Vista - Vista Boot after XP installation

Hi there,

I have the following issue:

I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running fine for 4
weeks on it.

Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista ios on c:
and xp is on d:

After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get Windows
Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added Vista to the
boot.ini but it doesn't boot.

Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?

Thanks a lot
Scapin

Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot process.
Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the Vista entry. After
you restore the Vista boot process, it will be necessary to set up a legacy
boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.

"ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
> Hi there,
>
> I have the following issue:
>
> I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running fine for 4
> weeks on it.
>
> Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista ios on c:
> and xp is on d:
>
> After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get Windows
> Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added Vista to
> the
> boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
>
> Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
>
> Thanks a lot
> Scapin

Thanks John. I will try to do that.

Just for interest... How does boot work under Windows Vista instead of using
boot.ini ?

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot process.
> Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the Vista entry. After
> you restore the Vista boot process, it will be necessary to set up a legacy
> boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.
>
> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have the following issue:
> >
> > I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running fine for 4
> > weeks on it.
> >
> > Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista ios on c:
> > and xp is on d:
> >
> > After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get Windows
> > Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added Vista to
> > the
> > boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
> >
> > Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Scapin
>
>
>

Hi John,

unfortunately it doesn't work.

When I openeded VistaBootPro, there was an entry for Windows Vista. So I
added a second one for Windows XP as "Windows legacy".

But still, it does not show a boot menu. It directly starts Windows XP as if
no changes where made.

Hm. Is it because I installed Windows XP after I had Windows Vista running?
It seems it is still booting from ntdlr and not from winload.exe (Vista).

Cheers
Scapin

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot process.
> Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the Vista entry. After
> you restore the Vista boot process, it will be necessary to set up a legacy
> boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.
>
> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have the following issue:
> >
> > I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running fine for 4
> > weeks on it.
> >
> > Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista ios on c:
> > and xp is on d:
> >
> > After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get Windows
> > Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added Vista to
> > the
> > boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
> >
> > Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Scapin
>
>
>

ScapinVS schrieb:
> Hi John,
>
> unfortunately it doesn't work.
>
> When I openeded VistaBootPro, there was an entry for Windows Vista. So I
> added a second one for Windows XP as "Windows legacy".
>
> But still, it does not show a boot menu. It directly starts Windows XP as if
> no changes where made.
>
> Hm. Is it because I installed Windows XP after I had Windows Vista running?
> It seems it is still booting from ntdlr and not from winload.exe (Vista).

Yes, seems so, indeed. I had the same problem and booted from the
Vista RC2 (b 5744) DVD hoping I would be offered a repair install as
in XP - in vain. I had to do a fresh install of Vista which put the
old Vista installation into 'Windows.old' (which I deleted).

Roy


> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot process.
>> Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the Vista entry. After
>> you restore the Vista boot process, it will be necessary to set up a legacy
>> boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.
>>
>> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I have the following issue:
>>>
>>> I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running fine for 4
>>> weeks on it.
>>>
>>> Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista ios on c:
>>> and xp is on d:
>>>
>>> After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get Windows
>>> Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added Vista to
>>> the
>>> boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>> Scapin
>>
>>

ScapinVS wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> unfortunately it doesn't work.
>
> When I openeded VistaBootPro, there was an entry for Windows Vista. So I
> added a second one for Windows XP as "Windows legacy".
>
> But still, it does not show a boot menu. It directly starts Windows XP as if
> no changes where made.
>
> Hm. Is it because I installed Windows XP after I had Windows Vista running?
> It seems it is still booting from ntdlr and not from winload.exe (Vista).

ScapinVS:

It would certainly have been easier for you if you had installed XP
first. But I thought VistaBootPro was supposed to be able to fix things up.

Personally, I use a 3rd party boot manager, BootIt NG, which I strongly
recommend. It allows you to install different OS's completely
independently of each other and in any order. You do not need to know
anything about the different boot process of the different Window OS's
(95/98/Me, NT/2000/XP, Vista). I'm not exactly sure how it would help
you to recover from your situation, but it probably is possible.

