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Downgrade to XP?

  1. #1


    PhooPhan Guest

    Downgrade to XP?

    I'm not a computer guru but I know enough to get myself in trouble. I bought
    a new Dell laptop about 6 months ago and they talked me into going with Vista
    Home Premium. I really like what Vista is supposed to do but I'm getting way
    too frustrated with all the little things that go wrong all the time.

    1. Internet Explorer locks up then fades and says it's "Not Responding".
    Then I go to Task Manager and kill the program then start up IE again and all
    is well, for a little bit anyway.

    2. A couple of programs will all of a sudden freeze the entire laptop and
    the only way I can fix it is to hold down the power button until it powers
    down.

    3. My last laptop running XP was twice as fast as this one running Vista
    yet everyone says I should have a screaming laptop considering the hardware
    configuration. Outlook takes 45 seconds to open and get to a point where I
    can start using it.

    This is only two examples of the many problems I experience every day.
    Since I purchased my laptop from Dell I'm told I have to work with them to
    troubleshoot but so far no one over there has been able to fix anything
    Vista. (I don't even think they can spell Vista.)

    I'm told Microsoft is now offering a downgrade program to XP for Vista
    users. If that's true then there must be major problems with Vista that
    makes me scared to stay with it. Some people say I should be patient and
    Vista will smooth out as the bugs are fixed. Any suggestions regarding
    downgrading? I'm at the end of my rope having to deal with these issues
    every day.

    Downgrade or carry on as is?

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  2. #2


    philo Guest

    Re: Downgrade to XP?


    "PhooPhan" <PhooPhan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:E203754A-4948-423E-898A-CB37AADE7E28@xxxxxx

    > I'm not a computer guru but I know enough to get myself in trouble. I
    bought

    > a new Dell laptop about 6 months ago and they talked me into going with
    Vista

    > Home Premium. I really like what Vista is supposed to do but I'm getting
    way

    > too frustrated with all the little things that go wrong all the time.
    >
    > 1. Internet Explorer locks up then fades and says it's "Not Responding".
    > Then I go to Task Manager and kill the program then start up IE again and
    all

    > is well, for a little bit anyway.
    >
    > 2. A couple of programs will all of a sudden freeze the entire laptop and
    > the only way I can fix it is to hold down the power button until it powers
    > down.
    >
    > 3. My last laptop running XP was twice as fast as this one running Vista
    > yet everyone says I should have a screaming laptop considering the
    hardware

    > configuration. Outlook takes 45 seconds to open and get to a point where
    I

    > can start using it.
    >
    > This is only two examples of the many problems I experience every day.
    > Since I purchased my laptop from Dell I'm told I have to work with them to
    > troubleshoot but so far no one over there has been able to fix anything
    > Vista. (I don't even think they can spell Vista.)
    >
    > I'm told Microsoft is now offering a downgrade program to XP for Vista
    > users. If that's true then there must be major problems with Vista that
    > makes me scared to stay with it. Some people say I should be patient and
    > Vista will smooth out as the bugs are fixed. Any suggestions regarding
    > downgrading? I'm at the end of my rope having to deal with these issues
    > every day.
    >
    > Downgrade or carry on as is?

    First thing I'd do is insist that the vendor fix it since it's presumably
    still under warranty.

    Although I suspect the problem is with Vista...

    There could be a hardware problem



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  3. #3


    Mick Murphy Guest

    RE: Downgrade to XP?

    Microsoft is not supplying XP to unhappy Vista users.

    As far as I know, Dell has a solution whereby THEY supply you with XP disks
    for a minimal charge.
    They are still selling computers loaded with XP
    Dell's answer to probs is a full recovery, lol.

    Re your IE7 prob; try starting it with no-addons. In the right top of
    IE7>tools>Manage Addons.
    Delete them and add them one at a time to find the culprit.

