Vista - Does a clean installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?

03-05-2008

Hi all,

I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's got
a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with Vista
Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this very
moment).

He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech
support group of a company making some software he's been trying to install
since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem as his
laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his system32
folder. I find that *very* strange, since, as far as I can tell, all
Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at least
msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows components that
would be broken without it.

I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for
myself, but can anyone confirm whether a *clean* Vista (32-bit) machine
includes those files or not under their system32 folder?

**.Joe** · 03-05-2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Homer J. Simpson

Hi all,

I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's got
a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with Vista
Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this very
moment).

He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech
support group of a company making some software he's been trying to install
since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem as his
laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his system32
folder. I find that *very* strange, since, as far as I can tell, all
Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at least
msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows components that
would be broken without it.

I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for
myself, but can anyone confirm whether a *clean* Vista (32-bit) machine
includes those files or not under their system32 folder?

Welcome to the forums!

You'll need the Vista DVD to do a clean install of the OS.

More information about doing a clean install can be found here:

Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista

Let us know if this was helpful to you.

03-05-2008

I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17
and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32
they are both dated 11/02/2006

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"Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's
> got a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with
> Vista Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this
> very moment).
>
> He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech
> support group of a company making some software he's been trying to
> install since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem
> as his laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his
> system32 folder. I find that *very* strange, since, as far as I can tell,
> all Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at
> least msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows
> components that would be broken without it.
>
> I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for
> myself, but can anyone confirm whether a *clean* Vista (32-bit) machine
> includes those files or not under their system32 folder?
>

03-05-2008

What kind of answer is that Joe??????
Do not reply next time if you do not know the answer.
Save some bandwidth.
Jack

".Joe" <Joe.35t690@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:Joe.35t690@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...

Quote:

>
> Homer J. Simpson;635673 Wrote:

Quote:

>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's
>> got
>> a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with
>> Vista
>> Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this very
>> moment).
>>
>> He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech
>> support group of a company making some software he's been trying to
>> install
>> since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem as his
>> laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his system32
>> folder. I find that *very* strange, since, as far as I can tell, all
>> Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at
>> least
>> msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows components
>> that
>> would be broken without it.
>>
>> I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for
>> myself, but can anyone confirm whether a *clean* Vista (32-bit) machine
>> includes those files or not under their system32 folder?

>
> Welcome to the forums!
>
> You'll need the Vista DVD to do a clean install of the OS.
>
> More information about doing a clean install can be found here:
>
> Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista
>
> Let us know if this was helpful to you.
>
>
> --
> Joe
>
> _[image:
> http://uswave.net/joetmvx64.png]
> (\"http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=17621\")_
> _CPU-Z_Verified (\"http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=323179\")_

03-05-2008

>I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17

Quote:

> and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32
> they are both dated 11/02/2006

Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions.

I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that
machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely,
positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++
runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from.
Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for
myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a
virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs.

03-05-2008

Yes, I've installed all of my programs since then.... sorry.

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"Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OzbIOXufIHA.4476@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17
>> and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32
>> they are both dated 11/02/2006

>
> Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions.
>
> I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that
> machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely,
> positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++
> runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from.
> Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for
> myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a
> virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs.
>

03-05-2008

I did not install any programs yet and there are these files in \System32
folder.
I have Vista Home Premium.
Jack

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OzbIOXufIHA.4476@xxxxxx

Quote:

> >I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17
>> and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32
>> they are both dated 11/02/2006

>
> Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions.
>
> I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that
> machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely,
> positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++
> runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from.
> Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for
> myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a
> virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs.
>

03-05-2008

Homer, it would be much simpler if you told us what the error message was
when trying to install the program!!!
Not waffling on about what some Help desk has said about a problem?????????!
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

"Homer J. Simpson" wrote:

Quote:

> >I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17
> > and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32
> > they are both dated 11/02/2006

>
> Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions.
>
> I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that
> machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely,
> positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++
> runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from.
> Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for
> myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a
> virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs.
>
>
>

03-05-2008

I believe they are both win system files

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OzbIOXufIHA.4476@xxxxxx

Quote:

> >I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17
>> and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32
>> they are both dated 11/02/2006

>
> Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions.
>
> I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that
> machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely,
> positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++
> runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from.
> Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for
> myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a
> virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs.
>

03-05-2008

>I did not install any programs yet and there are these files in \System32

Quote:

>folder.
> I have Vista Home Premium.
> Jack

Thanks Jack.

