Vista - In Place Upgrade on non SP1 machine using SP1 DVD?

I have a Dell laptop running Vista Home Premium. Vista SP1 will not install either through WU or manually. I've tried several possible solutions, but it appears it is due to a corrupt manifest file (0 length file).

Microsoft wants me to do an in place upgrade. I requested the DVD required from Dell but the DVD they sent has SP1 included.

My question is, can I do an in place upgrade on a non-SP1 system, using the SP1 slipstreamed DVD? Or is this just asking for trouble? If it would work, I would automatically have SP1 installed.

Thanks!

I suggest to go for clean Vista SP1 installation.


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Hi mikej--

Good for Dell for keeping their word that they would ship an actual Vista
DVD with their boxes, because there is no comparision in the help you can
get from one vs. the often worthless "recovery CDs with XP and recovery DVDs
with Vista" that the OEMs get away with shipping.
What Dell ***promised*** on their blog around the time Vista RTM'd was that
they were going to ship a Vista DVD with each and every box.

With a Vista DVD you have the advantage of doing a startup repair, a repair
install, or using what will fix a wide range of software caused no boot
Vistas, the bootrec.exe command switches that aren't well known but will
often fix a no boot Vista when other methods won't.

You're question's a good one. My experience is that when I've repaired no
boot's with a DVD that is earlier than the OS service packquite a few times
in XP, specifically XP SP2 boxes with an XP SP1 or XP CD, that the repaired
OS became whatever the CD's service pack level was that I used to repair.
Your situation is that you want to run a repair install with the
slipstreamed SP1 on a Vista HP RTM. I can't imagine any reason whatsoever
that you're going to have any trouble at all doing this. I would expect
that to get you Vista SP1 on your box. Vista SP1 is Vista RTM + the SP1
files.

Back up of course, but I'd go for it.

Good luck,

CH

"mikej" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Hello,
Sorry not going to work.
| >Your situation is that you want to run a repair install with the
| >slipstreamed SP1 on a Vista HP RTM. I can't imagine any reason
whatsoever
| >that you're going to have any trouble at all doing this. I would expect
| >that to get you Vista SP1 on your box. Vista SP1 is Vista RTM + the SP1
| >files.
The upgrade path from RTM installation to Integrated (slipstreamed) SP1
media is not available.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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| >Hi mikej--
| >
| >Good for Dell for keeping their word that they would ship an actual
Vista
| >DVD with their boxes, because there is no comparision in the help you
can
| >get from one vs. the often worthless "recovery CDs with XP and recovery
DVDs
| >with Vista" that the OEMs get away with shipping.
| >What Dell ***promised*** on their blog around the time Vista RTM'd was
that
| >they were going to ship a Vista DVD with each and every box.
| >
| >With a Vista DVD you have the advantage of doing a startup repair, a
repair
| >install, or using what will fix a wide range of software caused no boot
| >Vistas, the bootrec.exe command switches that aren't well known but will
| >often fix a no boot Vista when other methods won't.
| >
| >You're question's a good one. My experience is that when I've repaired
no
| >boot's with a DVD that is earlier than the OS service packquite a few
times
| >in XP, specifically XP SP2 boxes with an XP SP1 or XP CD, that the
repaired
| >OS became whatever the CD's service pack level was that I used to
repair.
| >Your situation is that you want to run a repair install with the
| >slipstreamed SP1 on a Vista HP RTM. I can't imagine any reason
whatsoever
| >that you're going to have any trouble at all doing this. I would expect
| >that to get you Vista SP1 on your box. Vista SP1 is Vista RTM + the SP1
| >files.
| >
| >Back up of course, but I'd go for it.
| >
| >Good luck,
| >
| >CH
| >
| >"mikej" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
| >news:7e36f479bb7cbdfe42a374f5be2d040f@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
| >>
| >> I have a Dell laptop running Vista Home Premium. Vista SP1 will not
| >> install either through WU or manually. I've tried several possible
| >> solutions, but it appears it is due to a corrupt manifest file (0
length
| >> file).
| >>
| >> Microsoft wants me to do an in place upgrade. I requested the DVD
| >> required from Dell but the DVD they sent has SP1 included.
| >>
| >> My question is, can I do an in place upgrade on a non-SP1 system, using
| >> the SP1 slipstreamed DVD? Or is this just asking for trouble? If it
| >> would work, I would automatically have SP1 installed.
| >>
| >> Thanks!
| >>
| >>
| >> --
| >> mikej
| >
| >

Hello Darrell, can you briefly explain why it wouldn't work? I'm just curious. Thanks.

Hello Mike,
That scenario is blocked by setup, so running setup would fail with an
error message telling you that you need to install SP1 before you can
upgrade.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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Hello Darrell, can you briefly explain why it wouldn't work? I'm just
curious. Thanks.


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