    With your other problems post them in vista.general stating your computer's
    harware specs, and what programs you are having troble with, AND what , if
    any, error messages you are getting.
    You should have a minimum of 128MBs for Graphics, and 1 G of RAM, and that
    will still be slow compared to XP.
    You also have a lot of Dell's crap on there, and you don't say what is
    starting up at startup.
    You don't say what version of Outlook you are using.

    Are the programs you are having trouble with compatible with Vista?

    Good luck.

    "PhooPhan" wrote:

    > I'm not a computer guru but I know enough to get myself in trouble. I bought
    > a new Dell laptop about 6 months ago and they talked me into going with Vista
    > Home Premium. I really like what Vista is supposed to do but I'm getting way
    > too frustrated with all the little things that go wrong all the time.
    >
    > 1. Internet Explorer locks up then fades and says it's "Not Responding".
    > Then I go to Task Manager and kill the program then start up IE again and all
    > is well, for a little bit anyway.
    >
    > 2. A couple of programs will all of a sudden freeze the entire laptop and
    > the only way I can fix it is to hold down the power button until it powers
    > down.
    >
    > 3. My last laptop running XP was twice as fast as this one running Vista
    > yet everyone says I should have a screaming laptop considering the hardware
    > configuration. Outlook takes 45 seconds to open and get to a point where I
    > can start using it.
    >
    > This is only two examples of the many problems I experience every day.
    > Since I purchased my laptop from Dell I'm told I have to work with them to
    > troubleshoot but so far no one over there has been able to fix anything
    > Vista. (I don't even think they can spell Vista.)
    >
    > I'm told Microsoft is now offering a downgrade program to XP for Vista
    > users. If that's true then there must be major problems with Vista that
    > makes me scared to stay with it. Some people say I should be patient and
    > Vista will smooth out as the bugs are fixed. Any suggestions regarding
    > downgrading? I'm at the end of my rope having to deal with these issues
    > every day.
    >
    > Downgrade or carry on as is?

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    RalfG Guest

    Re: Downgrade to XP?

    I would suspect that at least some of the issues are created by 3rd party
    software installed on the computer. Are you using the Vista firewall or a
    3rd party firewall? Are two firewalls running simultaneously?

    1: -- in IE try disabling Protected Mode for the Internet zone... did
    wonders on mine.

    2: -- For the problem programs try enabling "run as administrator". You can
    do this with right click when you start the icon and if it makes a
    difference you can set it as a default in the program's shortcut properties.
    Some software just isn't Vista compatible but running in XP or Win2k
    compatibility mode (also in shortcut properties) can help.

    3: -- Is there an AV or anti spam program on the PC automatically scanning
    your Outlook mail base every time you open it?



    "PhooPhan" <PhooPhan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:E203754A-4948-423E-898A-CB37AADE7E28@xxxxxx

    > I'm not a computer guru but I know enough to get myself in trouble. I
    > bought
    > a new Dell laptop about 6 months ago and they talked me into going with
    > Vista
    > Home Premium. I really like what Vista is supposed to do but I'm getting
    > way
    > too frustrated with all the little things that go wrong all the time.
    >
    > 1. Internet Explorer locks up then fades and says it's "Not Responding".
    > Then I go to Task Manager and kill the program then start up IE again and
    > all
    > is well, for a little bit anyway.
    >
    > 2. A couple of programs will all of a sudden freeze the entire laptop and
    > the only way I can fix it is to hold down the power button until it powers
    > down.
    >
    > 3. My last laptop running XP was twice as fast as this one running Vista
    > yet everyone says I should have a screaming laptop considering the
    > hardware
    > configuration. Outlook takes 45 seconds to open and get to a point where
    > I
    > can start using it.
    >
    > This is only two examples of the many problems I experience every day.
    > Since I purchased my laptop from Dell I'm told I have to work with them to
    > troubleshoot but so far no one over there has been able to fix anything
    > Vista. (I don't even think they can spell Vista.)
    >
    > I'm told Microsoft is now offering a downgrade program to XP for Vista
    > users. If that's true then there must be major problems with Vista that
    > makes me scared to stay with it. Some people say I should be patient and
    > Vista will smooth out as the bugs are fixed. Any suggestions regarding
    > downgrading? I'm at the end of my rope having to deal with these issues
    > every day.
    >
    > Downgrade or carry on as is?

