Vista - XP Boot Loader

Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really
put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will
think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot
SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using
bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find
any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot
loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

XP used "Boot.ini" for dual booting - Vista does not - Vista uses "BCD" (you
will see references to BCDEDIT.EXE - this is an editor for creating,
modifying, changing default OS, etc. BCD) Bcdedit.exe is a command line
editor - typing "bcdedit.exe /?" at prompt provides info on modifying Vista
boot manager.

"r_vandewater" <r_vandewater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97C46D4E-EEB2-4D0D-8E57-C9571A6AB560@microsoft.com...
> Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't
> really
> put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you
> will
> think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to
> dual-boot
> SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using
> bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to
> find
> any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot
> loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

"r_vandewater" <r_vandewater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97C46D4E-EEB2-4D0D-8E57-C9571A6AB560@microsoft.com...
> Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really
> put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will
> think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot
> SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using
> bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find
> any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot
> loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!


Nice price- free.

Can be run from XP or Vista.

http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/index.php
VistaBootPRO

strange, never heard of anyone using a boot loader for windows/suse other
then grub. At one time i was running a quad boot between windows
xp/win2k/suse/ubuntu.

"MICHAEL" wrote:

> "r_vandewater" <r_vandewater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:97C46D4E-EEB2-4D0D-8E57-C9571A6AB560@microsoft.com...
> > Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really
> > put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will
> > think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot
> > SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using
> > bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find
> > any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot
> > loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>
>
> Nice price- free.
>
> Can be run from XP or Vista.
>
> http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/index.php
> VistaBootPRO
>
>

It's not a bootloader- it is an editor for Vista's bootloader with a GUI
that is easier for many to use and understand.


-Michael

"dfeifer" <dfeifer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA170174-05C5-44E0-9BC5-034D280A0046@microsoft.com...
> strange, never heard of anyone using a boot loader for windows/suse other
> then grub. At one time i was running a quad boot between windows
> xp/win2k/suse/ubuntu.
>
> "MICHAEL" wrote:
>
>> "r_vandewater" <r_vandewater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:97C46D4E-EEB2-4D0D-8E57-C9571A6AB560@microsoft.com...
>> > Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really
>> > put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will
>> > think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot
>> > SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using
>> > bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find
>> > any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot
>> > loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Nice price- free.
>>
>> Can be run from XP or Vista.
>>
>> http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/index.php
>> VistaBootPRO
>>
>>

Ok so being as thought nobody has actually answered my question, I'll try and
rephrase:Can you dual-boot XP and Vista from NTLDR? I found this post that
says you can, but the instructions are alittle vague in one spot.
https://www.cs-club.org/forum/viewto...246fb036b4037e
By the way, Bootpart, the program I was talking about, takes the first 512k
of a partition, which stores the boot data, puts that information in a file
thats saved on your windows partition, and updates the boot.ini to point to
that file.

Now that we are all confused, understand that dual boots should have XP on
the first partition, and Vista on the second. Vista does not use ntldr, but
winload which is in the windows\system32 file. The loader for your system,
then, is Vista whether you 'like it' or not. The easiest way to change
bcdedit (the operative file in Winload is to get Vistaboot, which will do
everything but cook your lunch and its free. Then your desktop on boot will
show both OSs and you can choose or determine which OS to boot, obviously XP
in your case. Simple.

"r_vandewater" wrote:

> Ok so being as thought nobody has actually answered my question, I'll try and
> rephrase:Can you dual-boot XP and Vista from NTLDR? I found this post that
> says you can, but the instructions are alittle vague in one spot.
> https://www.cs-club.org/forum/viewto...246fb036b4037e
> By the way, Bootpart, the program I was talking about, takes the first 512k
> of a partition, which stores the boot data, puts that information in a file
> thats saved on your windows partition, and updates the boot.ini to point to
> that file.

Ok is ti possible to get ride of Windows XP all together now that Vista is
loaded? I am cramped on HD Space, and short of just reinstalling Vista is
there any other way to get XP off. Not only that, since I installed vista and
used the serial key and registerd will it let me redo the who process over
again?



"JackM" wrote:

> Now that we are all confused, understand that dual boots should have XP on
> the first partition, and Vista on the second. Vista does not use ntldr, but
> winload which is in the windows\system32 file. The loader for your system,
> then, is Vista whether you 'like it' or not. The easiest way to change
> bcdedit (the operative file in Winload is to get Vistaboot, which will do
> everything but cook your lunch and its free. Then your desktop on boot will
> show both OSs and you can choose or determine which OS to boot, obviously XP
> in your case. Simple.
>
> "r_vandewater" wrote:
>
> > Ok so being as thought nobody has actually answered my question, I'll try and
> > rephrase:Can you dual-boot XP and Vista from NTLDR? I found this post that
> > says you can, but the instructions are alittle vague in one spot.
> > https://www.cs-club.org/forum/viewto...246fb036b4037e
> > By the way, Bootpart, the program I was talking about, takes the first 512k
> > of a partition, which stores the boot data, puts that information in a file
> > thats saved on your windows partition, and updates the boot.ini to point to
> > that file.