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Acronis Disk Director 10

  1. #1


    pvdg42 Guest

    Acronis Disk Director 10

    I've seen several references to the subject product here, indicating that,
    unlike Partition Magic, ADD properly sees and can deal with Vista
    partitions?

    I was about to purchase ADD 10, but asked their rep if ADD 10 supports Vista
    and got the response:

    "There is no Vista support at this time".

    So what is the experience?

    Can ADD 10 be installed in / work from within Vista, or will it work only if
    installed from XP and then can see/manipulate a Vista partition on the same
    machine?




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  3. #2


    JackM Guest

    RE: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Neither Director or true image work within Vista, so your advice from Acronis
    is correct. However, if you dual boot from XP or XPx64, you can use both
    programs to "see" Vista partitions and folders. True Image has a problem
    during restore if used this way, but have used Director from XPx64 and had no
    problems.

    Good luck. Incidentally, IMHO the only way to install Vista when it comes
    out is in dual boot with either XPx86 or XPx64. You can use XP programs
    within this OS to effect changes within Vista without the compatibility
    problems. Be warned - some MS sources say that one should not run XP (any
    version) with Vista. No explanation given. I have been running all Vista
    versions with both XP's in dual boot for a year now without any problems.

    "pvdg42" wrote:

    > I've seen several references to the subject product here, indicating that,
    > unlike Partition Magic, ADD properly sees and can deal with Vista
    > partitions?
    >
    > I was about to purchase ADD 10, but asked their rep if ADD 10 supports Vista
    > and got the response:
    >
    > "There is no Vista support at this time".
    >
    > So what is the experience?
    >
    > Can ADD 10 be installed in / work from within Vista, or will it work only if
    > installed from XP and then can see/manipulate a Vista partition on the same
    > machine?
    >
    >
    >
    >


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  4. #3


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    True Image 10 does work with Vista, i'm using it now. Director,
    unfortunately, doesn't currently work with Vista, but it will work with a
    dual boot system from windows XP.

    --
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    Windows Shell/User

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    mail/post..

    "JackM" <JackM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F6D4834B-DB40-4D1F-A13C-66B45E76439C@microsoft.com...
    > Neither Director or true image work within Vista, so your advice from
    > Acronis
    > is correct. However, if you dual boot from XP or XPx64, you can use both
    > programs to "see" Vista partitions and folders. True Image has a problem
    > during restore if used this way, but have used Director from XPx64 and had
    > no
    > problems.
    >
    > Good luck. Incidentally, IMHO the only way to install Vista when it comes
    > out is in dual boot with either XPx86 or XPx64. You can use XP programs
    > within this OS to effect changes within Vista without the compatibility
    > problems. Be warned - some MS sources say that one should not run XP (any
    > version) with Vista. No explanation given. I have been running all Vista
    > versions with both XP's in dual boot for a year now without any problems.
    >
    > "pvdg42" wrote:
    >
    >> I've seen several references to the subject product here, indicating
    >> that,
    >> unlike Partition Magic, ADD properly sees and can deal with Vista
    >> partitions?
    >>
    >> I was about to purchase ADD 10, but asked their rep if ADD 10 supports
    >> Vista
    >> and got the response:
    >>
    >> "There is no Vista support at this time".
    >>
    >> So what is the experience?
    >>
    >> Can ADD 10 be installed in / work from within Vista, or will it work only
    >> if
    >> installed from XP and then can see/manipulate a Vista partition on the
    >> same
    >> machine?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>



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  5. #4


    Colin Barnhorst Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Don't dual boot XP and Vista unless you can hide the Vista partitions from
    XP's VSS driver, volsnap.sys. If you don't you will lose Vista's VSS files,
    such as system restore points, every time you boot XP (except in Safe Mode).

    "JackM" <JackM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F6D4834B-DB40-4D1F-A13C-66B45E76439C@microsoft.com...
    > Neither Director or true image work within Vista, so your advice from
    > Acronis
    > is correct. However, if you dual boot from XP or XPx64, you can use both
    > programs to "see" Vista partitions and folders. True Image has a problem
    > during restore if used this way, but have used Director from XPx64 and had
    > no
    > problems.
    >
    > Good luck. Incidentally, IMHO the only way to install Vista when it comes
    > out is in dual boot with either XPx86 or XPx64. You can use XP programs
    > within this OS to effect changes within Vista without the compatibility
    > problems. Be warned - some MS sources say that one should not run XP (any
    > version) with Vista. No explanation given. I have been running all Vista
    > versions with both XP's in dual boot for a year now without any problems.
    >
    > "pvdg42" wrote:
    >



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  6. #5


    Bill Frisbee Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Thats not true.

    TrueImage 10.x most assuredly supports Vista.


    Bill F.

