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Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update
  1. #1


    Larry S. Guest

    Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update

    I have two computers running Vista Home Premium. When Service Pack 1 came
    out, my desktop, which is a clone I built myself, downloaded and installed
    Service Pack 1 without any problem, but my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop seems
    oblivious to Service Pack 1's existence. Although automatic update is on
    both computers with similar settings (full automatic update), and the laptop
    has downloaded a number of updates since then and keeps telling me the
    computer is up to date, I can't help wondering why Service Pack 1 hasn't
    downloaded and installed, and whether I should install it manually or just
    assume the computer has a good reason to not install it and leave it alone.
    Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
    --
    Larry S



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  2. #2


    DL Guest

    Re: Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update

    Learn how to cross post, as apposed to multi post

    "Larry S." <LarryS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:18145471-4D54-49D3-B54F-1746726234FB@xxxxxx

    >I have two computers running Vista Home Premium. When Service Pack 1 came
    > out, my desktop, which is a clone I built myself, downloaded and installed
    > Service Pack 1 without any problem, but my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop
    > seems
    > oblivious to Service Pack 1's existence. Although automatic update is on
    > both computers with similar settings (full automatic update), and the
    > laptop
    > has downloaded a number of updates since then and keeps telling me the
    > computer is up to date, I can't help wondering why Service Pack 1 hasn't
    > downloaded and installed, and whether I should install it manually or just
    > assume the computer has a good reason to not install it and leave it
    > alone.
    > Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
    > --
    > Larry S


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  3. #3


    Larry S. Guest

    Re: Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update

    Can you explain what you mean?
    --
    Larry S


    "DL" wrote:

    > Learn how to cross post, as apposed to multi post
    >
    > "Larry S." <LarryS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:18145471-4D54-49D3-B54F-1746726234FB@xxxxxx

    > >I have two computers running Vista Home Premium. When Service Pack 1 came
    > > out, my desktop, which is a clone I built myself, downloaded and installed
    > > Service Pack 1 without any problem, but my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop
    > > seems
    > > oblivious to Service Pack 1's existence. Although automatic update is on
    > > both computers with similar settings (full automatic update), and the
    > > laptop
    > > has downloaded a number of updates since then and keeps telling me the
    > > computer is up to date, I can't help wondering why Service Pack 1 hasn't
    > > downloaded and installed, and whether I should install it manually or just
    > > assume the computer has a good reason to not install it and leave it
    > > alone.
    > > Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
    > > --
    > > Larry S
    >
    >
    >

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  4. #4


    Dwarf Guest

    Re: Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update

    Hi Larry,

    Cross posting and multi posting are the same yet different. In both cases,
    your post appears in more than one group. However, the biggest difference is
    that when you cross post, a reply to your post in any of the groups is
    automatically added to your posts in the other group(s). That way, you can
    follow the replies to your post from any of the groups that you have entered
    it into. A reply to a multi posted thread only appears in the group in which
    it was posted. To crosspost, click on 'Advanced Options' at the bottom of the
    text input dialogue. You then need to enter the newsgroup name(s) into the
    dialogue box. To find out the name that needs to be inserted, hover over the
    groups in the left hand column (you may need to give this focus first). The
    tool tip that appears is the name that needs to be inserted. For example,
    this group is 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup' and
    'Windows Vista General Discussion' is
    'microsoft.public.windows.vista.general'. Each name should be separated by a
    comma.
    Dwarf

    "Larry S." wrote:

    > Can you explain what you mean?
    > --
    > Larry S
    >
    >
    > "DL" wrote:
    >

    > > Learn how to cross post, as apposed to multi post
    > >
    > > "Larry S." <LarryS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > news:18145471-4D54-49D3-B54F-1746726234FB@xxxxxx

    > > >I have two computers running Vista Home Premium. When Service Pack 1 came
    > > > out, my desktop, which is a clone I built myself, downloaded and installed
    > > > Service Pack 1 without any problem, but my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop
    > > > seems
    > > > oblivious to Service Pack 1's existence. Although automatic update is on
    > > > both computers with similar settings (full automatic update), and the
    > > > laptop
    > > > has downloaded a number of updates since then and keeps telling me the
    > > > computer is up to date, I can't help wondering why Service Pack 1 hasn't
    > > > downloaded and installed, and whether I should install it manually or just
    > > > assume the computer has a good reason to not install it and leave it
    > > > alone.
    > > > Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
    > > > --
    > > > Larry S
    > >
    > >
    > >

