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| | Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? First, some background, and then three questions. I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new computer, and Windows 2000/pro on a much older (8 years?) computer. I have no difficulty transferring files from one to the other using flash memory units. Both systems are running fine. I was told, by a not always reliable person, that I can simply plug either a regular ethernet cable, or a crossover ethernet cable, into each computer and each will immediately recognize the other, and each will show up on the other's Window Explorer windows. Then, I'm told, I could drag and drop files from one computer to the other with a click of a mouse on either computer. So, I tried it. Purchased a new crossover ethernet cable, plugged it in, and no visible response. No sparks, no smoke - nothing. Directory trees did not change on either computer's screen. The person who told me this would work doesn't "have time to check into it right now." My questions: 1. Is it likely that I caused any damage to either computer? Both continue to work as well as they ever did, so I don't think so. 2. Is it possible to connect the two computers together, via such an ethernet cable, and have them behave as I had been told? 3. If the answer to question 2 is yes, what else must I do besides plug in the cable? Many thanks. -- ---------- CWLee Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and promote for performance, not preferences. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? "CWLee" <cdubyalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eYQEXgHcIHA.4696@xxxxxx <snipped> Quote: > My questions: > > 1. Is it likely that I caused any damage to either computer? Both > continue to work as well as they ever did, so I don't think so. Quote: > > 2. Is it possible to connect the two computers together, via such an > ethernet cable, and have them behave as I had been told? > null cable. Quote: > 3. If the answer to question 2 is yes, what else must I do besides plug > in the cable? |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote Quote: > Yes, you can have two computers connected to each other > using a crossover or null cable. > Quote: >> 3. If the answer to question 2 is yes, what else must I >> do besides plug in the cable? > <http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/da25b51f-8c3d-e025-74aa-1fa3f29f6cdd1033.mspx> the instructions in the link, and at first nothing happened. Since there was a note there that, if Windows XP is involved "... it can take some time ... " for the computer to appear. Since I'm using both Vista on one machine, and Windows 2000/pro on the other one, I thought a similar, or longer, delay might be involved. After 3-5 minutes I heard a small mechanical click (couldn't tell from which computer) and then the older machine, which has not been on-line for a few days, notified me that Norton AV updates were available for download. That told me it was now on-line, via the Vista machine. The updates were downloaded, and I then opened Internet Explorer, and verified that I could visit websites on that computer. (Note that I'm using dial-up on an ordinary phone line, and heretofore I've had to switch the phone line between the two computers - with an A/B switch box - and only one computer could be on-line at the same time.) But, there is no indication on any screen I have found on either computer that points to the other computer, or that displays files on the other computer. Do you have any further suggestions so that I might use either computer to view, copy, modify, etc. files on the other computer. Again, many thanks for your assistance. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:42:05 -0800, "CWLee" <cdubyalee@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote > Quote: >> Yes, you can have two computers connected to each other >> using a crossover or null cable. >> Quote: >>> 3. If the answer to question 2 is yes, what else must I >>> do besides plug in the cable? >> <http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/da25b51f-8c3d-e025-74aa-1fa3f29f6cdd1033.mspx> >Thanks for all the answers, and for the link. I followed >the instructions in the link, and at first nothing happened. >Since there was a note there that, if Windows XP is involved >"... it can take some time ... " for the computer to appear. >Since I'm using both Vista on one machine, and Windows >2000/pro on the other one, I thought a similar, or longer, >delay might be involved. After 3-5 minutes I heard a small >mechanical click (couldn't tell from which computer) and >then the older machine, which has not been on-line for a few >days, notified me that Norton AV updates were available for >download. That told me it was now on-line, via the Vista >machine. The updates were downloaded, and I then opened >Internet Explorer, and verified that I could visit websites >on that computer. (Note that I'm using dial-up on an >ordinary phone line, and heretofore I've had to switch the >phone line between the two computers - with an A/B switch >box - and only one computer could be on-line at the same >time.) > >But, there is no indication on any screen I have found on >either computer that points to the other computer, or that >displays files on the other computer. > >Do you have any further suggestions so that I might use >either computer to view, copy, modify, etc. files on the >other computer. Drive... In the Folder box, type \\computer_name_of_Windows_2000_computer\C$ Finish. Quote: > >Again, many thanks for your assistance. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? "andy" <bogusaddress@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > On the Vista computer, right click on Computer and select > Map Network > Drive... > In the Folder box, type > \\computer_name_of_Windows_2000_computer\C$ > Finish. the C drive of the W2000 computer on the Vista computer. My W2000 computer also has a D drive, but it does not show up on the Vista computer. Should your suggestion above be modified somehow to enable BOTH the C and D drives? Regardless of your answer to that question, what suggestions do you have to enable the W2000 computer to see the directory tree of the Vista computer (which also has both C and D drives)? Thank you. I really appreciate your assistance. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:57:19 -0800, "CWLee" <cdubyalee@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >"andy" <bogusaddress@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >> On the Vista computer, right click on Computer and select >> Map Network >> Drive... >> In the Folder box, type >> \\computer_name_of_Windows_2000_computer\C$ >> Finish. >Thanks. I did that and I can now see the directory tree of >the C drive of the W2000 computer on the Vista computer. My >W2000 computer also has a D drive, but it does not show up >on the Vista computer. Should your suggestion above be >modified somehow to enable BOTH the C and D drives? Quote: > >Regardless of your answer to that question, what suggestions >do you have to enable the W2000 computer to see the >directory tree of the Vista computer (which also has both C >and D drives)? for sharing. I believe that's done by right clicking on the Vista drive and selecting properties. There should be a tab that allows you to enable sharing. Quote: > >Thank you. I really appreciate your assistance. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? "andy" <bogusaddress@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > You have to map each drive one at a time, so change C$ to > D$. Quote: > To be able to map Vista drives, you have to enable the > Vista drives > for sharing. I believe that's done by right clicking on > the Vista > drive and selecting properties. There should be a tab that > allows you > to enable sharing. expected, except that there is an additional step you left out that is now causing me a problem. Login and password. When I was first following your directions to enable the Vista computer to see the drives on the W2000 computer there was an intermediate screen that asked for login and password. I gave the login I use on both computers, and the most common password I use. Moved forward smoothly and enabled the Vista computer to see both the C and D drives on the W2000 computer. Then I asked you about enabling the W2000 computer to see the Vista computer drives, and I again followed all the steps. When the W2000 computer asks for the login and password I'm unable to enter a combination that works. I have used my regular login, and my administrator login, and the 5 passwords that I have used on these two computers - in all combinations and no combination works. You have done a good job in getting me where I am, and I really appreciate that. I also realize that password protection/cracking is a completely different area of expertise. Thanks so much for what you have enabled me to do thus far, and if you have any pointers to solving the password problem (such as, which newsgroup might be appropriate) please send them along. Thanks again. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:46:03 -0800, "CWLee" <cdubyalee@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >"andy" <bogusaddress@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >> You have to map each drive one at a time, so change C$ to >> D$. >(and) > Quote: >> To be able to map Vista drives, you have to enable the >> Vista drives >> for sharing. I believe that's done by right clicking on >> the Vista >> drive and selecting properties. There should be a tab that >> allows you >> to enable sharing. >Thanks, Andy. I did that, and things worked the way you >expected, except that there is an additional step you left >out that is now causing me a problem. Login and password. > >When I was first following your directions to enable the >Vista computer to see the drives on the W2000 computer there >was an intermediate screen that asked for login and >password. I gave the login I use on both computers, and the >most common password I use. Moved forward smoothly and >enabled the Vista computer to see both the C and D drives on >the W2000 computer. > >Then I asked