Vista - nForce4 SATA RAID drivers

can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to copy
to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array? I
have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I am
using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and copy all
files isn't enough info.

thanks!

chris
--
Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom and
safety...

With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.

I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I installed
it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP drivers. In this
case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the folder IDE \ WinXP \
sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and use load disc when asked
which partition you what to install Vista.

Brian

"Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
> copy
> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array? I
> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I am
> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and copy
> all
> files isn't enough info.
>
> thanks!
>
> chris
> --
> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom
> and
> safety...

Whether, or not, you need SATA drivers on a floppy is entirely dependent
upon your M/B and it's chipset.

I have an older Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe (2 1/2 years old) I "must" have that
floppy or installation will NOT proceed. I can not even access the existing
hard drives to choose a partition unless they are installed first.



--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uht5myC4GHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
>
> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I
> installed it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP drivers.
> In this case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the folder IDE \
> WinXP \ sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and use load disc
> when asked which partition you what to install Vista.
>
> Brian
>
> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
>> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
>> copy
>> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array? I
>> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I
>> am
>> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and copy
>> all
>> files isn't enough info.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> chris
>> --
>> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom
>> and
>> safety...
>
>

Which SATA drivers did you use ?
Where did you get them ?
Do these work with 5728 ?

Thanks
Brian

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eqWLP8C4GHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Whether, or not, you need SATA drivers on a floppy is entirely dependent
> upon your M/B and it's chipset.
>
> I have an older Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe (2 1/2 years old) I "must" have
> that floppy or installation will NOT proceed. I can not even access the
> existing hard drives to choose a partition unless they are installed
> first.
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>
> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:uht5myC4GHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
>>
>> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I
>> installed it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP
>> drivers. In this case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the folder
>> IDE \ WinXP \ sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and use load
>> disc when asked which partition you what to install Vista.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
>>> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
>>> copy
>>> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array?
>>> I
>>> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I
>>> am
>>> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and
>>> copy all
>>> files isn't enough info.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> chris
>>> --
>>> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom
>>> and
>>> safety...
>>
>>
>
>

Richard

Sorry to have reacted so bluntly; as you know there has a number of
problems with NVIDIA controller drivers with 5600. They were for me OK with
previous releases.

NVIDIA withdrew the RC1 SATA controller drivers, The beta2 drivers would
not work and I and a number of others were obliged to use WinXP drivers -
not exactly ideal for a RC1 release.

Aymincendiary looked to be trying to use Legacy drivers - he was also
downloading 5728 so I tried to short cut my response - obviously not that
clearly.

Brian


"Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:O87GORH4GHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Which SATA drivers did you use ?
> Where did you get them ?
> Do these work with 5728 ?
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eqWLP8C4GHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Whether, or not, you need SATA drivers on a floppy is entirely dependent
>> upon your M/B and it's chipset.
>>
>> I have an older Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe (2 1/2 years old) I "must" have
>> that floppy or installation will NOT proceed. I can not even access the
>> existing hard drives to choose a partition unless they are installed
>> first.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:uht5myC4GHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
>>>
>>> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I
>>> installed it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP
>>> drivers. In this case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the folder
>>> IDE \ WinXP \ sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and use load
>>> disc when asked which partition you what to install Vista.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
>>>> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
>>>> copy
>>>> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array?
>>>> I
>>>> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I
>>>> am
>>>> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and
>>>> copy all
>>>> files isn't enough info.
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> chris
>>>> --
>>>> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom
>>>> and
>>>> safety...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

okay, now we're getting some answers here. before i felt like i was looking
for a yellow church in philadelphia...

nforce_vista32beta2... i loaded the device, controller, and sata raid
drivers. got an hourglass and a pretty wallpaper design on my monitor for
about 7 hours before i decided to abort.we'll try 5728.

thanks!
--
Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom and
safety...


