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| | Updating from Home Premium to Ultimate and moving Home Premium I have a computer that runs Home Premium and another one that runs XP. The Home Premium came as a OEM disc with the new system. Now I want to upgrade the Home Premium computer to Vista Ultimate and move the Home Premium to the XP computer. I have a new (non OEM) version of Vista Ultimate on a separate disc. The Question: How do I update the Home Premium computer to Ultimate without losing what's already on it? And after doing so, can I install the Home Premium package on another computer or do I have to do something to move the license to the other computer like you do with Adobe software? I have two licenses - just need to swap them without losing all my data and software. thanks |
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| | Re: Updating from Home Premium to Ultimate and moving Home Premium Hi, To start with, and OEM license is not transferable. It is only valid for the hardware it is first activated on. In the case of a preinstalled OEM version, this means that the license to use Vista is permanently tied to the computer it comes with. So, to your situation: a) You cannot use the OEM Home Premium on a different machine than it came with. b) You can upgrade the Home Premium to Ultimate using a retail full version or upgrade and it should preserve user accounts, data, programs, and settings. c) For the XP system, you'll need a separate upgrade license. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "mor10" <mor10@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5292D106-6034-4339-98D2-8072706CB059@xxxxxx Quote: >I have a computer that runs Home Premium and another one that runs XP. The > Home Premium came as a OEM disc with the new system. Now I want to upgrade > the Home Premium computer to Vista Ultimate and move the Home Premium to > the > XP computer. I have a new (non OEM) version of Vista Ultimate on a > separate > disc. > > The Question: > > How do I update the Home Premium computer to Ultimate without losing > what's > already on it? And after doing so, can I install the Home Premium package > on > another computer or do I have to do something to move the license to the > other computer like you do with Adobe software? > > I have two licenses - just need to swap them without losing all my data > and > software. > > thanks |
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| | Re: Updating from Home Premium to Ultimate and moving Home Premium ummm... the computer that came with the OEM disc was custom built and came preinstalled with absolutely nothing. I installed Vista myself on the blank system. are you saying the program somehow notifies Microsoft of the stats of the system AFTER it is installed and that way ties the OS to that computer? In that case, what happens when I rip out the motherboard or switch processors or something like that? I'm sorry but it doesn't really make sense mor10 "Rick Rogers" wrote: Quote: > Hi, > > To start with, and OEM license is not transferable. It is only valid for the > hardware it is first activated on. In the case of a preinstalled OEM > version, this means that the license to use Vista is permanently tied to the > computer it comes with. > > So, to your situation: > > a) You cannot use the OEM Home Premium on a different machine than it came > with. > > b) You can upgrade the Home Premium to Ultimate using a retail full version > or upgrade and it should preserve user accounts, data, programs, and > settings. > > c) For the XP system, you'll need a separate upgrade license. > > -- > Best of Luck, > > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com > > "mor10" <mor10@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:5292D106-6034-4339-98D2-8072706CB059@xxxxxx Quote: > >I have a computer that runs Home Premium and another one that runs XP. The > > Home Premium came as a OEM disc with the new system. Now I want to upgrade > > the Home Premium computer to Vista Ultimate and move the Home Premium to > > the > > XP computer. I have a new (non OEM) version of Vista Ultimate on a > > separate > > disc. > > > > The Question: > > > > How do I update the Home Premium computer to Ultimate without losing > > what's > > already on it? And after doing so, can I install the Home Premium package > > on > > another computer or do I have to do something to move the license to the > > other computer like you do with Adobe software? > > > > I have two licenses - just need to swap them without losing all my data > > and > > software. > > > > thanks > |
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| | Re: Updating from Home Premium to Ultimate and moving Home Premium Hi, An OEM version is permanently tied to the first system it is activated on and is not transferable to a different system. This is a well-established limitation of the OEM license, and one reason why it is cheaper than a retail version. While you can make some upgrades or replacements to the system, major changes are not allowed, nor can you remove it from the system entirely and then install and activate it on another system. An OEM license lives and dies on the system it is first activated on. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "mor10" <mor10@xxxxxx> wrote in message news ABF3376-2AA7-4A65-8334-ABCA93D17877@xxxxxxQuote: > ummm... the computer that came with the OEM disc was custom built and came > preinstalled with absolutely nothing. I installed Vista myself on the > blank > system. are you saying the program somehow notifies Microsoft of the stats > of > the system AFTER it is installed and that way ties the OS to that > computer? > In that case, what happens when I rip out the motherboard or switch > processors or something like that? I'm sorry but it doesn't really make > sense > > mor10 > > "Rick Rogers" wrote: > Quote: >> Hi, >> >> To start with, and OEM license is not transferable. It is only valid for >> the >> hardware it is first activated on. In the case of a preinstalled OEM >> version, this means that the license to use Vista is permanently tied to >> the >> computer it comes with. >> >> So, to your situation: >> >> a) You cannot use the OEM Home Premium on a different machine than it >> came >> with. >> >> b) You can upgrade the Home Premium to Ultimate using a retail full >> version >> or upgrade and it should preserve user accounts, data, programs, and >> settings. >> >> c) For the XP system, you'll need a separate upgrade license. >> >> -- >> Best of Luck, >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >> >> "mor10" <mor10@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:5292D106-6034-4339-98D2-8072706CB059@xxxxxx Quote: >> >I have a computer that runs Home Premium and another one that runs XP. >> >The >> > Home Premium came as a OEM disc with the new system. Now I want to >> > upgrade >> > the Home Premium computer to Vista Ultimate and move the Home Premium >> > to >> > the >> > XP computer. I have a new (non OEM) version of Vista Ultimate on a >> > separate >> > disc. >> > >> > The Question: >> > >> > How do I update the Home Premium computer to Ultimate without losing >> > what's >> > already on it? And after doing so, can I install the Home Premium >> > package >> > on >> > another computer or do I have to do something to move the license to >> > the >> > other computer like you do with Adobe software? >> > >> > I have two licenses - just need to swap them without losing all my data >> > and >> > software. >> > >> > thanks >> |
