Vista - have vista, want to re-upload xp in addition

i have vista (build 5600, i’m planning to upgrade to the newest, but
haven’t yet). because i didn’t do my homework, and install vista on a
new partition, i wiped my harddrive to have vista (which isn’t a
problem, all of my files are on an external backup).

every time i put in the xp disc while xp is running, it says that it
cannot run setup because the version of windows i’m running now
(vista) is newer than that of the disc (xp).

i then restart to boot from the xp disc. after a couple of questions
(do you want to install?) it tells me that it cannot read my hard
drive, and the i may need to run a diagnostic.

to my understanding, my hard drive is one of a newer type that i need
drivers for. unfortunately i do not have a floppy drive (the newer
computers with newer hard drives don’t tend to come with older storage
types). do i need to purchase a usb floppy drive, and run the
drivers? or can i possibly use my flash drive with the drivers on
them? or is there an easier way?

i appreciate any help. i need xp to run programs like photoshop. if
anyone else knows if there is a build that supports photoshop, that
would be much appreciated. i could then just run that, and possibly
not have any use for xp.

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Its important to understand, you can almost never put an older OS disk in
the computer and "downgrade".

If XP cannot read the disk you must have made it dynamic and XP doesn't know
what to do with it at this point, or possibly Windows XP requires device
drivers for the disk controller...

A possiblity if you want to keep Vista is to use Virtual PC 2007 which will
run XP.



Bill F.


"wakedude06" <none@000.com> wrote in message
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>i have vista (build 5600, i'm planning to upgrade to the newest, but
> haven't yet). because i didn't do my homework, and install vista on a
> new partition, i wiped my harddrive to have vista (which isn't a
> problem, all of my files are on an external backup).
>
> every time i put in the xp disc while xp is running, it says that it
> cannot run setup because the version of windows i'm running now
> (vista) is newer than that of the disc (xp).
>
> i then restart to boot from the xp disc. after a couple of questions
> (do you want to install?) it tells me that it cannot read my hard
> drive, and the i may need to run a diagnostic.
>
> to my understanding, my hard drive is one of a newer type that i need
> drivers for. unfortunately i do not have a floppy drive (the newer
> computers with newer hard drives don't tend to come with older storage
> types). do i need to purchase a usb floppy drive, and run the
> drivers? or can i possibly use my flash drive with the drivers on
> them? or is there an easier way?
>
> i appreciate any help. i need xp to run programs like photoshop. if
> anyone else knows if there is a build that supports photoshop, that
> would be much appreciated. i could then just run that, and possibly
> not have any use for xp.
>
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Yes you will need a floppy for drivers unless you slipstream them.

"wakedude06" <none@000.com> wrote in message
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>i have vista (build 5600, i'm planning to upgrade to the newest, but
> haven't yet). because i didn't do my homework, and install vista on a
> new partition, i wiped my harddrive to have vista (which isn't a
> problem, all of my files are on an external backup).
>
> every time i put in the xp disc while xp is running, it says that it
> cannot run setup because the version of windows i'm running now
> (vista) is newer than that of the disc (xp).
>
> i then restart to boot from the xp disc. after a couple of questions
> (do you want to install?) it tells me that it cannot read my hard
> drive, and the i may need to run a diagnostic.
>
> to my understanding, my hard drive is one of a newer type that i need
> drivers for. unfortunately i do not have a floppy drive (the newer
> computers with newer hard drives don't tend to come with older storage
> types). do i need to purchase a usb floppy drive, and run the
> drivers? or can i possibly use my flash drive with the drivers on
> them? or is there an easier way?
>
> i appreciate any help. i need xp to run programs like photoshop. if
> anyone else knows if there is a build that supports photoshop, that
> would be much appreciated. i could then just run that, and possibly
> not have any use for xp.
>
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The problem you have run into is solved by the phrase "always install the
older operating system first". There is/was a valid reason for Microsoft
stating this.

My son tried to redo a computer. Since Vista is the newest operating system,
he wanted to have that installed onto the first partition on the hard drive.
He then wanted to create a second partition for Windows XP. This way in the
future he could just delete the XP partition when he felt it was no longer
needed.

This caused many insurmountable problems in installing Windows XP, which
necessitated starting over again from scratch, installing Windows XP on the
first partition and placing Vista on the second partition.

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"wakedude06" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:32056_7753fa3b7bc4e549b7d91156652558f2@winforumz.com...
>i have vista (build 5600, i'm planning to upgrade to the newest, but
> haven't yet). because i didn't do my homework, and install vista on a
> new partition, i wiped my harddrive to have vista (which isn't a
> problem, all of my files are on an external backup).
>
> every time i put in the xp disc while xp is running, it says that it
> cannot run setup because the version of windows i'm running now
> (vista) is newer than that of the disc (xp).
>
> i then restart to boot from the xp disc. after a couple of questions
> (do you want to install?) it tells me that it cannot read my hard
> drive, and the i may need to run a diagnostic.
>
> to my understanding, my hard drive is one of a newer type that i need
> drivers for. unfortunately i do not have a floppy drive (the newer
> computers with newer hard drives don't tend to come with older storage
> types). do i need to purchase a usb floppy drive, and run the
> drivers? or can i possibly use my flash drive with the drivers on
> them? or is there an easier way?
>
> i appreciate any help. i need xp to run programs like photoshop. if
> anyone else knows if there is a build that supports photoshop, that
> would be much appreciated. i could then just run that, and possibly
> not have any use for xp.
>
> --
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Richard Urban schrieb:
> The problem you have run into is solved by the phrase "always install
> the older operating system first". There is/was a valid reason for
> Microsoft stating this.
>
> My son tried to redo a computer. Since Vista is the newest operating
> system, he wanted to have that installed onto the first partition on the
> hard drive. He then wanted to create a second partition for Windows XP.
> This way in the future he could just delete the XP partition when he
> felt it was no longer needed.
>
> This caused many insurmountable problems in installing Windows XP, which
> necessitated starting over again from scratch, installing Windows XP on
> the first partition and placing Vista on the second partition.
>

It is necessary to install the older OS first. It is *not* necessary
to install it in the first partition (drive).