David Wilkinson

In VistaBootPro, go to the bootloader section and select reinstall the Vista
Bootloader. That should give you the Vista boot. You may have to play
around with the XP files to get it to load after that.

"ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6AAF55F4-8A9D-4AA1-A14D-1C0FE623AA18@microsoft.com...
> Hi John,
>
> unfortunately it doesn't work.
>
> When I openeded VistaBootPro, there was an entry for Windows Vista. So I
> added a second one for Windows XP as "Windows legacy".
>
> But still, it does not show a boot menu. It directly starts Windows XP as
> if
> no changes where made.
>
> Hm. Is it because I installed Windows XP after I had Windows Vista
> running?
> It seems it is still booting from ntdlr and not from winload.exe (Vista).
>
> Cheers
> Scapin
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot process.
>> Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the Vista entry. After
>> you restore the Vista boot process, it will be necessary to set up a
>> legacy
>> boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.
>>
>> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I have the following issue:
>> >
>> > I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running fine for
>> > 4
>> > weeks on it.
>> >
>> > Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista ios on
>> > c:
>> > and xp is on d:
>> >
>> > After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get
>> > Windows
>> > Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added Vista
>> > to
>> > the
>> > boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot
>> > Scapin
>>
>>
>>

Scapin

I have done this a few times and it works. Follow John's advice to restore
the Vista boot sector. Boot into Vista and install VistaBoot Pro there as
well. From within Vista add a Windows Legacy option but make sure you pick
the drive where the boot.ini file is which is not necessarily the same drive
where XP is. Given the scenario you have described the XP boot files are on
drive C: so this is the drive you would specify for the legacy boot.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



John Barnes wrote:
> In VistaBootPro, go to the bootloader section and select reinstall
> the Vista Bootloader. That should give you the Vista boot. You may
> have to play around with the XP files to get it to load after that.
>
> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6AAF55F4-8A9D-4AA1-A14D-1C0FE623AA18@microsoft.com...
>> Hi John,
>>
>> unfortunately it doesn't work.
>>
>> When I openeded VistaBootPro, there was an entry for Windows Vista.
>> So I added a second one for Windows XP as "Windows legacy".
>>
>> But still, it does not show a boot menu. It directly starts Windows
>> XP as if
>> no changes where made.
>>
>> Hm. Is it because I installed Windows XP after I had Windows Vista
>> running?
>> It seems it is still booting from ntdlr and not from winload.exe
>> (Vista). Cheers
>> Scapin
>>
>> "John Barnes" wrote:
>>
>>> Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot process.
>>> Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the Vista entry. After
>>> you restore the Vista boot process, it will be necessary to
>>> set up a legacy
>>> boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.
>>>
>>> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I have the following issue:
>>>>
>>>> I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running
>>>> fine for 4
>>>> weeks on it.
>>>>
>>>> Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista
>>>> ios on c:
>>>> and xp is on d:
>>>>
>>>> After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get
>>>> Windows
>>>> Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added
>>>> Vista to
>>>> the
>>>> boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>> Scapin

Ok, Thanks John and Kerry. Both your answer helped me a lot.

This is how I've fixed it:

- Installed VistaBootPRo under XP
- Used VBP to reinstall boot loader
- Added Windows Vista entry and Windows Legacy entry for XP (both on C:\,
where I found the boot.ini)

Now everything works well.

