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Acronis Disk Director 10

  1. #21


    Colin Barnhorst Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    I am surprised that you are seeing the standard menu. I remember from
    Partition Magic that it had its own. I haven't used a boot manager in four
    or five years, though, so what do I know.

    In reading page 93 of the Disk Director 10 manual it is not clear to me that
    the option to hide an OS hides operating systems from each other. It looks
    like it is an option to remove an entry from the menu for some other reason,
    such as hiding from other users, etc. Can you check this out?

    "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    news:OPgGS$TKHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Then perhaps the problem lies with the Vista boot menu? I'm certainly not
    > using BootItNG i'm only using the standard windows dual boot menu. But, as
    > i say, boot to XP and then back to Vista and 'boom' all restore points
    > disappear.
    >
    > As i have a copy of Acronis Disk Director on my XP drive, i might use
    > TweakUI to 'unhide' the partition and then use Disk Director to hide it
    > and see if that makes any difference. I don't think it will, but i'll give
    > it a try.
    >
    > Colin i bugged, like many other, the problem of disappearing restore
    > points during the beta test ( and this was bugged on every single build) .
    > All i got in reply was 'this will not be fixed'
    >
    > Okay, they haven't fixed it, but i believe Microsoft have a duty to the
    > people who buy Vista to provide a work around fort hose that dual boot.
    > Not everyone can afford Enterpise and Ultimate, so they can forget
    > Bitlocker. What people need is a solid, realiable, workaround that works;
    > not something that's hit or miss! Is anyone from Microsoft listening? I
    > doubt it!
    >
    > --
    > John Barnett MVP
    > Associate Expert
    > Windows Shell/User
    >
    > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
    >
    > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
    > for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
    > of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
    > this mail/post..
    >
    > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    > news:ABD19858-6062-4E14-9D6E-0EC07A05E7C9@microsoft.com...
    >>I don't know what to say. You are demostrating that hiding the drive is
    >>not sufficient. However, during TechBeta the testers found out that using
    >>a boot manager like BootItNG http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ did work
    >>and using BitLocker also worked, but nothing else did. Your findings are
    >>terribly important, that's for sure.
    >>
    >> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    >> news:eI8qgQSKHHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> As I stated in a previous post TweakUI installed on the XP partition
    >>> will allow you to 'hide' the vista partition. But, personally, i don't
    >>> think hiding the partition works. Again today i have had to use XP and,
    >>> again, after rebooting to Vista, the restore points on Vista have
    >>> disappeared again!
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> John Barnett MVP
    >>> Associate Expert
    >>> Windows Shell/User
    >>>

    >>

    >



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  3. #22


    Colin Barnhorst Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Yes, there probably is something else going on. But he is saying it still
    happens after everything is supposed to be set up. Hiding a drive may not
    mean the same thing we think it does with Disk Director.

    "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
    news:e7Y$emUKHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > If he has to go into XP to hide the drive, XP would have already deleted
    > the RP's.
    >



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  4. #23


    Colin Barnhorst Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    By the way, did you check the box for Force Hiding Partitions on the Edit
    Operating Systems wizard? See page 93.

    "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:49420004-89F0-4458-90C3-963C1156985C@microsoft.com...
    >I am surprised that you are seeing the standard menu. I remember from
    >Partition Magic that it had its own. I haven't used a boot manager in four
    >or five years, though, so what do I know.
    >
    > In reading page 93 of the Disk Director 10 manual it is not clear to me
    > that the option to hide an OS hides operating systems from each other. It
    > looks like it is an option to remove an entry from the menu for some other
    > reason, such as hiding from other users, etc. Can you check this out?
    >
    > "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    > news:OPgGS$TKHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Then perhaps the problem lies with the Vista boot menu? I'm certainly not
    >> using BootItNG i'm only using the standard windows dual boot menu. But,
    >> as i say, boot to XP and then back to Vista and 'boom' all restore points
    >> disappear.
    >>
    >> As i have a copy of Acronis Disk Director on my XP drive, i might use
    >> TweakUI to 'unhide' the partition and then use Disk Director to hide it
    >> and see if that makes any difference. I don't think it will, but i'll
    >> give it a try.
    >>
    >> Colin i bugged, like many other, the problem of disappearing restore
    >> points during the beta test ( and this was bugged on every single build)
    >> . All i got in reply was 'this will not be fixed'
    >>
    >> Okay, they haven't fixed it, but i believe Microsoft have a duty to the
    >> people who buy Vista to provide a work around fort hose that dual boot.
    >> Not everyone can afford Enterpise and Ultimate, so they can forget
    >> Bitlocker. What people need is a solid, realiable, workaround that works;
    >> not something that's hit or miss! Is anyone from Microsoft listening? I
    >> doubt it!
    >>
    >> --
    >> John Barnett MVP
    >> Associate Expert
    >> Windows Shell/User
    >>
    >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
    >>
    >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
    >> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
    >> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
    >> this mail/post..
    >>
    >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    >> news:ABD19858-6062-4E14-9D6E-0EC07A05E7C9@microsoft.com...
    >>>I don't know what to say. You are demostrating that hiding the drive is
    >>>not sufficient. However, during TechBeta the testers found out that
    >>>using a boot manager like BootItNG http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ did
    >>>work and using BitLocker also worked, but nothing else did. Your
    >>>findings are terribly important, that's for sure.
    >>>
    >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    >>> news:eI8qgQSKHHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> As I stated in a previous post TweakUI installed on the XP partition
    >>>> will allow you to 'hide' the vista partition. But, personally, i don't
    >>>> think hiding the partition works. Again today i have had to use XP and,
    >>>> again, after rebooting to Vista, the restore points on Vista have
    >>>> disappeared again!
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> John Barnett MVP
    >>>> Associate Expert
    >>>> Windows Shell/User
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



