Vista - Installation hangs before first setup screen appears

"AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Just a thought - are you, or have you tried, installing within XP?

No and No. The machine is currently not bootable (no OS) - but I could try
installing XP on it and then installing Vista over that. Perhaps I'll try
that if my newly made DVD fails like the first does.

-cd

Reason I asked is that it was the only way I could install Vista (but not
"over" XP -on another drive- resulted in dual boot).

"Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]" <cpdaniel_remove_this_and_nospam@mvps.org.nospam>
wrote in message news:%23tqkYmXbGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:O6HiMHXbGHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Just a thought - are you, or have you tried, installing within XP?
>
> No and No. The machine is currently not bootable (no OS) - but I could
> try installing XP on it and then installing Vista over that. Perhaps I'll
> try that if my newly made DVD fails like the first does.
>
> -cd
>
>
>

AJR wrote:
> Reason I asked is that it was the only way I could install Vista (but
> not "over" XP -on another drive- resulted in dual boot).

That worked for me as well. A new, slowly burned, SHA-1 verified DVD made
no difference, so I installed XP on the machine and then installed Vista
from XP. It did take a awfully long time (~2 hours) to install, but in the
end, it did work.

So far, I'm extremely unimpressed - the performance is beyond terrible and
the OS is so buggy that it's not even funny - even for a pre-Beta 2 CTP it's
bad.

-cd

Actually 5342 and above addresses the performance quite nicely )
It even runs relatively well with Glass on my 256MB RAM machine ;o)

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"Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]" <cpdaniel_remove_this_and_nospam@mvps.org.nospam>
wrote in message news:uEt%23CC5bGHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> AJR wrote:
>> Reason I asked is that it was the only way I could install Vista (but
>> not "over" XP -on another drive- resulted in dual boot).
>
> That worked for me as well. A new, slowly burned, SHA-1 verified DVD made
> no difference, so I installed XP on the machine and then installed Vista
> from XP. It did take a awfully long time (~2 hours) to install, but in
> the end, it did work.
>
> So far, I'm extremely unimpressed - the performance is beyond terrible and
> the OS is so buggy that it's not even funny - even for a pre-Beta 2 CTP
> it's bad.
>
> -cd
>
>

Zack Whittaker wrote:
> Actually 5342 and above addresses the performance quite nicely )
> It even runs relatively well with Glass on my 256MB RAM machine ;o)

Cool. I'm downloading 5365 from the Connect site right now. Can I do WinFX
development on that build? I was under the impression that the current
WinFX/SDK bits were specific for 5308, which is why I installed that build.

Finally, should I expect a 5308 -> 5365 upgrade install to work, or am I
looking at scraping the machine down to bare metal and starting over?

-cd

WinFX is installed by default, the WDK is available on Connect Page also.
Clean install only, no upgrade from 5308 to 5365.
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"Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]" <cpdaniel_remove_this_and_nospam@mvps.org.nospam>
wrote in message news:%235Vv4P%23bGHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Zack Whittaker wrote:
>> Actually 5342 and above addresses the performance quite nicely )
>> It even runs relatively well with Glass on my 256MB RAM machine ;o)
>
> Cool. I'm downloading 5365 from the Connect site right now. Can I do
> WinFX development on that build? I was under the impression that the
> current WinFX/SDK bits were specific for 5308, which is why I installed
> that build.
>
> Finally, should I expect a 5308 -> 5365 upgrade install to work, or am I
> looking at scraping the machine down to bare metal and starting over?
>
> -cd
>
>
>

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> WinFX is installed by default, the WDK is available on Connect Page
> also. Clean install only, no upgrade from 5308 to 5365.

The WDK is for driver deveopment only - it's the Windows SDK and the Visual
Studio Orcas CTP that I'm concerned about. I guess I'm just going to have
to try it as 5308 is unusable.

I'll be burning a dvd of 5365 this afternoon - maybe this one will install
right off the DVD without installing XP first.

-cd

The SDK is only synched with CTP releases, not interim releases, so you will
have use 5308 if you want access to the latest SDK available to Vista.
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"Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP]" <cpdaniel_remove_this_and_nospam@mvps.org.nospam>
wrote in message news:OMzo5pEcGHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>> WinFX is installed by default, the WDK is available on Connect Page
>> also. Clean install only, no upgrade from 5308 to 5365.
>
> The WDK is for driver deveopment only - it's the Windows SDK and the
> Visual Studio Orcas CTP that I'm concerned about. I guess I'm just going
> to have to try it as 5308 is unusable.
>
> I'll be burning a dvd of 5365 this afternoon - maybe this one will install
> right off the DVD without installing XP first.
>
> -cd
>
>
>
>

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> The SDK is only synched with CTP releases, not interim releases, so
> you will have use 5308 if you want access to the latest SDK available
> to Vista. --

That's what I was afraid of. I may not actually need the SDK - as long as
the WinFX bits are there and the Orcas CTP works. I think I'll give it a
try - it's either that, or wait for the next sync'd release 'cause 5308 is
unusable.

-cd

Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP] wrote:
> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>> The SDK is only synched with CTP releases, not interim releases, so
>> you will have use 5308 if you want access to the latest SDK available
>> to Vista. --
>
> That's what I was afraid of. I may not actually need the SDK - as
> long as the WinFX bits are there and the Orcas CTP works. I think I'll
> give it a try - it's either that, or wait for the next sync'd
> release 'cause 5308 is unusable.

Well, I must say - 5365 is a gigantic improvement over 5308. Still rough in
places, but getting there. Hopefully I can get enough dev bits to work on
this build to make some progress on the project that started all this!

Thanks for the help, all who responded!

-cd