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03-24-2008   #1
Radical Ronald


 
 

Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

I had to format my HDD and re-instal Vista Ultimate OEM... it wont install.
Gets to the final stages of install and then just never completes it.
Does anyone know what I need to do to get my media centre working again?

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03-25-2008   #2


Vista Home Premium x64 Sp1
 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

I have similar problem and I am desesperate , It's been the 4th time I am trying to install
Vista x64 and after reformat the Partition where I want to install it during installation when PC restart for configuration Vista stays for hours on the load screen (the one with just the name of microsoft and the bar with some kind of green think moving from one side to the other of the bar). In each installation I always put No authomatic registry because I was worry of not being able to reinstall if some problem occurs (wasn't wrong!)

So now I am thinking:
- Is it possible that after the third time using the DVD to install it some kind of security pf Microsoft is bloking the next installation????? When activation is on authomatic it says that it will regitry after 3 days, I haven't put on authomatic, but my first intent of installation was 3 days ago!!!
- Could my HDD get damaged for so much formating?????
- Should I also reset CMOS before next intent of installation?????

-first install worked for about an hour and a Half I had time to install Battelfield 2 play few minutes on the Multiplayer (few minutes only because each time I was connecting to a server after few minute I got expluse by a Punkbuster message), I installed NOD32 (the version I have i use it on XP Pro and Vista x32) I reboot as the program ask for I've got a blue screen (for few second could not catch the text) and after that Vista will load only in Safe Mod with Network, I first desintall NOD32 thinking it was a compatibity problem with X64 but Vista will load untill first screen and after that stay with a black screen for for than 15 mn (reset PC after this period) and when it load further after black screen comes again the blue one. I decide to Reformat from XP the Partition where I install Vista x64 and install again,
- this time (second time) the pleasure was for less than an hour, when I switch to Crossfire Mod that same problem again, blue screen and only Safe Mod will load fine, Because in this mod you can not access the catalist to unable Crossfire, I decide to do my third installation of Vista.
But this time No NOD32, NO Crossfire and less than 10 minutes came again the blue screen.
Weird! In the event log I notice an error standing for a Symantec Software problem, but I do not have any Symantec program installed, the ones coming with the different disc of device I did not install them!


any solution you know about.

Last edited by PaxeSalute; 03-25-2008 at 02:16 AM..
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03-25-2008   #3
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

You can hit F8 during the last load and see if safe or low resolution mode
works. If so, you can load your latest video drivers either there or at the
load drivers button where you select the drive to install on. The location
you describe is the driver loading and video is the most likely


"PaxeSalute" <PaxeSalute.36thw4@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:PaxeSalute.36thw4@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> I have similar problem and I am desesperate , It's been the 4th time I
> am trying to install
> Vista x64 and after reformat the Partition where I want to install it
> during installation when PC restart for configuration Vista stays for
> hours on the load screen (the one with just the name of microsoft and
> the bar with some kind of green think moving from one side to the other
> of the bar). In each installation I always put No authomatic registry
> because I was worry of not being able to reinstall if some problem
> occurs (wasn't wrong!)
>
> So now I am thinking:
> - Is it possible that after the third time using the DVD to install it
> some kind of security pf Microsoft is bloking the next installation?????
> When activation is on authomatic it says that it will regitry after 3
> days, I haven't put on authomatic, but my first intent of installation
> was 3 days ago!!!
> - Could my HDD get damaged for so much formating?????
> - Should I also reset CMOS before next intent of installation?????
>
> -first install worked for about an hour and a Half I had time to
> install Battelfield 2 play few minutes on the Multiplayer (few minutes
> only because each time I was connecting to a server after few minute I
> got expluse by a Punkbuster message), I installed NOD32 (the version I
> have i use it on XP Pro and Vista x32) I reboot as the program ask for
> I've got a blue screen (for few second could not catch the text) and
> after that Vista will load only in Safe Mod with Network, I first
> desintall NOD32 thinking it was a compatibity problem with X64 but Vista
> will load untill first screen and after that stay with a black screen
> for for than 15 mn (reset PC after this period) and when it load further
> after black screen comes again the blue one. I decide to Reformat from
> XP the Partition where I install Vista x64 and install again,
> - this time (second time) the pleasure was for less than an hour, when
> I switch to Crossfire Mod that same problem again, blue screen and only
> Safe Mod will load fine, Because in this mod you can not access the
> catalist to unable Crossfire, I decide to do my third installation of
> Vista.
> But this time No NOD32, NO Crossfire and less than 10 minutes came
> again the blue screen.
> Weird! In the event log I notice an error standing for a Symantec
> Software problem, but I do not have any Symantec program installed, the
> ones coming with the different disc of device I did not install them!
>
>
> any solution you know about.
>
>
> --
> PaxeSalute
>
> '[IMG]'
> (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...c/progress.gif)
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03-25-2008   #4