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  5. #24


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Hiding a drive in Disk Director results in one thing. When the PC boots to
    Vista it crashes with a blue screen error:

    Stop: c000021a {fatal system error}
    The session manager initialization system process terminated unexpectedly
    with a ststus of 0xc0000003a (0x00000000 0x00000000)
    The system has been shut down

    Go back into XP and 'unhide' the Vista partition and then reboot and the PC
    boots as if nothing has happened.

    So hiding partitions using Acronis Disk Director is a definate No Go!

    Disk Director, like TweakUI does hide the partition from other users. But in
    my experiment hiding the Vista partition obviously did something because the
    system wouldn't work at all.

    I have a full backup image of the XP and Vista partitions, so i think i'm
    simply going to disable system restore altogether. Incremental backups are
    done regularly so i can't see the sense in wasting my time with system
    restore.

    --
    John Barnett MVP
    Associate Expert
    Windows Shell/User

    Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

    The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
    any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
    use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
    mail/post..

    "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:49420004-89F0-4458-90C3-963C1156985C@microsoft.com...
    >I am surprised that you are seeing the standard menu. I remember from
    >Partition Magic that it had its own. I haven't used a boot manager in four
    >or five years, though, so what do I know.
    >
    > In reading page 93 of the Disk Director 10 manual it is not clear to me
    > that the option to hide an OS hides operating systems from each other. It
    > looks like it is an option to remove an entry from the menu for some other
    > reason, such as hiding from other users, etc. Can you check this out?
    >
    > "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    > news:OPgGS$TKHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Then perhaps the problem lies with the Vista boot menu? I'm certainly not
    >> using BootItNG i'm only using the standard windows dual boot menu. But,
    >> as i say, boot to XP and then back to Vista and 'boom' all restore points
    >> disappear.
    >>
    >> As i have a copy of Acronis Disk Director on my XP drive, i might use
    >> TweakUI to 'unhide' the partition and then use Disk Director to hide it
    >> and see if that makes any difference. I don't think it will, but i'll
    >> give it a try.
    >>
    >> Colin i bugged, like many other, the problem of disappearing restore
    >> points during the beta test ( and this was bugged on every single build)
    >> . All i got in reply was 'this will not be fixed'
    >>
    >> Okay, they haven't fixed it, but i believe Microsoft have a duty to the
    >> people who buy Vista to provide a work around fort hose that dual boot.
    >> Not everyone can afford Enterpise and Ultimate, so they can forget
    >> Bitlocker. What people need is a solid, realiable, workaround that works;
    >> not something that's hit or miss! Is anyone from Microsoft listening? I
    >> doubt it!
    >>
    >> --
    >> John Barnett MVP
    >> Associate Expert
    >> Windows Shell/User
    >>
    >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
    >>
    >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
    >> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
    >> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
    >> this mail/post..
    >>
    >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    >> news:ABD19858-6062-4E14-9D6E-0EC07A05E7C9@microsoft.com...
    >>>I don't know what to say. You are demostrating that hiding the drive is
    >>>not sufficient. However, during TechBeta the testers found out that
    >>>using a boot manager like BootItNG http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ did
    >>>work and using BitLocker also worked, but nothing else did. Your
    >>>findings are terribly important, that's for sure.
    >>>
    >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    >>> news:eI8qgQSKHHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> As I stated in a previous post TweakUI installed on the XP partition
    >>>> will allow you to 'hide' the vista partition. But, personally, i don't
    >>>> think hiding the partition works. Again today i have had to use XP and,
    >>>> again, after rebooting to Vista, the restore points on Vista have
    >>>> disappeared again!
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> John Barnett MVP
    >>>> Associate Expert
    >>>> Windows Shell/User
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



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  6. #25


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    just an update. Paragon Hard Disk manager version 8.0 does exactly the same
    as Acronis Disk Director when you hide the partition. In other words, the
    Vista drive crashes on boot up with the same error message as i outlined in
    my post regarding Acronis Disk Director. Oh well, another failure!