you about enabling the W2000 computer to see >the Vista computer drives, and I again followed all the >steps. When the W2000 computer asks for the login and >password I'm unable to enter a combination that works. I >have used my regular login, and my administrator login, and >the 5 passwords that I have used on these two computers - in >all combinations and no combination works. to just the drive letter, so it would be C instead of C$. Quote: > >You have done a good job in getting me where I am, and I >really appreciate that. I also realize that password >protection/cracking is a completely different area of >expertise. Thanks so much for what you have enabled me to >do thus far, and if you have any pointers to solving the >password problem (such as, which newsgroup might be >appropriate) please send them along. > >Thanks again. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? "Andy" <1@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Are you specifying the correct Vista share name? It > normally defaults > to just the drive letter, so it would be C instead of C$. That did it! I had been typing \\computername\C$, and now when I left the $ off it worked the way I wanted. If you are in the Los Angeles area I'd like to buy you a beer or two. There are two items I'm just curious about, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over them. If you can shed any light on them I'd appreciate it. 1. The icons on the Vista computer that appear next to the listing of the drives on the W2000 computer recently acquired red X marks, which suggests that there is no connection - but in fact there is. I don't know why the red Xs are there, or how to get rid of them. 2. When I first hooked up the ethernet cable and properly used the network discovery and file sharing, the W2000 computer went on-line via the Vista computer which was on-line via a dial-up connection. Later, since I have enabled (thanks again for your assistance) each computer to see the drives on the other computer, the W2000 computer is no longer on-line. I wonder why the ethernet cable served both computers at first as a connection to the Internet, but now does not carry that signal for the W2000 computer. Have a good weekend, and let me know when and where I can buy you a beer. Thanks again. ============================== Quote: > Quote: >> >>You have done a good job in getting me where I am, and I >>really appreciate that. I also realize that password >>protection/cracking is a completely different area of >>expertise. Thanks so much for what you have enabled me to >>do thus far, and if you have any pointers to solving the >>password problem (such as, which newsgroup might be >>appropriate) please send them along. >> >>Thanks again. |
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| | Re: Vista/W2000 Ethernet Connection? On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:34:55 -0800, "CWLee" <cdubyalee@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >"Andy" <1@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >> Are you specifying the correct Vista share name? It >> normally defaults >> to just the drive letter, so it would be C instead of C$. >Damn you're good! > >That did it! I had been typing \\computername\C$, and now >when I left the $ off it worked the way I wanted. If you >are in the Los Angeles area I'd like to buy you a beer or >two. > >There are two items I'm just curious about, and I'm not >going to lose any sleep over them. If you can shed any >light on them I'd appreciate it. > >1. The icons on the Vista computer that appear next to the >listing of the drives on the W2000 computer recently >acquired red X marks, which suggests that there is no >connection - but in fact there is. I don't know why the red >Xs are there, or how to get rid of them. for a while, but they don't bother me. Quote: > >2. When I first hooked up the ethernet cable and properly >used the network discovery and file sharing, the W2000 >computer went on-line via the Vista computer which was >on-line via a dial-up connection. Later, since I have >enabled (thanks again for your assistance) each computer to >see the drives on the other computer, the W2000 computer is >no longer on-line. I wonder why the ethernet cable served >both computers at first as a connection to the Internet, but >now does not carry that signal for the W2000 computer. cause the internet connection to fail. What I would try is to disable ICS in the dial-up connection properties. Then enable it again. Quote: > >Have a good weekend, and let me know when and where I can >buy you a beer. > >Thanks again. > >============================== > Quote: >> Quote: >>> >>>You have done a good job in getting me where I am, and I >>>really appreciate that. I also realize that password >>>protection/cracking is a completely different area of >>>expertise. Thanks so much for what you have enabled me to >>>do thus far, and if you have any pointers to solving the >>>password problem (such as, which newsgroup might be >>>appropriate) please send them along. >>> >>>Thanks again. |
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