Vista Home Premium x64 Sp1
 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

Thank you John,

I will try the F8 tonight and keep you inform if it worked. I suppose I'll have to wait BIOS finishes to post since it offers also a "F8" option to select the Boot drive.
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03-25-2008   #5
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

Does make it tricky, but yes it would be just after the POST. You could
just go ahead and try the drivers at the load drivers, depending on where
you are.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:urhU%232njIHA.4868@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You can hit F8 during the last load and see if safe or low resolution mode
> works. If so, you can load your latest video drivers either there or at
> the load drivers button where you select the drive to install on. The
> location you describe is the driver loading and video is the most likely
>
>
> "PaxeSalute" <PaxeSalute.36thw4@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:PaxeSalute.36thw4@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>>
>> I have similar problem and I am desesperate , It's been the 4th time I
>> am trying to install
>> Vista x64 and after reformat the Partition where I want to install it
>> during installation when PC restart for configuration Vista stays for
>> hours on the load screen (the one with just the name of microsoft and
>> the bar with some kind of green think moving from one side to the other
>> of the bar). In each installation I always put No authomatic registry
>> because I was worry of not being able to reinstall if some problem
>> occurs (wasn't wrong!)
>>
>> So now I am thinking:
>> - Is it possible that after the third time using the DVD to install it
>> some kind of security pf Microsoft is bloking the next installation?????
>> When activation is on authomatic it says that it will regitry after 3
>> days, I haven't put on authomatic, but my first intent of installation
>> was 3 days ago!!!
>> - Could my HDD get damaged for so much formating?????
>> - Should I also reset CMOS before next intent of installation?????
>>
>> -first install worked for about an hour and a Half I had time to
>> install Battelfield 2 play few minutes on the Multiplayer (few minutes
>> only because each time I was connecting to a server after few minute I
>> got expluse by a Punkbuster message), I installed NOD32 (the version I
>> have i use it on XP Pro and Vista x32) I reboot as the program ask for
>> I've got a blue screen (for few second could not catch the text) and
>> after that Vista will load only in Safe Mod with Network, I first
>> desintall NOD32 thinking it was a compatibity problem with X64 but Vista
>> will load untill first screen and after that stay with a black screen
>> for for than 15 mn (reset PC after this period) and when it load further
>> after black screen comes again the blue one. I decide to Reformat from
>> XP the Partition where I install Vista x64 and install again,
>> - this time (second time) the pleasure was for less than an hour, when
>> I switch to Crossfire Mod that same problem again, blue screen and only
>> Safe Mod will load fine, Because in this mod you can not access the
>> catalist to unable Crossfire, I decide to do my third installation of
>> Vista.
>> But this time No NOD32, NO Crossfire and less than 10 minutes came
>> again the blue screen.
>> Weird! In the event log I notice an error standing for a Symantec
>> Software problem, but I do not have any Symantec program installed, the
>> ones coming with the different disc of device I did not install them!
>>
>>
>> any solution you know about.
>>
>>
>> --
>> PaxeSalute
>>
>> '[IMG]'
>> (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...c/progress.gif)
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
03-25-2008   #6