"Brian P Fielding" wrote:

> Richard
>
> Sorry to have reacted so bluntly; as you know there has a number of
> problems with NVIDIA controller drivers with 5600. They were for me OK with
> previous releases.
>
> NVIDIA withdrew the RC1 SATA controller drivers, The beta2 drivers would
> not work and I and a number of others were obliged to use WinXP drivers -
> not exactly ideal for a RC1 release.
>
> Aymincendiary looked to be trying to use Legacy drivers - he was also
> downloading 5728 so I tried to short cut my response - obviously not that
> clearly.
>
> Brian
>
>
> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:O87GORH4GHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Which SATA drivers did you use ?
> > Where did you get them ?
> > Do these work with 5728 ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Brian
> >
> > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eqWLP8C4GHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Whether, or not, you need SATA drivers on a floppy is entirely dependent
> >> upon your M/B and it's chipset.
> >>
> >> I have an older Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe (2 1/2 years old) I "must" have
> >> that floppy or installation will NOT proceed. I can not even access the
> >> existing hard drives to choose a partition unless they are installed
> >> first.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Richard Urban
> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> >> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
> >>
> >> Quote from George Ankner:
> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:uht5myC4GHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
> >>>
> >>> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I
> >>> installed it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP
> >>> drivers. In this case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the folder
> >>> IDE \ WinXP \ sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and use load
> >>> disc when asked which partition you what to install Vista.
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
> >>>> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
> >>>> copy
> >>>> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array?
> >>>> I
> >>>> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I
> >>>> am
> >>>> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and
> >>>> copy all
> >>>> files isn't enough info.
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> chris
> >>>> --
> >>>> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom
> >>>> and
> >>>> safety...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

burning it to disc right now. i'll load this one after work.

any suggestions on an imaging software program? acronis trueimage let me
down 2x, and the ASR thru windows xp is unreliable. i'm tired of having to
call up for new activations for my apps after a system crash. i've since
installed them on a different computer which i rarely ever tinker with.

chris
--
Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom and
safety...


"Brian P Fielding" wrote:

> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
>
> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I installed
> it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP drivers. In this
> case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the folder IDE \ WinXP \
> sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and use load disc when asked
> which partition you what to install Vista.
>
> Brian
>
> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
> > can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
> > copy
> > to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array? I
> > have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I am
> > using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and copy
> > all
> > files isn't enough info.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > chris
> > --
> > Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom
> > and
> > safety...
>
>
>

My drivers are for a Silicon Image chipset (driver version Si3112r). I use
the drivers made for Windows XP. They work fine, and are absolutely
necessary to install "any" operating system on this computer. Without them
installed first, during the early part of the install routine, I can not
continue.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:O87GORH4GHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Which SATA drivers did you use ?
> Where did you get them ?
> Do these work with 5728 ?
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eqWLP8C4GHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Whether, or not, you need SATA drivers on a floppy is entirely dependent
>> upon your M/B and it's chipset.
>>
>> I have an older Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe (2 1/2 years old) I "must" have
>> that floppy or installation will NOT proceed. I can not even access the
>> existing hard drives to choose a partition unless they are installed
>> first.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:uht5myC4GHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
>>>
>>> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I
>>> installed it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP
>>> drivers. In this case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the folder
>>> IDE \ WinXP \ sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and use load
>>> disc when asked which partition you what to install Vista.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
>>>> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
>>>> copy
>>>> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID array?
>>>> I
>>>> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0. I
>>>> am
>>>> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and
>>>> copy all
>>>> files isn't enough info.
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> chris
>>>> --
>>>> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both freedom
>>>> and
>>>> safety...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

My board (Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI) has a SiI3114 SATA RAID Controller but I
use the NVIDIA controller for my RAID. I had to preload the SiImage
drivers. The NVIDIA SATA controller drivers have been included in 5728;
this is the first time, to my knowledge, that NVIDIA SATA drivers have been
included in a Windows OS.