Roy

That is just the way he did it. After I mentioned it to him he didn't want
to start a third time. (-:

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Richard Urban schrieb:
>> The problem you have run into is solved by the phrase "always install the
>> older operating system first". There is/was a valid reason for Microsoft
>> stating this.
>>
>> My son tried to redo a computer. Since Vista is the newest operating
>> system, he wanted to have that installed onto the first partition on the
>> hard drive. He then wanted to create a second partition for Windows XP.
>> This way in the future he could just delete the XP partition when he felt
>> it was no longer needed.
>>
>> This caused many insurmountable problems in installing Windows XP, which
>> necessitated starting over again from scratch, installing Windows XP on
>> the first partition and placing Vista on the second partition.
>>
>
> It is necessary to install the older OS first. It is *not* necessary to
> install it in the first partition (drive).
>
> Roy

I installed Photoshop 5.5 in Vista RC2 64bit and it runs fine.

"wakedude06" wrote:

> i have vista (build 5600, i’m planning to upgrade to the newest, but
> haven’t yet). because i didn’t do my homework, and install vista on a
> new partition, i wiped my harddrive to have vista (which isn’t a
> problem, all of my files are on an external backup).
>
> every time i put in the xp disc while xp is running, it says that it
> cannot run setup because the version of windows i’m running now
> (vista) is newer than that of the disc (xp).
>
> i then restart to boot from the xp disc. after a couple of questions
> (do you want to install?) it tells me that it cannot read my hard
> drive, and the i may need to run a diagnostic.
>
> to my understanding, my hard drive is one of a newer type that i need
> drivers for. unfortunately i do not have a floppy drive (the newer
> computers with newer hard drives don’t tend to come with older storage
> types). do i need to purchase a usb floppy drive, and run the
> drivers? or can i possibly use my flash drive with the drivers on
> them? or is there an easier way?
>
> i appreciate any help. i need xp to run programs like photoshop. if
> anyone else knows if there is a build that supports photoshop, that
> would be much appreciated. i could then just run that, and possibly
> not have any use for xp.
>
> --
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>
>

Richard Urban wrote:
> The problem you have run into is solved by the phrase "always install
> the older operating system first". There is/was a valid reason for
> Microsoft stating this.
>
> My son tried to redo a computer. Since Vista is the newest operating
> system, he wanted to have that installed onto the first partition on the
> hard drive. He then wanted to create a second partition for Windows XP.
> This way in the future he could just delete the XP partition when he
> felt it was no longer needed.
>
> This caused many insurmountable problems in installing Windows XP, which
> necessitated starting over again from scratch, installing Windows XP on
> the first partition and placing Vista on the second partition.

This problem is very easily solved using a 3rd party boot manager, such
as BootIt NG (BING). The different partitions can be hidden from each
other during installation (or permanently) and you can install/reinstall
the OS's in any order.

Believe me, it is just so much easier than dealing with the Microsoft
multi-boot procedure. All OS's are treated exactly the same, and you do
not even need to know that their boot files are different.

BootIT NG can also shrink your existing partitions and create new ones,
if that is what you need. It install as its own "mini-OS", outside of
any operating system.

David Wilkinson

Bill Frisbee wrote:

> Its important to understand, you can almost never put an older OS disk in
> the computer and "downgrade".
>
> If XP cannot read the disk you must have made it dynamic and XP doesn't
> know what to do with it at this point, or possibly Windows XP requires
> device drivers for the disk controller...
>
> A possiblity if you want to keep Vista is to use Virtual PC 2007 which
> will run XP.
>
>
>
> Bill F.
>
>
> "wakedude06" <none@000.com> wrote in message
> news:32056_7753fa3b7bc4e549b7d91156652558f2@winforumz.com...
>>i have vista (build 5600, i'm planning to upgrade to the newest, but
>> haven't yet). because i didn't do my homework, and install vista on a
>> new partition, i wiped my harddrive to have vista (which isn't a
>> problem, all of my files are on an external backup).
>>
>> every time i put in the xp disc while xp is running, it says that it
>> cannot run setup because the version of windows i'm running now
>> (vista) is newer than that of the disc (xp).
>>
>> i then restart to boot from the xp disc. after a couple of questions
>> (do you want to install?) it tells me that it cannot read my hard
>> drive, and the i may need to run a diagnostic.
>>
>> to my understanding, my hard drive is one of a newer type that i need
>> drivers for. unfortunately i do not have a floppy drive (the newer
>> computers with newer hard drives don't tend to come with older storage
>> types). do i need to purchase a usb floppy drive, and run the
>> drivers? or can i possibly use my flash drive with the drivers on
>> them? or is there an easier way?
>>
>> i appreciate any help. i need xp to run programs like photoshop. if
>> anyone else knows if there is a build that supports photoshop, that
>> would be much appreciated. i could then just run that, and possibly
>> not have any use for xp.
>>
>> --
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>> Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact
>> author/report abuse
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>>

While difficult, time consuming, and very annoying, i have managed to unwind
a win98 to winME "upgrade". other os vendors are not so hardheaded /
foolish.

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