Vista Home Premium x64 Sp1
 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

John,

So I tried the "F8" and successfully the screen with the different booting options, but with none of one I got vista to load completely, having the same symptom same black screen with green bar for more than 10 minutes.
with some option after getting to this screen there was no more activity from the system (front light with no activity) with some other same screen but system light was staying still.
Also try with a recovery disc I've got the ISO on the web, to try to repair, it loaded but no better result, just that some kind of report first was mentioning:
"Could not find L:\Sources\Install.wim error code 0x80070002"
L being my DVD writer.

Also After intent of repair option I had a nother message mentioning:"May be I connected a New device such as External Audio device, desconect on try again" actually yes between the third and 4th intent of iinstallation I connected a 5.1 Speaker system while I was on Windows XP my first OS on this dual boot PC.

Si I am trying to think with the poor knowledge on PC.
I notice when I format the Partition on second HDD where Vista was first installed and got BSoD that the first HDD has some spacde occupated on first Partition C (on this 1st HDD I have on second Partition Windows XP PRo Sp2 installed).
So I suppose the Booting Files of Vista were installed on C and have a problem which do not allow Vista to completly load.

I was thinking to Reformat also this partition C but I suposes the Boot Files there must be also mixed with Boot file of Windows XP, so if I format I 'won't be able to boot also with the XP OS.

What do you think from your expertise?
Win XP is working just great and I have it full installed with all drivers and everything is working fine, I 'd rather not loose this fact.

Is there a way to eliminate in C: all Boot files corresponding to Vista to do a full clean installation, with-out spoiling my XP?

Thks in advance for your answer
My System SpecsSystem Spec
03-26-2008   #7
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

If you got the error message while using the recovery disk, the file
mentioned is left off as that is the install image.
You are still in the driver area, so you are going to have to determine
which driver is hanging your install.
Is this a first time install (were you able to ever install on the current
machine)?. If so, think about any hardware you added since the successful
install.
If this is a new install and the machine hasn't had a successful install,
the safest approach is to disconnect as much hardware during the install as
you can. Start with USB devices. Wireless mouse and keyboard are
notorious. Use a PS2 or at least a connected to the MOBO pair. With no USB
devices , do you have any PCI or PCI-e devices. What are they? Rarely a
problem, but consider them if you can't install after removing the USB
devices. Everything can be installed back after you get a successful
install, except the ram which requires a hotfix before you can add back to 4
gig or more.
Make sure you have 2 gig of ram or less installed in the computer during the
install.
Personally, I would add the latest video driver at the load driver button
screen where you select the installation location.
Any windows install will put the boot files on the 'system' drive and you
are having no problems with booting, as your problems come after Windows has
started and before it moves from the loading stage into the desktop and
program loading stage.
Post your computer specs as they may help someone spot a specific problem
area.

"PaxeSalute" <PaxeSalute.36v254@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:PaxeSalute.36v254@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> John,
>
> So I tried the "F8" and successfully the screen with the different
> booting options, but with none of one I got vista to load completely,
> having the same symptom same black screen with green bar for more than
> 10 minutes.
> with some option after getting to this screen there was no more
> activity from the system (front light with no activity) with some other
> same screen but system light was staying still.
> Also try with a recovery disc I've got the ISO on the web, to try to
> repair, it loaded but no better result, just that some kind of report
> first was mentioning:
> "Could not find L:\Sources\Install.wim error code 0x80070002"
> L being my DVD writer.
>
> Also After intent of repair option I had a nother message
> mentioning:"May be I connected a New device such as External Audio
> device, desconect on try again" actually yes between the third and 4th
> intent of iinstallation I connected a 5.1 Speaker system while I was on
> Windows XP my first OS on this dual boot PC.
>
> Si I am trying to think with the poor knowledge on PC.
> I notice when I format the Partition on second HDD where Vista was
> first installed and got BSoD that the first HDD has some spacde
> occupated on first Partition C (on this 1st HDD I have on second
> Partition Windows XP PRo Sp2 installed).
> So I suppose the Booting Files of Vista were installed on C and have a
> problem which do not allow Vista to completly load.
>
> I was thinking to Reformat also this partition C but I suposes the Boot
> Files there must be also mixed with Boot file of Windows XP, so if I
> format I 'won't be able to boot also with the XP OS.
>
> What do you think from your expertise?
> Win XP is working just great and I have it full installed with all
> drivers and everything is working fine, I 'd rather not loose this fact.
>
> Is there a way to eliminate in C: all Boot files corresponding to Vista
> to do a full clean installation, with-out spoiling my XP?
>
> Thks in advance for your answer
>
>
> --
> PaxeSalute
>
> '[IMG]'
> (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...c/progress.gif)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
03-26-2008   #8