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    David Morgan \(MAMS\) Guest

    Re: Downgrade to XP?


    "PhooPhan" <PhooPhan@xxxxxx> wrote in message...

    > Downgrade or carry on as is?
    I believe that Dell will allow you to downgrade at their expense.




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  6. #6


    Patrick Keenan Guest

    Re: Downgrade to XP?

    "PhooPhan" <PhooPhan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:E203754A-4948-423E-898A-CB37AADE7E28@xxxxxx

    > I'm not a computer guru but I know enough to get myself in trouble. I
    > bought
    > a new Dell laptop about 6 months ago and they talked me into going with
    > Vista
    > Home Premium. I really like what Vista is supposed to do but I'm getting
    > way
    > too frustrated with all the little things that go wrong all the time.
    >
    > 1. Internet Explorer locks up then fades and says it's "Not Responding".
    > Then I go to Task Manager and kill the program then start up IE again and
    > all
    > is well, for a little bit anyway.
    >
    > 2. A couple of programs will all of a sudden freeze the entire laptop and
    > the only way I can fix it is to hold down the power button until it powers
    > down.
    >
    > 3. My last laptop running XP was twice as fast as this one running Vista
    > yet everyone says I should have a screaming laptop considering the
    > hardware
    > configuration. Outlook takes 45 seconds to open and get to a point where
    > I
    > can start using it.
    >
    > This is only two examples of the many problems I experience every day.
    > Since I purchased my laptop from Dell I'm told I have to work with them to
    > troubleshoot but so far no one over there has been able to fix anything
    > Vista. (I don't even think they can spell Vista.)
    >
    > I'm told Microsoft is now offering a downgrade program to XP for Vista
    > users.
    Not exactly. Downgrade rights are limited to specific versions of Vista,
    primarily Business and Ultimate. No Home versions qualify, as far as I can
    tell.

    The downgrading user has to supply the XP install media and a working
    install key; MS will not provide these (except in the form of a new license
    sale), and then you must apply to MS for activation codes.

    http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf

    > If that's true then there must be major problems with Vista that
    > makes me scared to stay with it.
    No, it actually means that MS recognises that specific and large market
    segments (i.e. corporations and institutions) can't shift to Vista without
    years of testing and revising legacy apps. Those segments can easily need
    new hardware, but not be able to use a new OS.

    I happened to be walking by a Customs and Immigration desk recently. The
    PCs were running Windows 2000.

    > Some people say I should be patient and
    > Vista will smooth out as the bugs are fixed. Any suggestions regarding
    > downgrading? I'm at the end of my rope having to deal with these issues
    > every day.
    >
    > Downgrade or carry on as is?
    For you, downgrading to XP is at your own expense and risk. You must
    provide a new XP license, and to install it, you have to start with
    formatting. I would suggest removing the Vista drive, adding a new hard
    disk for XP (where I am, 500 gig drives are just over $100), and installing.

    However, there is a caveat that you absolutely MUST respect, and that is the
    availability of drivers. Many systems that come with Vista Home versions
    aren't offered with XP as an option, and drivers, particularly motherboard
    chipset drivers may just not ever be available.

    Check that you can get the drivers *first* before considering any
    installations. If you can't get the drivers, you'll wind up having made the
    problem much worse.

    Your system is a Dell, and Dell has made it easy to check. Look on the
    bottom of your laptop for the Service Tag number. Log onto the Dell
    support site and search on that Service Tag number. You will find all the
    drivers that are available for your system.

    If there aren't XP drivers, reconsider your options, which include returning
    or selling that laptop and getting one that can have XP installed
    successfully.

    HTH
    -pk


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