I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on the
first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I want to
install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without jeopardizing my
multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of Vista from Vista or
from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not lose either boot screen?

Thanks,
Edwin

Edwin--

I continue to see two camps on installing from XP or just installing Vista by booting from the CD on a clean partition. My preference to installing from XP is that it will retain the same drive letters that way. If you install from XP and it will always (just as before) give you a "custom" link at the beginning of setup and list your partitions and drivers and allow you to park it in the space you choose.

Maybe there are some reasons for not doing this--but I don't know what they would be. You should be fine also in that you *already have an XP in and you're going to put it on a clean partition--so you have the oldest OS in first.

But I don't have any experience of ***installing Vista from Vista***, and a lot of the people comparing 32 bit and 64 bit on the same box probably do and should chime in. I'd be interested to know if I missed some downside to doing either.

CH


"Edwin" <edwin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3676DEB7-AB44-4CCA-8179-673C840CF4EE@microsoft.com...
>I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on the
> first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I want to
> install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without jeopardizing my
> multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of Vista from Vista or
> from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not lose either boot screen?
>
> Thanks,
> Edwin

Edwin wrote:
> I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on the
> first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I want to
> install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without jeopardizing my
> multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of Vista from Vista or
> from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not lose either boot screen?
>
> Thanks,
> Edwin

Do you have a second key? When I tried to
install the 2nd instance of Vista it would not
allow me to use the same key for the 2nd
install. I had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd
install.

Thanks. There seems to be some conflicting information being given out by
Microsoft. When I wanted to do a third download (in order to get the 64-bit
version) I was blocked because of having "the maximum number of keys allowed
per person." But I was told that each key could be used on up to 15 (believe
it or not) computers. I do have an extra key. But I think that, as in XP, the
same key can be used multiply on a single computer and that a new key should
not be required in the case of a multiboot on separate partitions of the same
computer.

Was your second install attempt on a different computer?

My question was as to whether I should do the second Vista install from my
Vista installation or from my XP (boot partition) installation. I think that
CH was telling me that I will not lose my two-stage boot menus if I install
from XP. I am going to wait another day before making the attempt, to see if
anyone else has advice on this.

Edwin

"John Boy" wrote:

Do you have a second key? When I tried to
install the 2nd instance of Vista it would not
allow me to use the same key for the 2nd
install. I had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd
install.

> Edwin wrote:
> > I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on the
> > first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I want to
> > install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without jeopardizing my
> > multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of Vista from Vista or
> > from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not lose either boot screen?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Edwin

If you have XP x86 running you can install multiple copies of Vista x86 from
the XP desktop but you have to boot from the dvd to install Vista x64. If
you have XP x64 then you can install multiple copies of Vista x86 and Vista
x64 from the XP x64 desktop and do not need to boot with any dvd's. I
recommend installing from the XP desktop whenever you can over booting with
the dvd. There are some differences in how drive letters are assigned
between the two methods. Neither creates any problems that I know of, but
some users get hung up on the drive letters assignments that result from
booting with the dvd. See other discussions on this in this ng.

"Edwin" <edwin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:48E63591-ECF9-4CC3-AD22-C38D598F7ED1@microsoft.com...
> Thanks. There seems to be some conflicting information being given out by
> Microsoft. When I wanted to do a third download (in order to get the
> 64-bit
> version) I was blocked because of having "the maximum number of keys
> allowed
> per person." But I was told that each key could be used on up to 15
> (believe
> it or not) computers. I do have an extra key. But I think that, as in XP,
> the
> same key can be used multiply on a single computer and that a new key
> should
> not be required in the case of a multiboot on separate partitions of the
> same
> computer.
>
> Was your second install attempt on a different computer?
>
> My question was as to whether I should do the second Vista install from my
> Vista installation or from my XP (boot partition) installation. I think
> that
> CH was telling me that I will not lose my two-stage boot menus if I
> install
> from XP. I am going to wait another day before making the attempt, to see
> if
> anyone else has advice on this.
>
> Edwin
>
> "John Boy" wrote:
>
> Do you have a second key? When I tried to
> install the 2nd instance of Vista it would not
> allow me to use the same key for the 2nd
> install. I had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd
> install.
>
>> Edwin wrote:
>> > I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on
>> > the
>> > first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I want
>> > to
>> > install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without
>> > jeopardizing my
>> > multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of Vista from Vista
>> > or
>> > from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not lose either boot
>> > screen?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Edwin
>

I am not skilled yet at using this newsgroup. I answered "no" to the
question: "Did this answer your question?" But your post was truly helpful to
me. I got the opportunity to answer the question, "Was this reply helpful to
you?" for Colin's post but I was not afforded the opportunity to do that for
your post. Anyway, thanks!