Vista Home Premium x64 Sp1
 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

Thks John,

To answer your questions:
-[Is this a first time install] No I already installed it twice on this machine but each time it works for 1 hour and after give me a BSoD (to fast to read before rebooting) but it was allowing me to get in Safe Mode w/ Network.

-[Start with USB devices. Wireless mouse and keyboard are
notorious] actually yes since the first install I have an USB mouse & keyboard I will try to install with PS/2 Keyboard unfortunatly this MoBo has only one but I think I can mange the installation without a Mouse.

[do you have any PCI or PCI-e devices] Yes 2 PCI-E Graphic card.

-[Make sure you have 2 gig of ram ] actually I have 8GB installed and I already did a Memtest overnight and no error appeared. I will try also with just a stick of 2GB or 2 of 2GB because there are in dual channel so I am not sure that I have to put minimum 2 stick.
Note that since first install (when it worked for an hour) I had the 8gb and Vista recognized them,I will try if eliminating USB device option does not allow me to load.

[hotfix before you can add back to 4
gig or more.] actually I already download this fix on my Laptop because I read about this problem on the forum. So I will apply a.s.a. Vista load successfully. Evenso I do not think that the original problem of BSoD was due to this problem because in the first hour Vista worked it Updates completly (I think some 60 update files were loaded)

[Post your computer specs ] Here they are:
MB: ASUS P5K-E WIFI AP 775
BIOS: Beta V 1006
CPU: INTEL Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping Kentsfield 2.40GHz 8MB L2 LGA 775
RAM: 8 gb = OCZ Vista Upgrade 4GB(2x2GB) DDR2-800 CL 5-6-6-18 Dual Channel Kit
Video 1 : MSI Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDMI HDCP & CrossFire
Video 2 : MSI Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDMI HDCP & CrossFire
HD 1 : Maxtor 160GB SATA 3.0GB
HD 2 : Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
DVD : LiteOn DVD Writer 20x Lightscribe Sata
Case: Raidmax Ninja ATXN819WBP
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750W
OS 1 : Win XP PRO Sp2 on HD1
OS 2 : Vista Home Pre 64 bits (Not installed yet)
Monitor : Samsung SyncMaster 226WB connected to DVI


Thank you very much for your time and your great help
My System SpecsSystem Spec
03-26-2008   #9
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

If it starts for you, as you now state, there are two things you might try.
1. Turn off automatic restart. That way you will see the BSOD screen with
the
code and error message that you can google or look up in the KB or post back
here. System
Properties/advanced/startup and uncheck auto restart.
2. Turn off updates. You may be getting a bad driver during the install or
after the install that causes the BSOD when it is installed. I did have
that problem on an nVidia chipset driver. You can manually go to Windows
update and select the non-driver updates, then do any driver updates one at
a time. You can then back out any that cause problems. I would suspect the
Radeon driver from WU and would not install one if available from there.
Download the latest one from ATI directly and install it. Radeon drivers
included in Vista have caused many installs to abort. WU drivers are often
older versions.