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  5. #5


    Larry S. Guest

    Re: Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update

    Hi "Dwarf",

    Thanks for your reply. It was extremely helpful. I'll give that a try next
    time I need to post a question.
    --
    Larry S


    "Dwarf" wrote:

    > Hi Larry,
    >
    > Cross posting and multi posting are the same yet different. In both cases,
    > your post appears in more than one group. However, the biggest difference is
    > that when you cross post, a reply to your post in any of the groups is
    > automatically added to your posts in the other group(s). That way, you can
    > follow the replies to your post from any of the groups that you have entered
    > it into. A reply to a multi posted thread only appears in the group in which
    > it was posted. To crosspost, click on 'Advanced Options' at the bottom of the
    > text input dialogue. You then need to enter the newsgroup name(s) into the
    > dialogue box. To find out the name that needs to be inserted, hover over the
    > groups in the left hand column (you may need to give this focus first). The
    > tool tip that appears is the name that needs to be inserted. For example,
    > this group is 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup' and
    > 'Windows Vista General Discussion' is
    > 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.general'. Each name should be separated by a
    > comma.
    > Dwarf
    >
    > "Larry S." wrote:
    >

    > > Can you explain what you mean?
    > > --
    > > Larry S
    > >
    > >
    > > "DL" wrote:
    > >

    > > > Learn how to cross post, as apposed to multi post
    > > >
    > > > "Larry S." <LarryS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > > news:18145471-4D54-49D3-B54F-1746726234FB@xxxxxx
    > > > >I have two computers running Vista Home Premium. When Service Pack 1 came
    > > > > out, my desktop, which is a clone I built myself, downloaded and installed
    > > > > Service Pack 1 without any problem, but my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop
    > > > > seems
    > > > > oblivious to Service Pack 1's existence. Although automatic update is on
    > > > > both computers with similar settings (full automatic update), and the
    > > > > laptop
    > > > > has downloaded a number of updates since then and keeps telling me the
    > > > > computer is up to date, I can't help wondering why Service Pack 1 hasn't
    > > > > downloaded and installed, and whether I should install it manually or just
    > > > > assume the computer has a good reason to not install it and leave it
    > > > > alone.
    > > > > Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
    > > > > --
    > > > > Larry S
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >

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  6. #6


    Dwarf Guest

    Re: Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update

    Hi Larry,

    I hope that made sense to you. To answer your original question, have you
    tried manually downloading the standalone version of SP1 and then installing
    it that way? I enclose links for all standalone versions of SP1, just pick
    the appropriate one. You can save the 32-bit versions onto a CD, however,
    because of their size, the 64-bit versions will need saving onto a DVD.
    Dwarf

    32-bit, 5 language
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-CB3D06D12674

    32-bit, All language
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...A-09146A0BA746

    64-bit, 5 language
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...B-D71EDA5EC07C

    64-bit, All language
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...6-dc0626dcdf10

    "Larry S." wrote:

    > Hi "Dwarf",
    >
    > Thanks for your reply. It was extremely helpful. I'll give that a try next
    > time I need to post a question.
    > --
    > Larry S
    >
    >
    > "Dwarf" wrote:
    >

    > > Hi Larry,
    > >
    > > Cross posting and multi posting are the same yet different. In both cases,
    > > your post appears in more than one group. However, the biggest difference is
    > > that when you cross post, a reply to your post in any of the groups is
    > > automatically added to your posts in the other group(s). That way, you can
    > > follow the replies to your post from any of the groups that you have entered
    > > it into. A reply to a multi posted thread only appears in the group in which
    > > it was posted. To crosspost, click on 'Advanced Options' at the bottom of the
    > > text input dialogue. You then need to enter the newsgroup name(s) into the
    > > dialogue box. To find out the name that needs to be inserted, hover over the
    > > groups in the left hand column (you may need to give this focus first). The
    > > tool tip that appears is the name that needs to be inserted. For example,
    > > this group is 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup' and
    > > 'Windows Vista General Discussion' is
    > > 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.general'. Each name should be separated by a
    > > comma.
    > > Dwarf
    > >
    > > "Larry S." wrote:
    > >

