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| | Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive Hi, I'm about to replace my motherboard, memory, video card etc, but not my hard drive on a Vista PC. Ideally I'd like to just rebuild the machine and plug in the old drive and click repair (aka Win XP) but is this possible in Vista? I've got a number of VPCs set up on the drive and I'd really like to avoid the pain of downloading and a reinstalling them all again. Thanks John |
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| XP, Linux x64, Vista x64 | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive 'click repair'? generally an OS that is installed on a driver won't like a new hardware upgrade and you`ll get lots of exciting bluescreens of death etc. I would suggest renaming your vista folders and installing afresh (not formatting) and then copy the virtual drivers over from your previous installation. |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive "John" <John74211@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23STl4RTGIHA.4296@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, > > I'm about to replace my motherboard, memory, video card etc, but not my > hard drive on a Vista PC. Ideally I'd like to just rebuild the machine > and plug in the old drive and click repair (aka Win XP) but is this > possible in Vista? > > I've got a number of VPCs set up on the drive and I'd really like to avoid > the pain of downloading and a reinstalling them all again. motherboard. If you're having to repair then it means you have left Windows set to boot using incompatible storage controller drivers. In future, before you swap out the motherboard, go into Device Manage -> IDE / ATAPI Controllers, and double click the controller in there and go to update driver -> do not search -> manually select driver from a list, and change to "Standard whatever". You do not need/want to do anything with the child-devices ("Primary Channel", "Secondary Channel") - leave these alone, it's the parent device - the controller, that needs it's driver reverting to a more generic one. So you are changing it from VIA 8237x Ultra ATA, or SiS Integrated IDE, or Intel 8201 whatever, to "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE", or "Standard Hard Disk Controller" or whatever. This gives you a pretty good chance that it'll boot up just fine with the new motherboard, although there are some exceptions. Sometimes you need to load the drivers up as RAID drivers which is a bit more involved. Procedure should probably be the same for Vista, unless they've altered things so that it's not necessary any more (i.e. falling back to a generic driver when the configured driver fails). |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive John wrote: Quote: > Hi, > > I'm about to replace my motherboard, memory, video card etc, but not my hard > drive on a Vista PC. Ideally I'd like to just rebuild the machine and plug > in the old drive and click repair (aka Win XP) but is this possible in > Vista? > > I've got a number of VPCs set up on the drive and I'd really like to avoid > the pain of downloading and a reinstalling them all again. > > Thanks > > John > > Sadly, Vista lacks the repair (in-place upgrade) capabilities of WinXP. You can try, but you may end up performing a clean installation, anyway. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive Carl Farrington wrote: Quote: > Quote: > > Most of the time it is unnecessary to do a repair after swapping > motherboard. and WinXP almoist always require at least a repair installation upon the change of the motherboard. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eGQ8ynXGIHA.4476@xxxxxx Quote: > Carl Farrington wrote: Quote: >> Quote: >> >> Most of the time it is unnecessary to do a repair after swapping >> motherboard. > Sorry, but things have changed a lot since Win9X and WinNT. Both Win2K > and WinXP almoist always require at least a repair installation upon the > change of the motherboard. and have done it hundreds of times. Doesn't the message "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE" suggest anything to you? |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive Carl Farrington wrote: Quote: > > "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:eGQ8ynXGIHA.4476@xxxxxx Quote: >> Carl Farrington wrote: Quote: >>> Quote: >>> >>> Most of the time it is unnecessary to do a repair after swapping >>> motherboard. >> Sorry, but things have changed a lot since Win9X and WinNT. Both >> Win2K and WinXP almoist always require at least a repair installation >> upon the change of the motherboard. > The process I was referring to was for Windows XP. I know what I am > doing and have done it hundreds of times. Doesn't the message > "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE" suggest anything to you? Sure, but the storage device controllers are just a small portion of a modern motherboard's components. Your technique may well allow WinXP to boot on the new motherboard, but it won't result in a stable installation. Many more drivers need to be replaced, hence the preference for a repair installation by experienced technicians. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23OIMlqZGIHA.4684@xxxxxx Quote: > Carl Farrington wrote: Quote: >> >> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:eGQ8ynXGIHA.4476@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Carl Farrington wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> Most of the time it is unnecessary to do a repair after swapping >>>> motherboard. >>> >>> Sorry, but things have changed a lot since Win9X and WinNT. Both Win2K >>> and WinXP almoist always require at least a repair installation upon the >>> change of the motherboard. >> The process I was referring to was for Windows XP. I know what I am doing >> and have done it hundreds of times. Doesn't the message >> "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE" suggest anything to you? > > Sure, but the storage device controllers are just a small portion of a > modern motherboard's components. Your technique may well allow WinXP to > boot on the new motherboard, but it won't result in a stable installation. > Many more drivers need to be replaced, hence the preference for a repair > installation by experienced technicians. the architectures aren't light years apart. It doens't fix mismatched HALs, e.g. if moving from a non-ACPI machine, you'll still have no ACPI after swapping to a newer board, but this is rarely a problem anyway. A more common problem is motherboards failing due to bad capacitors, and same-brand-chipset motherboards not being available. The only thing to be aware of is if moving from an IDE or (IDE-emulated SATA) system to an AHCI system you would want to change to the manufacturers AHCI driver rather than to Microsoft's Standard PCI IDE driver. I'm afraid the preference is down to ignorance, not experience. |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive BS! It works 50% of the time on XP. But, it also causes an unstable OS, as the orginal hardware Drivers are still installed. Listen to other people's experience cockhead! "Carl Farrington" wrote: Quote: > > "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23OIMlqZGIHA.4684@xxxxxx Quote: > > Carl Farrington wrote: Quote: > >> > >> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:eGQ8ynXGIHA.4476@xxxxxx > >>> Carl Farrington wrote: > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Most of the time it is unnecessary to do a repair after swapping > >>>> motherboard. > >>> > >>> Sorry, but things have changed a lot since Win9X and WinNT. Both Win2K > >>> and WinXP almoist always require at least a repair installation upon the > >>> change of the motherboard. > >> > >> The process I was referring to was for Windows XP. I know what I am doing > >> and have done it hundreds of times. Doesn't the message > >> "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE" suggest anything to you? > > > > Sure, but the storage device controllers are just a small portion of a > > modern motherboard's components. Your technique may well allow WinXP to > > boot on the new motherboard, but it won't result in a stable installation. > > Many more drivers need to be replaced, hence the preference for a repair > > installation by experienced technicians. > It results in a perfectly fine installation almost every time, as long as > the architectures aren't light years apart. It doens't fix mismatched HALs, > e.g. if moving from a non-ACPI machine, you'll still have no ACPI after > swapping to a newer board, but this is rarely a problem anyway. A more > common problem is motherboards failing due to bad capacitors, and > same-brand-chipset motherboards not being available. > > The only thing to be aware of is if moving from an IDE or (IDE-emulated > SATA) system to an AHCI system you would want to change to the manufacturers > AHCI driver rather than to Microsoft's Standard PCI IDE driver. > > I'm afraid the preference is down to ignorance, not experience. > > |
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| | Re: Replacing motherboard and keeping hard drive Carl Farrington wrote: Quote: > > Quote: >> Sure, but the storage device controllers are just a small portion of a >> modern motherboard's components. Your technique may well allow WinXP >> to boot on the new motherboard, but it won't result in a stable >> installation. Many more drivers need to be replaced, hence the >> preference for a repair installation by experienced technicians. > It results in a perfectly fine .... This is a new usage of "perfectly fine" with which I am not familiar. What is your criteria? One failure in 3 equals "close enough?" Quote: >... installation almost .... I don't get paid for "almost." I have to stand behind my work; "good enough" won't do. Quote: > ... every time, as long > as the architectures aren't light years apart. It doens't fix mismatched > HALs, e.g. if moving from a non-ACPI machine, you'll still have no ACPI > after swapping to a newer board, but this is rarely a problem anyway. And a new usage of the word "rarely!" Quote: > A > more common problem is motherboards failing due to bad capacitors, and > same-brand-chipset motherboards not being available. > Quote: > The only thing to be aware of is if moving from an IDE or (IDE-emulated > SATA) system to an AHCI system you would want to change to the > manufacturers AHCI driver rather than to Microsoft's Standard PCI IDE > driver. > Quote: > I'm afraid the preference is down to ignorance, not experience. Ah, yes. Offer insult when reason fails. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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