computer I wondered it this
is what should have been shown for a similar system. Using Vista Ultimate.
--
ADH

ADH,

This link has some information, I think:

http://www.multibooters.co.uk/cloning.html

Vista expects the boot drive to be the C drive, and that's the problem.
--
freddy


"ADH" wrote:

> Cloned my Hard Drive C: using Acronis to another Hard Drive F: then went into
> BIOS to change over to F: Drive. Rebooted and checked in My Computer to see
> that it had changed to F: it was still on C: Drive. Re-checked BIOS to make
> sure that it was in order, Okay. Went into Disc Management to take a look and
> found: 0 (C 111.79 GB NTFS. Healthy (BootPage File, Active, Crash Dump,
> Primary Partition).
> 1 (F 232.88 GB NTFS. Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition). Not
> being familiar with having 2 drives on the same computer I wondered it this
> is what should have been shown for a similar system. Using Vista Ultimate.
> --
> ADH

It will probably fix the problem but I dont think I have the expertise to
carry it out. Will have to see if there other alternatives. Thanks.
--
ADH


"freddy" wrote:

> ADH,
>
> This link has some information, I think:
>
> http://www.multibooters.co.uk/cloning.html
>
> Vista expects the boot drive to be the C drive, and that's the problem.
> --
> freddy
>
>
> "ADH" wrote:
>
> > Cloned my Hard Drive C: using Acronis to another Hard Drive F: then went into
> > BIOS to change over to F: Drive. Rebooted and checked in My Computer to see
> > that it had changed to F: it was still on C: Drive. Re-checked BIOS to make
> > sure that it was in order, Okay. Went into Disc Management to take a look and
> > found: 0 (C 111.79 GB NTFS. Healthy (BootPage File, Active, Crash Dump,
> > Primary Partition).
> > 1 (F 232.88 GB NTFS. Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition). Not
> > being familiar with having 2 drives on the same computer I wondered it this
> > is what should have been shown for a similar system. Using Vista Ultimate.
> > --
> > ADH

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:40:01 -0700, ADH
<ADH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Cloned my Hard Drive C: using Acronis to another Hard Drive F: then went into
>BIOS to change over to F: Drive. Rebooted and checked in My Computer to see
>that it had changed to F: it was still on C: Drive. Re-checked BIOS to make
>sure that it was in order, Okay. Went into Disc Management to take a look and
>found: 0 (C 111.79 GB NTFS. Healthy (BootPage File, Active, Crash Dump,
>Primary Partition).
Since the partition is identified as Boot, the 111GB drive contains
the files of the currently running operating system.

>1 (F 232.88 GB NTFS. Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition). Not
>being familiar with having 2 drives on the same computer I wondered it this
>is what should have been shown for a similar system. Using Vista Ultimate.
Since the partition is identified as System, the 232GB drive contains
the boot manager files, and is the drive from which the BIOS booted
the operating system.

Assuming that the 232GB drive is the clone, I would expect it to
contain both the Boot and System partitions.

A clone should look and behave exactly like the drive that it was
cloned from, i.e., the drive letter assignments should not change. In
this case, the drive letter F should disappear, since the clone
replaced that drive, and the old drive C should change to something
else. The way to achieve this is the disconnect the 111GB drive after
it is cloned, and before you boot from the clone drive.

Will clone the drive again and disconnect the 111 GB Drive before I startup
again, will get back with the results. Thanks.
--
ADH


"andy" wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:40:01 -0700, ADH
> <ADH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Cloned my Hard Drive C: using Acronis to another Hard Drive F: then went into
> >BIOS to change over to F: Drive. Rebooted and checked in My Computer to see
> >that it had changed to F: it was still on C: Drive. Re-checked BIOS to make
> >sure that it was in order, Okay. Went into Disc Management to take a look and
> >found: 0 (C 111.79 GB NTFS. Healthy (BootPage File, Active, Crash Dump,
> >Primary Partition).
> Since the partition is identified as Boot, the 111GB drive contains
> the files of the currently running operating system.
>
> >1 (F 232.88 GB NTFS. Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition). Not
> >being familiar with having 2 drives on the same computer I wondered it this
> >is what should have been shown for a similar system. Using Vista Ultimate.
> Since the partition is identified as System, the 232GB drive contains
> the boot manager files, and is the drive from which the BIOS booted
> the operating system.
>
> Assuming that the 232GB drive is the clone, I would expect it to
> contain both the Boot and System partitions.
>
> A clone should look and behave exactly like the drive that it was
> cloned from, i.e., the drive letter assignments should not change. In
> this case, the drive letter F should disappear, since the clone
> replaced that drive, and the old drive C should change to something
> else. The way to achieve this is the disconnect the 111GB drive after
> it is cloned, and before you boot from the clone drive.
>