03-05-2008	#1 (permalink)
Homer J. Simpson n/a posts	*Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** Hi all, I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's got a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with Vista Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this very moment). He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech support group of a company making some software he's been trying to install since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem as his laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his system32 folder. I find that very strange, since, as far as I can tell, all Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at least msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows components that would be broken without it. I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for myself, but can anyone confirm whether a clean Vista (32-bit) machine includes those files or not under their system32 folder?
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#2 (permalink)
.Joe Windows 7 RC 916 posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll? Quote: Originally Posted by Homer J. Simpson** Hi all, I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's got a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with Vista Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this very moment). He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech support group of a company making some software he's been trying to install since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem as his laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his system32 folder. I find that very strange, since, as far as I can tell, all Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at least msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows components that would be broken without it. I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for myself, but can anyone confirm whether a clean Vista (32-bit) machine includes those files or not under their system32 folder? Welcome to the forums! You'll need the Vista DVD to do a clean install of the OS. More information about doing a clean install can be found here: Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista Let us know if this was helpful to you.
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#3 (permalink)
Dave n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17 and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32 they are both dated 11/02/2006 -- http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview "Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ekF5B2tfIHA.5620@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi all, > > I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's > got a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with > Vista Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this > very moment). > > He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech > support group of a company making some software he's been trying to > install since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem > as his laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his > system32 folder. I find that very strange, since, as far as I can tell, > all Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at > least msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows > components that would be broken without it. > > I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for > myself, but can anyone confirm whether a clean Vista (32-bit) machine > includes those files or not under their system32 folder? >
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#4 (permalink)
Jack n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** What kind of answer is that Joe?????? Do not reply next time if you do not know the answer. Save some bandwidth. Jack ".Joe" <Joe.35t690@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:Joe.35t690@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net... Quote: > > Homer J. Simpson;635673 Wrote: Quote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm investigating a strange problem on behalf of a family member...he's >> got >> a brand new HP laptop, less than a month old, that came preloaded with >> Vista >> Home Premium (I believe--I don't have access to the laptop at this very >> moment). >> >> He's been spending a fair amount of time trading emails with the tech >> support group of a company making some software he's been trying to >> install >> since he got his laptop. They've finally identified the problem as his >> laptop missing two files, msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll, from his system32 >> folder. I find that very strange, since, as far as I can tell, all >> Windows versions in recent years have shipped with these files--or at >> least >> msvcrt.dll--and my thought is that there's a lot of Windows components >> that >> would be broken without it. >> >> I don't have a Vista machine or Vista discs so I can't verify this for >> myself, but can anyone confirm whether a clean Vista (32-bit) machine >> includes those files or not under their system32 folder? > > Welcome to the forums! > > You'll need the Vista DVD to do a clean install of the OS. > > More information about doing a clean install can be found here: > > Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista > > Let us know if this was helpful to you. > > > -- > Joe > > _[image: > http://uswave.net/joetmvx64.png] > (\"http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=17621\")_ > _CPU-Z_Verified (\"http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=323179\")_
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#5 (permalink)
Homer J. Simpson n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** >I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17 Quote: > and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32 > they are both dated 11/02/2006 Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions. I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely, positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++ runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from. Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs.
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#6 (permalink)
Dave n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** Yes, I've installed all of my programs since then.... sorry. -- http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview "Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OzbIOXufIHA.4476@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >>I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17 >> and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32 >> they are both dated 11/02/2006 > > Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions. > > I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that > machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely, > positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++ > runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from. > Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for > myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a > virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs. >
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#7 (permalink)
Jack n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** I did not install any programs yet and there are these files in \System32 folder. I have Vista Home Premium. Jack "Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OzbIOXufIHA.4476@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: > >I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17 >> and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32 >> they are both dated 11/02/2006 > > Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions. > > I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that > machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely, > positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++ > runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from. > Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for > myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a > virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs. >
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#8 (permalink)
Mick Murphy n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and ms** Homer, it would be much simpler if you told us what the error message was when trying to install the program!!! Not waffling on about what some Help desk has said about a problem?????????! -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Homer J. Simpson" wrote: Quote: Quote: > >I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17 > > and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32 > > they are both dated 11/02/2006 > > Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions. > > I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that > machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely, > positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++ > runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from. > Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for > myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a > virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs. > > >
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#9 (permalink)
DL n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** I believe they are both win system files "Homer J. Simpson" <root@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OzbIOXufIHA.4476@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: > >I did a clean re-install of VHP on Feb 17 >> and I have both of those files in C:\Windows\System32 >> they are both dated 11/02/2006 > > Thanks Dave. This pretty much confirms my suspicions. > > I have a question though--have you installed any other software on that > machine since reinstalling Vista itself? I need to be absolutely, > positively certain, and if any third-party app includes the Visual C++ > runtime distributables, then this could be where those files are from. > Sorry to sound anal about it, normally I'd try to find these answers for > myself and would take the time to do a clean install (for example) in a > virtual machine, but I don't have any Vista discs. >
My System Specs

03-05-2008	#10 (permalink)
Homer J. Simpson n/a posts	*Re: Does a clean* installation of Vista include msvcrt.dll and msvcirt.dll?** >I did not install any programs yet and there are these files in \System32 Quote: >folder. > I have Vista Home Premium. > Jack Thanks Jack.
My System Specs

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