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Old 07-03-2008   #1 (permalink)
fellfrosch


 
 

Dual booting XP and Vista

Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro on both
(its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then upgrade
one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work fine?

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Old 07-03-2008   #2 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

RE: Dual booting XP and Vista

The licence is for ONE installation.
The answer is: NO.


--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"fellfrosch" wrote:
Quote:

> Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro on both
> (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then upgrade
> one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work fine?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-03-2008   #3 (permalink)
Mickey Mouse


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista

Interesting question and even more an interesting Answer from Mick.
Actually, the license is for one computer. That is, two computers will not
be running the same equipment.
Mick, if it's on the same computer then the Microsoft verification should
pass shouldn't it?
Because the equipment serial numbers that Microsoft check eg, harddrive, rom
and what ever else should be the same. Personally, I don't know if you can
install Windows XP on both harddrives but given the above I would think it
would be legitament. I'd appreciate your thoughts on my comments.

Also, "fellfrosch" Why not just upgrade to Vista say on C: drive and then
post again asking if you can now install XP on your D: drive?
Once again, I don't know if you can do that.

Regards Mickey




"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> The licence is for ONE installation.
> The answer is: NO.
>
>
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "fellfrosch" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro on
>> both
>> (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then
>> upgrade
>> one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work fine?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-03-2008   #4 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista

The EULA say's No because you can only use a single copy of the software on
one machine. However, having said that, it has been done before. But now we
get onto the issue of upgrading the 'second' installation. When you upgrade
to Vista your XP licence key becomes part and parcel of Vista, therefore you
loose the use of that key ( I believe you can't even use the XP key again if
downgraded to XP at a later date.) Either way your Vista copy (which you
upgraded to from XP) would be legal, while the XP copy you initially
installed would not.

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Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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"fellfrosch" <fellfrosch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
newsE288B7C-4038-4B91-96EB-477348D15ED0@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro on
> both
> (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then
> upgrade
> one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work fine?
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Old 07-03-2008   #5 (permalink)
bluefin


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista

Q: Can I partition my HD to two partitions,
A: Yes

Q: ...Install my copy of winXP pro on both
A: Yes

Q: ...(its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything)
A: One operating system one license

Q: and then upgrade one of them to vista using an upgrade disk?
A: Acquire another license

Q: Will both windows work fine?
A: Only one of them work properly.




On Jul 3, 4:21*pm, fellfrosch <fellfro...@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

> Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro on both
> (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then upgrade
> one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work fine?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-03-2008   #6 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista

What I said is correct; 1(one) installation.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Mickey Mouse" wrote:
Quote:

> Interesting question and even more an interesting Answer from Mick.
> Actually, the license is for one computer. That is, two computers will not
> be running the same equipment.
> Mick, if it's on the same computer then the Microsoft verification should
> pass shouldn't it?
> Because the equipment serial numbers that Microsoft check eg, harddrive, rom
> and what ever else should be the same. Personally, I don't know if you can
> install Windows XP on both harddrives but given the above I would think it
> would be legitament. I'd appreciate your thoughts on my comments.
>
> Also, "fellfrosch" Why not just upgrade to Vista say on C: drive and then
> post again asking if you can now install XP on your D: drive?
> Once again, I don't know if you can do that.
>
> Regards Mickey
>
>
>
>
> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:9D922425-A28C-4407-9C1C-2A0C658DC7F3@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > The licence is for ONE installation.
> > The answer is: NO.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
> >
> >
> > "fellfrosch" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro on
> >> both
> >> (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then
> >> upgrade
> >> one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work fine?
>
>
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Old 07-03-2008   #7 (permalink)
Choto Cheeta


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista


Just to add, in simple words, with upgrade DVD, your previous versions
becomes invalid, hence you can now use only the new OS and that too one
installation on single PC !!! Dual booting is possible but with upgrade
license, it is not allowed !!!


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Old 07-04-2008   #8 (permalink)
fellfrosch


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista

that really bites... Cause i was just considering getting an OEM copy till i
read that if i changed the motherboard it would no longer work. I plan on
upgrading my Mobo within the next 1-2 years as well as my vid card, cpu, Ram,
and probably change my 2 500Gb SATA drives to 2-4 1Tb Drives (in other words
almost build a new system, minus the case, one HD, and the power supply). My
current parts would then go into a linux based unit I've been wanting to
build for my living room...
Before anyone says to just buy it again when i upgrade my system, it took me
years to save up to get this computer built... and I just got married so
there went a lot more money... and now I've got to save up to build my new
system and I don't want to add more cost to it.. it'd make me have to settle
for cheaper parts which i don't want to do. I've done that too much as it is
throughout my life...