After Cloning the drive again I disconnected the 111 GB drive and re-started.
Got he following message:
Windows Boot Manager
Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the
cause. To fix the problem:
1 Install your Windows installation disc and restart your computer.
2 Change language settings, and then click next. 3 Click "Repair Your
Computer." File :\Winload.exe Status ox000000e
Info. The selected entry could not be loaded because the application is
missing or corrupt.
Continue.
After clicking continue I got: Windows Boot manager: Windows Ultimate
(Recovered) To choose and advanced option press F8 Tools. Windows Memory
Diagnostics. Enter. I am then directed back to the first step. The only way
that I can reboot is to connect the drive that I cloned from.
--
ADH


"ADH" wrote:

> Will clone the drive again and disconnect the 111 GB Drive before I startup
> again, will get back with the results. Thanks.
> --
> ADH
>
>
> "andy" wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:40:01 -0700, ADH
> > <ADH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Cloned my Hard Drive C: using Acronis to another Hard Drive F: then went into
> > >BIOS to change over to F: Drive. Rebooted and checked in My Computer to see
> > >that it had changed to F: it was still on C: Drive. Re-checked BIOS to make
> > >sure that it was in order, Okay. Went into Disc Management to take a look and
> > >found: 0 (C 111.79 GB NTFS. Healthy (BootPage File, Active, Crash Dump,
> > >Primary Partition).
> > Since the partition is identified as Boot, the 111GB drive contains
> > the files of the currently running operating system.
> >
> > >1 (F 232.88 GB NTFS. Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition). Not
> > >being familiar with having 2 drives on the same computer I wondered it this
> > >is what should have been shown for a similar system. Using Vista Ultimate.
> > Since the partition is identified as System, the 232GB drive contains
> > the boot manager files, and is the drive from which the BIOS booted
> > the operating system.
> >
> > Assuming that the 232GB drive is the clone, I would expect it to
> > contain both the Boot and System partitions.
> >
> > A clone should look and behave exactly like the drive that it was
> > cloned from, i.e., the drive letter assignments should not change. In
> > this case, the drive letter F should disappear, since the clone
> > replaced that drive, and the old drive C should change to something
> > else. The way to achieve this is the disconnect the 111GB drive after
> > it is cloned, and before you boot from the clone drive.
> >

Boot from the Vista DVD and select the repair option (on the Install
screen) to fix the boot file(s) on the clone drive.
The problem with the Acronis 10 clone operation is what works for
cloning Windows XP does not work for Vista.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:44:01 -0700, ADH
<ADH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>After Cloning the drive again I disconnected the 111 GB drive and re-started.
>Got he following message:
>Windows Boot Manager
>Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the
>cause. To fix the problem:
>1 Install your Windows installation disc and restart your computer.
>2 Change language settings, and then click next. 3 Click "Repair Your
>Computer." File :\Winload.exe Status ox000000e
>Info. The selected entry could not be loaded because the application is
>missing or corrupt.
>Continue.
>After clicking continue I got: Windows Boot manager: Windows Ultimate
>(Recovered) To choose and advanced option press F8 Tools. Windows Memory
>Diagnostics. Enter. I am then directed back to the first step. The only way
>that I can reboot is to connect the drive that I cloned from.

Did as you suggested and it worked. If I put my other drive back into the
system again then it reverts to back to the smaller drive again. Will have to
leave it disconnected untill I want to clone again. Thanks.
--
ADH


"andy" wrote:

> Boot from the Vista DVD and select the repair option (on the Install
> screen) to fix the boot file(s) on the clone drive.
> The problem with the Acronis 10 clone operation is what works for
> cloning Windows XP does not work for Vista.
>
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:44:01 -0700, ADH
> <ADH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >After Cloning the drive again I disconnected the 111 GB drive and re-started.
> >Got he following message:
> >Windows Boot Manager
> >Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the
> >cause. To fix the problem:
> >1 Install your Windows installation disc and restart your computer.
> >2 Change language settings, and then click next. 3 Click "Repair Your
> >Computer." File :\Winload.exe Status ox000000e
> >Info. The selected entry could not be loaded because the application is
> >missing or corrupt.
> >Continue.
> >After clicking continue I got: Windows Boot manager: Windows Ultimate
> >(Recovered) To choose and advanced option press F8 Tools. Windows Memory
> >Diagnostics. Enter. I am then directed back to the first step. The only way
> >that I can reboot is to connect the drive that I cloned from.
>
>

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:14:04 -0700, ADH
<ADH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Did as you suggested and it worked. If I put my other drive back into the
>system again then it reverts to back to the smaller drive again. Will have to
>leave it disconnected untill I want to clone again. Thanks.

In order for the clone disk to boot independently, its disk signature
has to be reset to that of the original disk, which the Vista repair
does. However, Windows doesn't like running with two disks having
identical disk signatures, so it changes the duplicate, which renders
it unbootable. With Windows XP it's easy to change the disk signature
of the clone and make it bootable. Not so with Vista.