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04-20-2008
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| | Re: reinstall Vista on a new Motherboard ??? On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:51:36 +1000, "Grey" <grey@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Yeah I thought that WOULD be the case but how stupid is that? > >Imagine you are the I.T. worker in a company where 20 new machines have been >delivered and you have to put the image done on Friday night for each >machine on that machine and have them ready to use by Monday so are working >over the weekend. You cant. You have to install Vista fresh then every >single program and all the other stuff each machine needs. Instead of taking >maybe an hour per machine, it is at least 2 with no real guarantee that you >haven't missed something as opposed to restoring an image to the new machine >which DOES guarantee you don't miss anything. > >To put it another way, Vista makes any company's imaging software - >including the backup program from MS - useless excepting in the case that >the machinery is exactly the same. > >MS must be trying to drive people away from Windows. No sane I.T. Manager >would put up with that rubbish! Vista. Vista uses a NEW imaging format, and Microsoft produces software just for such folks to easily install a single image on thousands of machines. This software is provided by Microsoft free-of-charge. Just download it. Quote: >"Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:%23ZmAOvuoIHA.4112@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hi Grey, >> >> There is no "repair installation" option in Vista like with XP and >> previous versions. It has naught to do with SP1. If the replacement >> motherboard and processor are of similar build to the original, then there >> is a chance that the original installation will boot on it. Otherwise, you >> are left with creating a new installation. There is no requirement to >> format as part of this process unless you are low on disk space (you'll >> need 15-20GB available), so if you are stuck with that option then simply >> don't and retrieve data from the original installation afterwards. to use clean partitions upon which to install OS's. I'm sure many others prefer this also. Parallel installations always seem so unstable to me. I would only use such an installation method if there were no other way to recover my data. Quote: Quote: >> -- >> Best of Luck, >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >> >> "Grey" <grey@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:OyzvATsoIHA.1240@xxxxxx Quote: >>> It would be nice if that were true. I just went through a dying >>> motherboard replacement on my own machine and tried to put the same Vista >>> Ultimate 64 installation with the new motherboard/CPU which were the only >>> things changed. It wont do it. You cannot repair install, so far as I can >>> find, since SP1 came out. >>> >>> Please prove me wrong. I really would prefer to be wrong in this case! >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> >>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup >>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:12 AM >>> Subject: Re: reinstall Vista on a new Motherboard ??? >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Provided you have sufficient free space remaining on the drive, you >>>> don't have to format. Setup will just move the old installation to a >>>> windows.old folder where you can later retrieve your data. Programs will >>>> still need to be reinstalled. >>>> >>>> You may find that if the hardware is closely related, that you will not >>>> need any reinstall. I would just try it first, before bothering to >>>> reinstall. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best of Luck, >>>> >>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> "pedmag2" <pedmag2@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:30A7B13F-BE06-4D9B-85D0-E16E18D68192@xxxxxx >>>>>I have Vista Ultima but my Motherboard was burn from electric problem I >>>>> going to install a new Motherboard, my hard drive and the other cards >>>>> are OK >>>>> they was check and tested , Is any way that I can do this and don't >>>>> have to >>>>> reformat the Hard Drive ?????? The new Motherboard is diferent then the >>>>> old >>>>> one, because I can no found the same MotherBoard, The CPU is OK and I >>>>> can use >>>>> for the new Motherboard >>>>> >>>>> Please any Help Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>> Please reply to the correct thread and article. ================================================ |
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04-23-2008
| #12 (permalink) |
| | Re: reinstall Vista on a new Motherboard ??? Thanks for the info but every MVP and everyone I have asked say different. Also my own experience is the same. You cant do it. I know that is at odds with what you say but nothing in that article you pointed out changed anything. My bet is that, as has happened with me on many occasions with XP, the hardware you changed to was similar enough. I have changed XP installations from what appears to be different hardware to a newer computer and for reasons that defy logic, no drivers needed changing, no repair install no activate all over again. Made no sense but as it cut down the time for the job, I didn't complain! "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8E669649-0273-4AFD-BD7A-A9B4B8C5C813@xxxxxx Quote: > It worked for me without any problem. > The MOBO on my Vista SP1 system failed and I replaced the MOBO and the CPU > with completely different models from a different manufacturer and it > booted up the first time without having done anything else to the original > HDD installation. It even automatically activated over the internet > without having to do phone activation. > > "Grey" <grey@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%237x28jyoIHA.420@xxxxxx Quote: >> Thanks for the links but nothing there changes the fact. >> >> You can NOT move a Vista installation that was working with no problems >> from one machine where, say, the motherboard died, to another machine >> with different motherboard, CPU and ram. The only way you CAN possibly >> move that installation is from the now dead machine to a machine with >> EXACTLY the same hardware. >> >> There is NO way you can survive with your current vista installation if >> the hardware fails. The data may be intact but Vista wont operate with >> that install on different hardware and there is no way around it. >> >> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:4C783C66-1FEC-4625-B69B-3EA63AEE6B00@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Here is one link that has several possible solutions: >>> >>> http://www.windowvistarepair.com/ >>> >>> Also AFAIK if you run a Repair Installation from your Vista installation >>> disk it will rewrite the boot