Cheers
Scapin

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> Scapin
>
> I have done this a few times and it works. Follow John's advice to restore
> the Vista boot sector. Boot into Vista and install VistaBoot Pro there as
> well. From within Vista add a Windows Legacy option but make sure you pick
> the drive where the boot.ini file is which is not necessarily the same drive
> where XP is. Given the scenario you have described the XP boot files are on
> drive C: so this is the drive you would specify for the legacy boot.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
>
> John Barnes wrote:
> > In VistaBootPro, go to the bootloader section and select reinstall
> > the Vista Bootloader. That should give you the Vista boot. You may
> > have to play around with the XP files to get it to load after that.
> >
> > "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:6AAF55F4-8A9D-4AA1-A14D-1C0FE623AA18@microsoft.com...
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> unfortunately it doesn't work.
> >>
> >> When I openeded VistaBootPro, there was an entry for Windows Vista.
> >> So I added a second one for Windows XP as "Windows legacy".
> >>
> >> But still, it does not show a boot menu. It directly starts Windows
> >> XP as if
> >> no changes where made.
> >>
> >> Hm. Is it because I installed Windows XP after I had Windows Vista
> >> running?
> >> It seems it is still booting from ntdlr and not from winload.exe
> >> (Vista). Cheers
> >> Scapin
> >>
> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot process.
> >>> Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the Vista entry. After
> >>> you restore the Vista boot process, it will be necessary to
> >>> set up a legacy
> >>> boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.
> >>>
> >>> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Hi there,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have the following issue:
> >>>>
> >>>> I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running
> >>>> fine for 4
> >>>> weeks on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista
> >>>> ios on c:
> >>>> and xp is on d:
> >>>>
> >>>> After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get
> >>>> Windows
> >>>> Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added
> >>>> Vista to
> >>>> the
> >>>> boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks a lot
> >>>> Scapin
>
>
>

Glad to hear you got it working. It took me a while the first time I did
this to figure out I had to specify c: for the legacy boot drive. Once I
stopped to think a bit it was obvious but the stopping and thinking about it
is often the hardest part of solving a problem :-)

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



ScapinVS wrote:
> Ok, Thanks John and Kerry. Both your answer helped me a lot.
>
> This is how I've fixed it:
>
> - Installed VistaBootPRo under XP
> - Used VBP to reinstall boot loader
> - Added Windows Vista entry and Windows Legacy entry for XP (both on
> C:\, where I found the boot.ini)
>
> Now everything works well.
>
> Cheers
> Scapin
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> Scapin
>>
>> I have done this a few times and it works. Follow John's advice to
>> restore the Vista boot sector. Boot into Vista and install VistaBoot
>> Pro there as well. From within Vista add a Windows Legacy option but
>> make sure you pick the drive where the boot.ini file is which is not
>> necessarily the same drive where XP is. Given the scenario you have
>> described the XP boot files are on drive C: so this is the drive you
>> would specify for the legacy boot.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>>
>>
>>
>> John Barnes wrote:
>>> In VistaBootPro, go to the bootloader section and select reinstall
>>> the Vista Bootloader. That should give you the Vista boot. You may
>>> have to play around with the XP files to get it to load after that.
>>>
>>> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6AAF55F4-8A9D-4AA1-A14D-1C0FE623AA18@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> unfortunately it doesn't work.
>>>>
>>>> When I openeded VistaBootPro, there was an entry for Windows Vista.
>>>> So I added a second one for Windows XP as "Windows legacy".
>>>>
>>>> But still, it does not show a boot menu. It directly starts Windows
>>>> XP as if
>>>> no changes where made.
>>>>
>>>> Hm. Is it because I installed Windows XP after I had Windows Vista
>>>> running?
>>>> It seems it is still booting from ntdlr and not from winload.exe
>>>> (Vista). Cheers
>>>> Scapin
>>>>
>>>> "John Barnes" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Download VistaBootPro and use it to restore the Vista boot
>>>>> process. Boot.ini is not used to boot Vista, so get rid of the
>>>>> Vista entry. After you restore the Vista boot process, it will be
>>>>> necessary to
>>>>> set up a legacy
>>>>> boot entry for XP, also via VistaBootPro.
>>>>>
>>>>> "ScapinVS" <ScapinVS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:F415575C-15ED-43F2-914A-E4BF30AABC2F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the following issue:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just bought a new notebook and had Windows Vista RC1 running
>>>>>> fine for 4
>>>>>> weeks on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now i needed to install Windows XP on a second partition. Vista
>>>>>> ios on c:
>>>>>> and xp is on d:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After I installed Windows XP on the second partition I don't get
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> Vista in my boot menu any more. Only XP starts. I manually added
>>>>>> Vista to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> boot.ini but it doesn't boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know what to do to get a working boot menu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>> Scapin