    --
    John Barnett MVP
    Associate Expert
    Windows Shell/User

    Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

    The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
    any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
    use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
    mail/post..

    "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    news:eF6hRRdKHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Hiding a drive in Disk Director results in one thing. When the PC boots to
    > Vista it crashes with a blue screen error:
    >
    > Stop: c000021a {fatal system error}
    > The session manager initialization system process terminated unexpectedly
    > with a ststus of 0xc0000003a (0x00000000 0x00000000)
    > The system has been shut down
    >
    > Go back into XP and 'unhide' the Vista partition and then reboot and the
    > PC boots as if nothing has happened.
    >
    > So hiding partitions using Acronis Disk Director is a definate No Go!
    >
    > Disk Director, like TweakUI does hide the partition from other users. But
    > in my experiment hiding the Vista partition obviously did something
    > because the system wouldn't work at all.
    >
    > I have a full backup image of the XP and Vista partitions, so i think i'm
    > simply going to disable system restore altogether. Incremental backups are
    > done regularly so i can't see the sense in wasting my time with system
    > restore.
    >
    > --
    > John Barnett MVP
    > Associate Expert
    > Windows Shell/User
    >
    > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
    >
    > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
    > for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
    > of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
    > this mail/post..
    >
    > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    > news:49420004-89F0-4458-90C3-963C1156985C@microsoft.com...
    >>I am surprised that you are seeing the standard menu. I remember from
    >>Partition Magic that it had its own. I haven't used a boot manager in
    >>four or five years, though, so what do I know.
    >>
    >> In reading page 93 of the Disk Director 10 manual it is not clear to me
    >> that the option to hide an OS hides operating systems from each other.
    >> It looks like it is an option to remove an entry from the menu for some
    >> other reason, such as hiding from other users, etc. Can you check this
    >> out?
    >>
    >> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    >> news:OPgGS$TKHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>> Then perhaps the problem lies with the Vista boot menu? I'm certainly
    >>> not using BootItNG i'm only using the standard windows dual boot menu.
    >>> But, as i say, boot to XP and then back to Vista and 'boom' all restore
    >>> points disappear.
    >>>
    >>> As i have a copy of Acronis Disk Director on my XP drive, i might use
    >>> TweakUI to 'unhide' the partition and then use Disk Director to hide it
    >>> and see if that makes any difference. I don't think it will, but i'll
    >>> give it a try.
    >>>
    >>> Colin i bugged, like many other, the problem of disappearing restore
    >>> points during the beta test ( and this was bugged on every single build)
    >>> . All i got in reply was 'this will not be fixed'
    >>>
    >>> Okay, they haven't fixed it, but i believe Microsoft have a duty to the
    >>> people who buy Vista to provide a work around fort hose that dual boot.
    >>> Not everyone can afford Enterpise and Ultimate, so they can forget
    >>> Bitlocker. What people need is a solid, realiable, workaround that
    >>> works; not something that's hit or miss! Is anyone from Microsoft
    >>> listening? I doubt it!
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> John Barnett MVP
    >>> Associate Expert
    >>> Windows Shell/User
    >>>
    >>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    >>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
    >>>
    >>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
    >>> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
    >>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not
    >>> be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages
    >>> arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions
    >>> expressed in this mail/post..
    >>>
    >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:ABD19858-6062-4E14-9D6E-0EC07A05E7C9@microsoft.com...
    >>>>I don't know what to say. You are demostrating that hiding the drive is
    >>>>not sufficient. However, during TechBeta the testers found out that
    >>>>using a boot manager like BootItNG http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ did
    >>>>work and using BitLocker also worked, but nothing else did. Your
    >>>>findings are terribly important, that's for sure.
    >>>>
    >>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    >>>> news:eI8qgQSKHHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> As I stated in a previous post TweakUI installed on the XP partition
    >>>>> will allow you to 'hide' the vista partition. But, personally, i don't
    >>>>> think hiding the partition works. Again today i have had to use XP
    >>>>> and, again, after rebooting to Vista, the restore points on Vista have
    >>>>> disappeared again!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> John Barnett MVP
    >>>>> Associate Expert
    >>>>> Windows Shell/User
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



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