I used WinXP drivers on the SiI3114. Note- Silicon Image have just
released (24 Sept) Vista RAID drivers for the SiI3112 (and for the SiI3114)

Brian


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OhTiAPK4GHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> My drivers are for a Silicon Image chipset (driver version Si3112r). I use
> the drivers made for Windows XP. They work fine, and are absolutely
> necessary to install "any" operating system on this computer. Without them
> installed first, during the early part of the install routine, I can not
> continue.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>
> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:O87GORH4GHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Which SATA drivers did you use ?
>> Where did you get them ?
>> Do these work with 5728 ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Brian
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eqWLP8C4GHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Whether, or not, you need SATA drivers on a floppy is entirely dependent
>>> upon your M/B and it's chipset.
>>>
>>> I have an older Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe (2 1/2 years old) I "must" have
>>> that floppy or installation will NOT proceed. I can not even access the
>>> existing hard drives to choose a partition unless they are installed
>>> first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:uht5myC4GHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
>>>>
>>>> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I
>>>> installed it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP
>>>> drivers. In this case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the
>>>> folder IDE \ WinXP \ sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and
>>>> use load disc when asked which partition you what to install Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
>>>>> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files to
>>>>> copy
>>>>> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID
>>>>> array? I
>>>>> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0.
>>>>> I am
>>>>> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and
>>>>> copy all
>>>>> files isn't enough info.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> chris
>>>>> --
>>>>> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both
>>>>> freedom and
>>>>> safety...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ebgi0bK4GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> My board (Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI) has a SiI3114 SATA RAID Controller but I
> use the NVIDIA controller for my RAID. I had to preload the SiImage
> drivers. The NVIDIA SATA controller drivers have been included in 5728;
> this is the first time, to my knowledge, that NVIDIA SATA drivers have
> been included in a Windows OS.
>
> I used WinXP drivers on the SiI3114. Note- Silicon Image have just
> released (24 Sept) Vista RAID drivers for the SiI3112 (and for the
> SiI3114)
>
> Brian
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OhTiAPK4GHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> My drivers are for a Silicon Image chipset (driver version Si3112r). I
>> use the drivers made for Windows XP. They work fine, and are absolutely
>> necessary to install "any" operating system on this computer. Without
>> them installed first, during the early part of the install routine, I can
>> not continue.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:O87GORH4GHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Which SATA drivers did you use ?
>>> Where did you get them ?
>>> Do these work with 5728 ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eqWLP8C4GHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Whether, or not, you need SATA drivers on a floppy is entirely
>>>> dependent upon your M/B and it's chipset.
>>>>
>>>> I have an older Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe (2 1/2 years old) I "must" have
>>>> that floppy or installation will NOT proceed. I can not even access the
>>>> existing hard drives to choose a partition unless they are installed
>>>> first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>
>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Brian P Fielding" <freyrsden@deleteme.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:uht5myC4GHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> With 5728 the drivers are already built in - so no need to load them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found with 5600 I could not install vista (x64 or x86) unless I
>>>>> installed it through Windows XP (or WinXP x64) and used the WinXP
>>>>> drivers. In this case I copied the WinXP sataraid drivers (in the
>>>>> folder IDE \ WinXP \ sataraid ) to a USB Stick (you can use a CD) and
>>>>> use load disc when asked which partition you what to install Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aymincendiary" <zbar2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7D307148-E6A6-4F85-9CE5-78E9610C6A64@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> can someone give me step by step instructions on exactly what files
>>>>>> to copy
>>>>>> to disk or CD so I can load the correct drivers for my SATA RAID
>>>>>> array? I
>>>>>> have an Nvidia nForce4 chipset and 4 seagate SATA drives in a RAID 0.
>>>>>> I am
>>>>>> using the nforce_vista32beta2 driver download. IDE/driver/LEGACY and
>>>>>> copy all
>>>>>> files isn't enough info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chris
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety are deprived both
>>>>>> freedom and
>>>>>> safety...
>>>>>



I was just on their web site and can not find a link. Can you provide such?

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Posted via Vista RC1 5728

(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!