    > > > Can you explain what you mean?
    > > > --
    > > > Larry S
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "DL" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Learn how to cross post, as apposed to multi post
    > > > >
    > > > > "Larry S." <LarryS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > > > news:18145471-4D54-49D3-B54F-1746726234FB@xxxxxx
    > > > > >I have two computers running Vista Home Premium. When Service Pack 1 came
    > > > > > out, my desktop, which is a clone I built myself, downloaded and installed
    > > > > > Service Pack 1 without any problem, but my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop
    > > > > > seems
    > > > > > oblivious to Service Pack 1's existence. Although automatic update is on
    > > > > > both computers with similar settings (full automatic update), and the
    > > > > > laptop
    > > > > > has downloaded a number of updates since then and keeps telling me the
    > > > > > computer is up to date, I can't help wondering why Service Pack 1 hasn't
    > > > > > downloaded and installed, and whether I should install it manually or just
    > > > > > assume the computer has a good reason to not install it and leave it
    > > > > > alone.
    > > > > > Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Larry S
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >

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  7. #7


    Larry S. Guest

    Re: Vista Service Pack 1 and automatic update

    Thanks. I'm wondering, though, if I should download it, since I am not
    currently having any problems, and since starting to post my concerns, I've
    seen a number of posts regarding problems beginning after the service pack
    was installed.

    I actually did have one problem with the installation of the service pack on
    my desktop. I started getting blue screen crashes, and when it did boot up
    got messages about a driver problem with Conexant. I disabled my fax modem,
    and have not had any problems since then, except for not being able to fax
    directly from my computer. I checked with Conexant and they said their
    software was for a temporary fix only, and I should go to my modem
    manufacturer. I went to the Broadxent site, and tried to download the
    correct driver, but keep getting page error messages. Do you know anything
    about that? Is Broadxent still in business? Also considering that, would
    you recommend I take the risk of downloading to my laptop, or that I wait for
    awhile until any bugs get worked out?

    Thanks for your helpful information.
    --
    Larry S


    "Dwarf" wrote:

    > Hi Larry,
    >
    > I hope that made sense to you. To answer your original question, have you
    > tried manually downloading the standalone version of SP1 and then installing
    > it that way? I enclose links for all standalone versions of SP1, just pick
    > the appropriate one. You can save the 32-bit versions onto a CD, however,
    > because of their size, the 64-bit versions will need saving onto a DVD.
    > Dwarf
    >
    > 32-bit, 5 language
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-CB3D06D12674
    >
    > 32-bit, All language
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...A-09146A0BA746
    >
    > 64-bit, 5 language
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...B-D71EDA5EC07C
    >
    > 64-bit, All language
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...6-dc0626dcdf10
    >
    > "Larry S." wrote:
    >

    > > Hi "Dwarf",
    > >
    > > Thanks for your reply. It was extremely helpful. I'll give that a try next
    > > time I need to post a question.
    > > --
    > > Larry S
    > >
    > >
    > > "Dwarf" wrote:
    > >

    > > > Hi Larry,
    > > >
    > > > Cross posting and multi posting are the same yet different. In both cases,
    > > > your post appears in more than one group. However, the biggest difference is
    > > > that when you cross post, a reply to your post in any of the groups is
    > > > automatically added to your posts in the other group(s). That way, you can
    > > > follow the replies to your post from any of the groups that you have entered
    > > > it into. A reply to a multi posted thread only appears in the group in which
    > > > it was posted. To crosspost, click on 'Advanced Options' at the bottom of the
    > > > text input dialogue. You then need to enter the newsgroup name(s) into the
    > > > dialogue box. To find out the name that needs to be inserted, hover over the
    > > > groups in the left hand column (you may need to give this focus first). The
    > > > tool tip that appears is the name that needs to be inserted. For example,
    > > > this group is 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup' and
    > > > 'Windows Vista General Discussion' is
    > > > 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.general'. Each name should be separated by a
    > > > comma.
    > > > Dwarf
    > > >
    > > > "Larry S." wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Can you explain what you mean?
    > > > > --
    > > > > Larry S
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "DL" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Learn how to cross post, as apposed to multi post
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Larry S." <LarryS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:18145471-4D54-49D3-B54F-1746726234FB@xxxxxx
    > > > > > >I have two computers running Vista Home Premium. When Service Pack 1 came
    > > > > > > out, my desktop, which is a clone I built myself, downloaded and installed
    > > > > > > Service Pack 1 without any problem, but my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop
    > > > > > > seems
    > > > > > > oblivious to Service Pack 1's existence. Although automatic update is on
    > > > > > > both computers with similar settings (full automatic update), and the
    > > > > > > laptop
    > > > > > > has downloaded a number of updates since then and keeps telling me the
    > > > > > > computer is up to date, I can't help wondering why Service Pack 1 hasn't
    > > > > > > downloaded and installed, and whether I should install it manually or just
    > > > > > > assume the computer has a good reason to not install it and leave it
    > > > > > > alone.
    > > > > > > Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
    > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > Larry S
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >

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