In answer to your first item, that you can get into safe mode, which loads
minimal drivers, points very strongly that you have a driver problem.

I wouldn't worry about taking out ram as that is applicable to certain
boards and as you have stated you got it to install once with all 8gig
installed. Also, you can probably use a usb mouse connected directly to the
MOBO with no problem.

"PaxeSalute" <PaxeSalute.36w743@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:PaxeSalute.36w743@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> Thks John,
>
> To answer your questions:
> -[Is this a first time install] No I already installed it twice on this
> machine but each time it works for 1 hour and after give me a BSoD (to
> fast to read before rebooting) but it was allowing me to get in Safe
> Mode w/ Network.
>
> -[Start with USB devices. Wireless mouse and keyboard are
> notorious] actually yes since the first install I have an USB mouse &
> keyboard I will try to install with PS/2 Keyboard unfortunatly this MoBo
> has only one but I think I can mange the installation without a Mouse.
>
> [do you have any PCI or PCI-e devices] Yes 2 PCI-E Graphic card.
>
> -[Make sure you have 2 gig of ram ] actually I have 8GB installed and I
> already did a Memtest overnight and no error appeared. I will try also
> with just a stick of 2GB or 2 of 2GB because there are in dual channel
> so I am not sure that I have to put minimum 2 stick.
> Note that since first install (when it worked for an hour) I had the
> 8gb and Vista recognized them,I will try if eliminating USB device
> option does not allow me to load.
>
> [hotfix before you can add back to 4
> gig or more.] actually I already download this fix on my Laptop because
> I read about this problem on the forum. So I will apply a.s.a. Vista
> load successfully. Evenso I do not think that the original problem of
> BSoD was due to this problem because in the first hour Vista worked it
> Updates completly (I think some 60 update files were loaded)
>
> [Post your computer specs ] Here they are:
> MB: ASUS P5K-E WIFI AP 775
> BIOS: Beta V 1006
> CPU: INTEL Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping Kentsfield 2.40GHz 8MB L2 LGA
> 775
> RAM: 8 gb = OCZ Vista Upgrade 4GB(2x2GB) DDR2-800 CL 5-6-6-18 Dual
> Channel Kit
> Video 1 : MSI Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDMI
> HDCP & CrossFire
> Video 2 : MSI Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDMI
> HDCP & CrossFire
> HD 1 : Maxtor 160GB SATA 3.0GB
> HD 2 : Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
> 3.0Gb/s
> DVD : LiteOn DVD Writer 20x Lightscribe Sata
> Case: Raidmax Ninja ATXN819WBP
> PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750W
> OS 1 : Win XP PRO Sp2 on HD1
> OS 2 : Vista Home Pre 64 bits (Not installed yet)
> Monitor : Samsung SyncMaster 226WB connected to DVI
>
>
> Thank you very much for your time and your great help
>
>
> --
> PaxeSalute
>
> '[IMG]'
> (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...c/progress.gif)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
03-26-2008   #10


Vista Home Premium x64 Sp1
 
 

Re: Problem re-installing Vista Ultimate OEM after formatting HDD

hi John,
Thank you so much.
Just about your last message [If it starts for you, as you now state, there are two things you might try] that was the first and second time I did the full installation, since than I tried to install it 3 more times and each time Vista won't load, neither in Safe mod or any other option appearing after pressing "F8".
So I have to try again:
1) Reformat through XP the Partition where Vista was installed
2) Try to Install again with no USB Keyboard to see if I can pass the Vista loading screen.
3) If successfull follow your indication regarding disabling Auto-Update and Automatic restart after BSoD. In this part I not so sure how to detect which Update could put me again in trouble? Should I install them one by one and as soon as I get another BSoD restart in Safe mode and un-install the last update and jump to the next one to install, and surf on the net and forums to see what the BSoD code error is standing for?

I will keep you inform.

Thks and sorry to bother you so much, but it is really frustrating to not be able to make your inversion working as it should.
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