"John Boy" wrote:

> Edwin wrote:
> > I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on the
> > first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I want to
> > install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without jeopardizing my
> > multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of Vista from Vista or
> > from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not lose either boot screen?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Edwin
>
> Do you have a second key? When I tried to
> install the 2nd instance of Vista it would not
> allow me to use the same key for the 2nd
> install. I had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd
> install.
>
>

You're right in that Microsoft says you can use
any one key to install Vista on up to 10
computers. However, you cannot use one key to
do multiple installation on one computer.

When Vista refused to accept my 1st key for a
2nd installation, I was trying to install Vista
x64 after I had installed Vista x86 on the same
computer, same hard drive with a 2nd partition.


Edwin wrote:
> Thanks. There seems to be some conflicting information being given out by
> Microsoft. When I wanted to do a third download (in order to get the 64-bit
> version) I was blocked because of having "the maximum number of keys allowed
> per person." But I was told that each key could be used on up to 15 (believe
> it or not) computers. I do have an extra key. But I think that, as in XP, the
> same key can be used multiply on a single computer and that a new key should
> not be required in the case of a multiboot on separate partitions of the same
> computer.
>
> Was your second install attempt on a different computer?
>
> My question was as to whether I should do the second Vista install from my
> Vista installation or from my XP (boot partition) installation. I think that
> CH was telling me that I will not lose my two-stage boot menus if I install
> from XP. I am going to wait another day before making the attempt, to see if
> anyone else has advice on this.
>
> Edwin
>
> "John Boy" wrote:
>
> Do you have a second key? When I tried to
> install the 2nd instance of Vista it would not
> allow me to use the same key for the 2nd
> install. I had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd
> install.
>
>> Edwin wrote:
>>> I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on the
>>> first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I want to
>>> install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without jeopardizing my
>>> multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of Vista from Vista or
>>> from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not lose either boot screen?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Edwin
>

I routinely use the same key for multiple installations on the same machine
to different partitions. I don't understand your problem?

"John Boy" <John.Boy@Discussions.Microsoft.Com> wrote in message
news:uGyilAyrGHA.204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You're right in that Microsoft says you can use any one key to install
> Vista on up to 10 computers. However, you cannot use one key to do
> multiple installation on one computer.
>
> When Vista refused to accept my 1st key for a 2nd installation, I was
> trying to install Vista x64 after I had installed Vista x86 on the same
> computer, same hard drive with a 2nd partition.
>
>
> Edwin wrote:
>> Thanks. There seems to be some conflicting information being given out by
>> Microsoft. When I wanted to do a third download (in order to get the
>> 64-bit version) I was blocked because of having "the maximum number of
>> keys allowed per person." But I was told that each key could be used on
>> up to 15 (believe it or not) computers. I do have an extra key. But I
>> think that, as in XP, the same key can be used multiply on a single
>> computer and that a new key should not be required in the case of a
>> multiboot on separate partitions of the same computer. Was your second
>> install attempt on a different computer?
>>
>> My question was as to whether I should do the second Vista install from
>> my Vista installation or from my XP (boot partition) installation. I
>> think that CH was telling me that I will not lose my two-stage boot menus
>> if I install from XP. I am going to wait another day before making the
>> attempt, to see if anyone else has advice on this.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> "John Boy" wrote:
>>
>> Do you have a second key? When I tried to install the 2nd instance of
>> Vista it would not allow me to use the same key for the 2nd install. I
>> had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd install.
>>
>>> Edwin wrote:
>>>> I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on
>>>> the first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I
>>>> want to install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without
>>>> jeopardizing my multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of
>>>> Vista from Vista or from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not
>>>> lose either boot screen?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Edwin
>>

I guess you're lucky then!

I installed both Vista x86 & x64 in a dual boot
configuration with separate partitions on 2
separate computes and each time the key used for
the 1st instance was refused by Vista during the
second installation.

I guess it could be an anomaly in Vista like a
lot of variances. I can't get the video driver
or the sound driver to load correctly, but
others say they have no problem. On the other
hand I have no USB, printer, or scanner problems
that others report in Vista. I will just wait
for the RC1 and see how things work then.


Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> I routinely use the same key for multiple installations on the same machine
> to different partitions. I don't understand your problem?
>
> "John Boy" <John.Boy@Discussions.Microsoft.Com> wrote in message
> news:uGyilAyrGHA.204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You're right in that Microsoft says you can use any one key to install
>> Vista on up to 10 computers. However, you cannot use one key to do
>> multiple installation on one computer.
>>
>> When Vista refused to accept my 1st key for a 2nd installation, I was
>> trying to install Vista x64 after I had installed Vista x86 on the same
>> computer, same hard drive with a 2nd partition.
>>
>>
>> Edwin wrote:
>>> Thanks. There seems to be some conflicting information being given out by
>>> Microsoft. When I wanted to do a third download (in order to get the
>>> 64-bit version) I was blocked because of having "the maximum number of
>>> keys allowed per person." But I was told that each key could be used on
>>> up to 15 (believe it or not) computers. I do have an extra key. But I
>>> think that, as in XP, the same key can be used multiply on a single
>>> computer and that a new key should not be required in the case of a
>>> multiboot on separate partitions of the same computer. Was your second
>>> install attempt on a different computer?
>>>
>>> My question was as to whether I should do the second Vista install from
>>> my Vista installation or from my XP (boot partition) installation. I
>>> think that CH was telling me that I will not lose my two-stage boot menus
>>> if I install from XP. I am going to wait another day before making the
>>> attempt, to see if anyone else has advice on this.
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>> "John Boy" wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have a second key? When I tried to install the 2nd instance of
>>> Vista it would not allow me to use the same key for the 2nd install. I
>>> had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd install.
>>>
>>>> Edwin wrote:
>>>>> I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista on
>>>>> the first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second. Now I
>>>>> want to install a second instance of Vista on a new partition without
>>>>> jeopardizing my multiboot menus. Should I install the new instance of
>>>>> Vista from Vista or from XP? Or is it OK to do it from either and not
>>>>> lose either boot screen?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Edwin
>
>

I agree that there are a lot of anomolies. It shouldn't be more than four
weeks to RC1 anyway. I can't get the sound driver that worked fine on 5456
to work on 5472, so I know what you mean.

"John Boy" <John.Boy@Discussions.Microsoft.Com> wrote in message
news:Oo1g600rGHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I guess you're lucky then!
>
> I installed both Vista x86 & x64 in a dual boot configuration with
> separate partitions on 2 separate computes and each time the key used for
> the 1st instance was refused by Vista during the second installation.
>
> I guess it could be an anomaly in Vista like a lot of variances. I can't
> get the video driver or the sound driver to load correctly, but others say
> they have no problem. On the other hand I have no USB, printer, or
> scanner problems that others report in Vista. I will just wait for the
> RC1 and see how things work then.
>
>
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> I routinely use the same key for multiple installations on the same
>> machine to different partitions. I don't understand your problem?
>>
>> "John Boy" <John.Boy@Discussions.Microsoft.Com> wrote in message
>> news:uGyilAyrGHA.204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You're right in that Microsoft says you can use any one key to install
>>> Vista on up to 10 computers. However, you cannot use one key to do
>>> multiple installation on one computer.
>>>
>>> When Vista refused to accept my 1st key for a 2nd installation, I was
>>> trying to install Vista x64 after I had installed Vista x86 on the same
>>> computer, same hard drive with a 2nd partition.
>>>
>>>
>>> Edwin wrote:
>>>> Thanks. There seems to be some conflicting information being given out
>>>> by Microsoft. When I wanted to do a third download (in order to get the
>>>> 64-bit version) I was blocked because of having "the maximum number of
>>>> keys allowed per person." But I was told that each key could be used on
>>>> up to 15 (believe it or not) computers. I do have an extra key. But I
>>>> think that, as in XP, the same key can be used multiply on a single
>>>> computer and that a new key should not be required in the case of a
>>>> multiboot on separate partitions of the same computer. Was your second
>>>> install attempt on a different computer?
>>>>
>>>> My question was as to whether I should do the second Vista install from
>>>> my Vista installation or from my XP (boot partition) installation. I
>>>> think that CH was telling me that I will not lose my two-stage boot
>>>> menus if I install from XP. I am going to wait another day before
>>>> making the attempt, to see if anyone else has advice on this.
>>>>
>>>> Edwin
>>>>
>>>> "John Boy" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a second key? When I tried to install the 2nd instance of
>>>> Vista it would not allow me to use the same key for the 2nd install. I
>>>> had to acquire a 2nd key for the 2nd install.
>>>>
>>>>> Edwin wrote:
>>>>>> I have a successful 2-stage multi-boot that allows me to go to Vista
>>>>>> on the first page and then displays my XP multiboot on the second.
>>>>>> Now I want to install a second instance of Vista on a new partition
>>>>>> without jeopardizing my multiboot menus. Should I install the new
>>>>>> instance of Vista from Vista or from XP? Or is it OK to do it from
>>>>>> either and not lose either boot screen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Edwin
>>