Hi,

Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question
is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make this
partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate
partition and files on yet another??

Thanks

Ridesy

"Ridesy" <Ridesy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68A83DD0-7235-41CE-AEB9-06C8F3082BF9@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP, question
> is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big should I make
> this
> partition if it is to be the OS only with all programmes etc on a separate
> partition and files on yet another??
>
> Thanks
>
> Ridesy


40GB with at least 15GB free.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...y/capable.mspx

Ridesy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big
> should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all
> programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
>
> Thanks
>
> Ridesy

I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6 GB
free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a seperate
partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets corrupted you will
need to reinstall or restore both partitions.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
www.VistaHelp.ca

My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all
of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most.
However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition> the
XP partition is 30GB.
I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate
partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for any
direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use
of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:e4cuseYsGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ridesy wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
>> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big
>> should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all
>> programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ridesy
>
> I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full, ~6
> GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a
> seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets
> corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> www.VistaHelp.ca
>
>
>
>

The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions is if
you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images smaller and
manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always operate with a
3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had a problem that only a
restore from an image would fix.
Just my 2 cents worth.


"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:ObYF0JZsGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all
> of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most.
> However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition>
the
> XP partition is 30GB.
> I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate
> partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
> either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
any
> direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use
> of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:e4cuseYsGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Ridesy wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
> >> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big
> >> should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all
> >> programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ridesy
> >
> > I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full,
~6
> > GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a
> > seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets
> > corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
> >
> > --
> > Kerry
> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > www.VistaHelp.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Is the Office 2007 beta still available for download?
I plan to install my Vista on 30GB partition and might as well install
Office 2007.
Thanks


"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:ObYF0JZsGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put all
> of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most.
> However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition>
the
> XP partition is 30GB.
> I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate
> partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
> either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
any
> direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use
> of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:e4cuseYsGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Ridesy wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
> >> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big
> >> should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all
> >> programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ridesy
> >
> > I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full,
~6
> > GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a
> > seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets
> > corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
> >
> > --
> > Kerry
> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > www.VistaHelp.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Yes, Office Beta is still available for download from MSFT. You should be
able to find in three clicks.

--
Mark

My favourite so far: Unknown device has been correctly installed.


"JCO" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:O7lFYocsGHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Is the Office 2007 beta still available for download?
> I plan to install my Vista on 30GB partition and might as well install
> Office 2007.
> Thanks
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ObYF0JZsGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't put
>> all
>> of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use the most.
>> However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows XP partition>
> the
>> XP partition is 30GB.
>> I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate
>> partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind,
>> either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not be liable for
> any
>> direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use
>> of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail..
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:e4cuseYsGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Ridesy wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
>> >> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big
>> >> should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all
>> >> programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Ridesy
>> >
>> > I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost full,
> ~6
>> > GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install programs on a
>> > seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If the OS gets
>> > corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both partitions.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kerry
>> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> > www.VistaHelp.ca
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

You still have to restore both the OS and Apps at the same time or there is
a serious risk of some apps having incorrect registry settings, wrong dlls
etc. All the imaging software I've used has some mechanism for splitting
images over several DVDs.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
www.VistaHelp.ca




JCO wrote:
> The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions
> is if you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images
> smaller and manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always
> operate with a 3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had
> a problem that only a restore from an image would fix.
> Just my 2 cents worth.
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ObYF0JZsGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't
>> put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use
>> the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows
>> XP partition> the XP partition is 30GB.
>> I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate
>> partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not
>> be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential
>> damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information
>> or opinions expressed in this mail..
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:e4cuseYsGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Ridesy wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
>>>> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big
>>>> should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all
>>>> programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Ridesy
>>>
>>> I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost
>>> full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install
>>> programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If
>>> the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both
>>> partitions.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerry
>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>> www.VistaHelp.ca

I'm not arguing with the use of imaging for backups. I do it myself. I just
don't see any sense in separating Apps from the OS. To each their own. If it
works for you then that's great.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
www.VistaHelp.ca