sector if required and make some other >>> checks but as Rick pointed out it is not the same type of repair >>> installation that you could do with XP. >>> I have read some links that stated that running the Vista System File >>> checker (SFC.EXE) will perform some of the same types of checks that the >>> XP installation repair does. >>> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929833 >>> >>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:%23ZmAOvuoIHA.4112@xxxxxx >>>> Hi Grey, >>>> >>>> There is no "repair installation" option in Vista like with XP and >>>> previous versions. It has naught to do with SP1. If the replacement >>>> motherboard and processor are of similar build to the original, then >>>> there is a chance that the original installation will boot on it. >>>> Otherwise, you are left with creating a new installation. There is no >>>> requirement to format as part of this process unless you are low on >>>> disk space (you'll need 15-20GB available), so if you are stuck with >>>> that option then simply don't and retrieve data from the original >>>> installation afterwards. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best of Luck, >>>> >>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> "Grey" <grey@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:OyzvATsoIHA.1240@xxxxxx >>>>> It would be nice if that were true. I just went through a dying >>>>> motherboard replacement on my own machine and tried to put the same >>>>> Vista Ultimate 64 installation with the new motherboard/CPU which were >>>>> the only things changed. It wont do it. You cannot repair install, so >>>>> far as I can find, since SP1 came out. >>>>> >>>>> Please prove me wrong. I really would prefer to be wrong in this case! >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> >>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:12 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: reinstall Vista on a new Motherboard ??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Provided you have sufficient free space remaining on the drive, you >>>>>> don't have to format. Setup will just move the old installation to a >>>>>> windows.old folder where you can later retrieve your data. Programs >>>>>> will still need to be reinstalled. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may find that if the hardware is closely related, that you will >>>>>> not need any reinstall. I would just try it first, before bothering >>>>>> to reinstall. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best of Luck, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >>>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >>>>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "pedmag2" <pedmag2@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>>>> news:30A7B13F-BE06-4D9B-85D0-E16E18D68192@xxxxxx >>>>>>>I have Vista Ultima but my Motherboard was burn from electric >>>>>>>problem I >>>>>>> going to install a new Motherboard, my hard drive and the other >>>>>>> cards are OK >>>>>>> they was check and tested , Is any way that I can do this and don't >>>>>>> have to >>>>>>> reformat the Hard Drive ?????? The new Motherboard is diferent then >>>>>>> the old >>>>>>> one, because I can no found the same MotherBoard, The CPU is OK and >>>>>>> I can use >>>>>>> for the new Motherboard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please any Help Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> |
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04-23-2008
| #13 (permalink) |
| | Re: reinstall Vista on a new Motherboard ??? "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:2ucn041h19o2p4ko7di1g6j55mrm208rf2@xxxxxx Quote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:37:13 -0700, "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>Here is one link that has several possible solutions: >> >>http://www.windowvistarepair.com/ >> >>Also AFAIK if you run a Repair Installation from your Vista installation >>disk it will rewrite the boot sector if required and make some other >>checks >>but as Rick pointed out it is not the same type of repair installation >>that >>you could do with XP. >>I have read some links that stated that running the Vista System File >>checker (SFC.EXE) will perform some of the same types of checks that the >>XP >>installation repair does. > Great!!! NOW all the OP needs is a way to BOOT his machine to be able > to use the System File Checker. > > IF he is not able to boot the machine with his new Motherboard/CPU, he > will need to do a CLEAN INSTALLATION. > > XP allowed one to just do an inplace upgrade (i.e., "repair > installation"). This is not possible with Vista, sadly. > > Hopefully, he will have already backed up his data on an external > drive. > > > Donald L McDaniel > Please reply to the correct thread and article. > ================================================ Vista installed pre SP1 on that version's disks. It MAY be possible with Vista SP1 disks but MS even stopped the ability for a streamline to work so I wont know until I can get my hands on an original. |
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04-23-2008
| #14 (permalink) |
| | Re: reinstall Vista on a new Motherboard ??? "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:dbdn041edqrhv22q8rjdeqkofi8tb5c307@xxxxxx Quote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:51:36 +1000, "Grey" <grey@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>Yeah I thought that WOULD be the case but how stupid is that? >> >>Imagine you are the I.T. worker in a company where 20 new machines have >>been >>delivered and you have to put the image done on Friday night for each >>machine on that machine and have them ready to use by Monday so are >>working >>over the weekend. You cant. You have to install Vista fresh then every >>single program and all the other stuff each machine needs. Instead of >>taking >>maybe an hour per machine, it is at least 2 with no real guarantee that >>you >>haven't missed something as opposed to restoring an image to the new >>machine >>which DOES guarantee you don't miss anything. >> >>To put it another way, Vista makes any company's imaging software - >>including the backup program from MS - useless excepting in the case that >>the machinery is exactly the same. >> >>MS must be trying to drive people away from Windows. No sane I.T. Manager >>would put up with that rubbish! > I.T. Managers don't have to use the older system prep software with > Vista. Vista uses a NEW imaging format, and Microsoft produces > software just for such folks to easily install a single image on > thousands of machines. This software is provided by Microsoft > free-of-charge. Just download it. > Again - it DOESN'T WORK where the hardware has changed and as it probably DOES work where the hardware is the same, then the MS tool is useless anyway. |
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