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:
Quote:

> The EULA say's No because you can only use a single copy of the software on
> one machine. However, having said that, it has been done before. But now we
> get onto the issue of upgrading the 'second' installation. When you upgrade
> to Vista your XP licence key becomes part and parcel of Vista, therefore you
> loose the use of that key ( I believe you can't even use the XP key again if
> downgraded to XP at a later date.) Either way your Vista copy (which you
> upgraded to from XP) would be legal, while the XP copy you initially
> installed would not.
>
> --
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
>
> "fellfrosch" <fellfrosch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> newsE288B7C-4038-4B91-96EB-477348D15ED0@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro on
> > both
> > (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then
> > upgrade
> > one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work fine?
>
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Old 07-04-2008   #9 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista

"fellfrosch" <fellfrosch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:CCA8316E-B384-4F65-A04F-95D4B243AD1B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> that really bites... Cause i was just considering getting an OEM copy till
> i
> read that if i changed the motherboard it would no longer work. I plan on
> upgrading my Mobo within the next 1-2 years as well as my vid card, cpu,
> Ram,
> and probably change my 2 500Gb SATA drives to 2-4 1Tb Drives (in other
> words
> almost build a new system, minus the case, one HD, and the power supply).
> My
> current parts would then go into a linux based unit I've been wanting to
> build for my living room...
> Before anyone says to just buy it again when i upgrade my system, it took
> me
> years to save up to get this computer built... and I just got married so
> there went a lot more money... and now I've got to save up to build my new
> system and I don't want to add more cost to it.. it'd make me have to
> settle
> for cheaper parts which i don't want to do. I've done that too much as it
> is
> throughout my life...
>
Quote:

>> "fellfrosch" <fellfrosch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> newsE288B7C-4038-4B91-96EB-477348D15ED0@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro
>> > on
>> > both
>> > (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then
>> > upgrade
>> > one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work
>> > fine?
>>

The problem is that the Vista EULA specifies that you can only install the
one copy of the software. It also specifies that you must assign a license
to a device (each partition is a separate device) before installing there.
In order to install your XP to the second partition you would have to assign
(transfer) its license there. But if you do that the first partition
becomes unlicensed and the XP there would be the one installed on an
unlicensed device.

That is not to say that you cannot perform a parallel installation using an
upgrade product key and still be able to use the first OS (XP in your case).
You can, but you have to have a third Windows license to do it.

Do you have a copy of Windows sitting on a shelf that is not being used on
any computer anymore? It needs to be Windows 2000 or later.

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Old 07-04-2008   #10 (permalink)
fellfrosch


 
 

Re: Dual booting XP and Vista

the only one i have that is extra anymore is one my old school gave me. Says
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - May 2005 SERVERS. Used to have another
reg copy of XP but a co-worker "borrowed" it out of my backpack while i
wasn't looking and then moved just after i found out.
I don't know if the x64 edition works at all. i have never tried to install
it so i don't even know if it's a valid copy (it does have the key on the
back of the envelope).
Would Vista 32 bit Upgrade install over a 64 bit XP?

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
Quote:

> "fellfrosch" <fellfrosch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:CCA8316E-B384-4F65-A04F-95D4B243AD1B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > that really bites... Cause i was just considering getting an OEM copy till
> > i
> > read that if i changed the motherboard it would no longer work. I plan on
> > upgrading my Mobo within the next 1-2 years as well as my vid card, cpu,
> > Ram,
> > and probably change my 2 500Gb SATA drives to 2-4 1Tb Drives (in other
> > words
> > almost build a new system, minus the case, one HD, and the power supply).
> > My
> > current parts would then go into a linux based unit I've been wanting to
> > build for my living room...
> > Before anyone says to just buy it again when i upgrade my system, it took
> > me
> > years to save up to get this computer built... and I just got married so
> > there went a lot more money... and now I've got to save up to build my new
> > system and I don't want to add more cost to it.. it'd make me have to
> > settle
> > for cheaper parts which i don't want to do. I've done that too much as it
> > is
> > throughout my life...
> >
Quote:

> >> "fellfrosch" <fellfrosch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> newsE288B7C-4038-4B91-96EB-477348D15ED0@xxxxxx
> >> > Can I partition my HD to two partitions, Install my copy of winXP pro
> >> > on
> >> > both
> >> > (its only on one comouter so that shouldnt violate anything) and then
> >> > upgrade
> >> > one of them to vista using an upgrade disk? Will both windows work
> >> > fine?
> >>
>
>
> The problem is that the Vista EULA specifies that you can only install the
> one copy of the software. It also specifies that you must assign a license
> to a device (each partition is a separate device) before installing there.
> In order to install your XP to the second partition you would have to assign
> (transfer) its license there. But if you do that the first partition
> becomes unlicensed and the XP there would be the one installed on an
> unlicensed device.
>
> That is not to say that you cannot perform a parallel installation using an
> upgrade product key and still be able to use the first OS (XP in your case).
> You can, but you have to have a third Windows license to do it.
>
> Do you have a copy of Windows sitting on a shelf that is not being used on
> any computer anymore? It needs to be Windows 2000 or later.
>
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