JCO wrote:
> Your right for the most part. But if you manage it correctly, it can
> be a simple task.
> Sometimes, when you know you have not added any programs... you can
> only restore the one partition.
> It's also a good idea to have a text file handy, with the image.
> Each time something is done to your system, you document it. That
> way, when you do a restore, you will know what program was installed
> after the image was taken. Of course you want to update the images
> every so often and after any major programs have been installed.
>
> I'm not saying its an easy thing to do. I've just been through so
> much in the years that I now know what I have to do to make it work.
> Imaging of your partitions is a great method to stay a head of the
> game.
>
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:OnqwoxdsGHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> You still have to restore both the OS and Apps at the same time or
>> there is a serious risk of some apps having incorrect registry
>> settings, wrong dlls etc. All the imaging software I've used has
>> some mechanism for splitting images over several DVDs.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> www.VistaHelp.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JCO wrote:
>>> The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions
>>> is if you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images
>>> smaller and manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always
>>> operate with a 3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had
>>> a problem that only a restore from an image would fix.
>>> Just my 2 cents worth.
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
>>> news:ObYF0JZsGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't
>>>> put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use
>>>> the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows
>>>> XP partition> the XP partition is 30GB.
>>>> I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate
>>>> partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Barnett MVP
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>>>
>>>> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>>>> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>>>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not
>>>> be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential
>>>> damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information
>>>> or opinions expressed in this mail..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>>> news:e4cuseYsGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ridesy wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
>>>>>> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how
>>>>>> big should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with
>>>>>> all programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet
>>>>>> another??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ridesy
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost
>>>>> full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install
>>>>> programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this.
>>>>> If the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore
>>>>> both partitions.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kerry
>>>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>>>> www.VistaHelp.ca

Your right for the most part. But if you manage it correctly, it can be a
simple task.
Sometimes, when you know you have not added any programs... you can only
restore the one partition.
It's also a good idea to have a text file handy, with the image. Each time
something is done to your system, you document it. That way, when you do a
restore, you will know what program was installed after the image was taken.
Of course you want to update the images every so often and after any major
programs have been installed.

I'm not saying its an easy thing to do. I've just been through so much in
the years that I now know what I have to do to make it work. Imaging of
your partitions is a great method to stay a head of the game.



"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:OnqwoxdsGHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> You still have to restore both the OS and Apps at the same time or there
is
> a serious risk of some apps having incorrect registry settings, wrong dlls
> etc. All the imaging software I've used has some mechanism for splitting
> images over several DVDs.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> www.VistaHelp.ca
>
>
>
>
> JCO wrote:
> > The only value of having your applications on a separate partitions
> > is if you Image your partition as backups. It makes the images
> > smaller and manageable. You can fit them on a DVD. I always
> > operate with a 3-partitions (OS, Apps & Data). Many times, I've had
> > a problem that only a restore from an image would fix.
> > Just my 2 cents worth.
> >
> >
> > "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> > news:ObYF0JZsGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> My Vista 'test' partition is like Kerry's 20GB. Although i haven't
> >> put all of Office 2007 on. I simply install the applications i use
> >> the most. However, the full version of Office 2007 is on my Windows
> >> XP partition> the XP partition is 30GB.
> >> I also agree with Kerry regarding installing programs on a seperate
> >> partition. There is certainly no value in it at all.
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Barnett MVP
> >> Associate Expert
> >> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> >>
> >> The information in this mail is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> >> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail. The Author shall not
> >> be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential
> >> damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information
> >> or opinions expressed in this mail..
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> >> news:e4cuseYsGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>> Ridesy wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Want to install Vista on it's own partition as dual boot with XP,
> >>>> question is for Vista (or XP on it's own for that matter), how big
> >>>> should I make this partition if it is to be the OS only with all
> >>>> programmes etc on a separate partition and files on yet another??
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Ridesy
> >>>
> >>> I have Vista on a 20 GB hard drive. With Office 2007 it's almost
> >>> full, ~6 GB free. I wouldn't go any less than 20 GB. Why install
> >>> programs on a seperate partition? There is no advantage to this. If
> >>> the OS gets corrupted you will need to reinstall or restore both
> >>> partitions.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kerry
> >>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >>> www.VistaHelp.ca
>
>