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| | Re: Updating from Home Premium to Ultimate and moving Home Premium Are you sure that the Home Premium disc is OEM? Did you purchase it from a system builder? Since you installed Home Premium to the custom built PC, I suppose you could install it to the other computer, but you may need to call for activation. Rick is correct. An OEM install of Windows is tied to the PC as it is only meant to be supplied with the PC by the system builder. It is therefore not transferable. Assuming that you bought the OEM copy of Vista and had the PC built for you (or built it yourself) as long as that copy of Vista only exists on a single PC, you will be okay - assuming that it can be activated on the other PC. -steve mor10 <mor10@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >ummm... the computer that came with the OEM disc was custom built and came >preinstalled with absolutely nothing. I installed Vista myself on the blank >system. are you saying the program somehow notifies Microsoft of the stats of >the system AFTER it is installed and that way ties the OS to that computer? >In that case, what happens when I rip out the motherboard or switch >processors or something like that? I'm sorry but it doesn't really make sense > >mor10 > >"Rick Rogers" wrote: > Quote: >> Hi, >> >> To start with, and OEM license is not transferable. It is only valid for the >> hardware it is first activated on. In the case of a preinstalled OEM >> version, this means that the license to use Vista is permanently tied to the >> computer it comes with. >> >> So, to your situation: >> >> a) You cannot use the OEM Home Premium on a different machine than it came >> with. >> >> b) You can upgrade the Home Premium to Ultimate using a retail full version >> or upgrade and it should preserve user accounts, data, programs, and >> settings. >> >> c) For the XP system, you'll need a separate upgrade license. >> >> -- >> Best of Luck, >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >> >> "mor10" <mor10@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:5292D106-6034-4339-98D2-8072706CB059@xxxxxx Quote: >> >I have a computer that runs Home Premium and another one that runs XP. The >> > Home Premium came as a OEM disc with the new system. Now I want to upgrade >> > the Home Premium computer to Vista Ultimate and move the Home Premium to >> > the >> > XP computer. I have a new (non OEM) version of Vista Ultimate on a >> > separate >> > disc. >> > >> > The Question: >> > >> > How do I update the Home Premium computer to Ultimate without losing >> > what's >> > already on it? And after doing so, can I install the Home Premium package >> > on >> > another computer or do I have to do something to move the license to the >> > other computer like you do with Adobe software? >> > >> > I have two licenses - just need to swap them without losing all my data >> > and >> > software. >> > >> > thanks >> Stephen Boots MVP Windows Live Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator sboots@xxxxxx |
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| | Re: Updating from Home Premium to Ultimate and moving Home Premium The Home Premium disc is definitely OEM - it came with a white paper wrapping that states "OEM System Builder Pack". Sounds like I have to reevaluate my plan and install the Ultimate package on my other computer instead. That leads to one final question. The computer I would install it on (which currently runs XP) will be replaced with a new one within 6 months and I'd want to transfer Ultimate to the new one. The Ultimate disc is not OEM but a full version. Based on what you guys are saying I'm assuming I won't have the same transfer problem with the Ultimate disc, correct? I can just install it on a new PC as long as I remove it from the old one? "StephenB" wrote: Quote: > Are you sure that the Home Premium disc is OEM? Did you purchase it from a > system builder? Since you installed Home Premium to the custom built PC, I > suppose you could install it to the other computer, but you may need to call for > activation. > Rick is correct. An OEM install of Windows is tied to the PC as it is only meant > to be supplied with the PC by the system builder. It is therefore not > transferable. Assuming that you bought the OEM copy of Vista and had the PC > built for you (or built it yourself) as long as that copy of Vista only exists > on a single PC, you will be okay - assuming that it can be activated on the > other PC. > -steve > > > |
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| | Re: Updating from Home Premium to Ultimate and moving Home Premium Hi, If it is a retail version of Ultimate, you can move it from one system to a new one as you see fit. This is one benefit of retail over OEM. Activation will merely require a phone call. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "mor10" <mor10@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:01885FFE-BF76-474C-8261-8F7B2BC9F6BC@xxxxxx Quote: > The Home Premium disc is definitely OEM - it came with a white paper > wrapping > that states "OEM System Builder Pack". > > Sounds like I have to reevaluate my plan and install the Ultimate package > on > my other computer instead. That leads to one final question. > > The computer I would install it on (which currently runs XP) will be > replaced with a new one within 6 months and I'd want to transfer Ultimate > to > the new one. The Ultimate disc is not OEM but a full version. Based on > what > you guys are saying I'm assuming I won't have the same transfer problem > with > the Ultimate disc, correct? I can just install it on a new PC as long as I > remove it from the old one? > > "StephenB" wrote: > Quote: >> Are you sure that the Home Premium disc is OEM? Did you purchase it from >> a >> system builder? Since you installed Home Premium to the custom built PC, >> I >> suppose you could install it to the other computer, but you may need to >> call for >> activation. >> Rick is correct. An OEM install of Windows is tied to the PC as it is >> only meant >> to be supplied with the PC by the system builder. It is therefore not >> transferable. Assuming that you bought the OEM copy of Vista and had the >> PC >> built for you (or built it yourself) as long as that copy of Vista only >> exists >> on a single PC, you will be okay - assuming that it can be activated on >> the >> other PC. >> -steve >> >> >> |
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