    "JackM" <JackM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F6D4834B-DB40-4D1F-A13C-66B45E76439C@microsoft.com...
    > Neither Director or true image work within Vista, so your advice from
    > Acronis
    > is correct. However, if you dual boot from XP or XPx64, you can use both
    > programs to "see" Vista partitions and folders. True Image has a problem
    > during restore if used this way, but have used Director from XPx64 and had
    > no
    > problems.
    >
    > Good luck. Incidentally, IMHO the only way to install Vista when it comes
    > out is in dual boot with either XPx86 or XPx64. You can use XP programs
    > within this OS to effect changes within Vista without the compatibility
    > problems. Be warned - some MS sources say that one should not run XP (any
    > version) with Vista. No explanation given. I have been running all Vista
    > versions with both XP's in dual boot for a year now without any problems.
    >
    > "pvdg42" wrote:
    >
    >> I've seen several references to the subject product here, indicating
    >> that,
    >> unlike Partition Magic, ADD properly sees and can deal with Vista
    >> partitions?
    >>
    >> I was about to purchase ADD 10, but asked their rep if ADD 10 supports
    >> Vista
    >> and got the response:
    >>
    >> "There is no Vista support at this time".
    >>
    >> So what is the experience?
    >>
    >> Can ADD 10 be installed in / work from within Vista, or will it work only
    >> if
    >> installed from XP and then can see/manipulate a Vista partition on the
    >> same
    >> machine?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>



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  7. #6


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Colin i decided to hide the Vista partition from XP and, having used Vista
    for a week or so, had accumulated quite a few restore points. Then i had to
    use the Windows XP operating system to update the sophos anti virus. Imagine
    my surprise whne i rebooted to Vista to find that all of the system restore
    points had been erased. Maybe it's just my PC, but i don't think hiding the
    Vista partition from XP is a reliable way of preventing the loss of system
    restore points.

    --
    John Barnett MVP
    Associate Expert
    Windows Shell/User

    Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

    The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
    any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
    use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
    mail/post..

    "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:93C9096D-7E86-47F0-B30A-6B6A9D38EA5A@microsoft.com...
    > Don't dual boot XP and Vista unless you can hide the Vista partitions from
    > XP's VSS driver, volsnap.sys. If you don't you will lose Vista's VSS
    > files, such as system restore points, every time you boot XP (except in
    > Safe Mode).
    >
    > "JackM" <JackM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:F6D4834B-DB40-4D1F-A13C-66B45E76439C@microsoft.com...
    >> Neither Director or true image work within Vista, so your advice from
    >> Acronis
    >> is correct. However, if you dual boot from XP or XPx64, you can use both
    >> programs to "see" Vista partitions and folders. True Image has a problem
    >> during restore if used this way, but have used Director from XPx64 and
    >> had no
    >> problems.
    >>
    >> Good luck. Incidentally, IMHO the only way to install Vista when it comes
    >> out is in dual boot with either XPx86 or XPx64. You can use XP programs
    >> within this OS to effect changes within Vista without the compatibility
    >> problems. Be warned - some MS sources say that one should not run XP
    >> (any
    >> version) with Vista. No explanation given. I have been running all Vista
    >> versions with both XP's in dual boot for a year now without any problems.
    >>
    >> "pvdg42" wrote:
    >>

    >



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  8. #7


    Colin Barnhorst Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Thanks for updating us. That's bad news. I guess the general advice has to
    be not to dual boot Vista and XP. Perhaps Disk Director just needs more
    work. As a work around, I don't suppose Sophos runs in Safe Mode, does it?
    Safe Mode does not harm the Vista files.

    You may need to set a Vista restore point manually to get SR going again.

    "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    news:eRLLzDgJHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > Colin i decided to hide the Vista partition from XP and, having used Vista
    > for a week or so, had accumulated quite a few restore points. Then i had
    > to use the Windows XP operating system to update the sophos anti virus.
    > Imagine my surprise whne i rebooted to Vista to find that all of the
    > system restore points had been erased. Maybe it's just my PC, but i don't
    > think hiding the Vista partition from XP is a reliable way of preventing
    > the loss of system restore points.
    >
    > --
    > John Barnett MVP
    > Associate Expert
    > Windows Shell/User
    >



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  9. #8


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Colin, I have hidden the Vista partition from XP on my dual boot, but i have
    noticed that when i go back to using windows XP and then reboot to Vista the
    restore points always disappear. I'm beginning to wonder if hiding the Vista
    partition is a satisfactory way of preventing the loss of Vista restore
    points. I haven't yet tried bitlocker so i'm not sure whether this will be a
    suitable alternative for those using premium and ultimate versions of vista.

    --
    John Barnett MVP
    Associate Expert
    Windows Shell/User

    Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

    The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
    any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
    use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
    mail/post..


    "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:93C9096D-7E86-47F0-B30A-6B6A9D38EA5A@microsoft.com...
    > Don't dual boot XP and Vista unless you can hide the Vista partitions from
    > XP's VSS driver, volsnap.sys. If you don't you will lose Vista's VSS
    > files, such as system restore points, every time you boot XP (except in
    > Safe Mode).
    >
    > "JackM" <JackM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:F6D4834B-DB40-4D1F-A13C-66B45E76439C@microsoft.com...
    >> Neither Director or true image work within Vista, so your advice from
    >> Acronis
    >> is correct. However, if you dual boot from XP or XPx64, you can use both
    >> programs to "see" Vista partitions and folders. True Image has a problem
    >> during restore if used this way, but have used Director from XPx64 and
    >> had no
    >> problems.
    >>
    >> Good luck. Incidentally, IMHO the only way to install Vista when it comes
    >> out is in dual boot with either XPx86 or XPx64. You can use XP programs
    >> within this OS to effect changes within Vista without the compatibility
    >> problems. Be warned - some MS sources say that one should not run XP
    >> (any
    >> version) with Vista. No explanation given. I have been running all Vista
    >> versions with both XP's in dual boot for a year now without any problems.
    >>
    >> "pvdg42" wrote:
    >>

    >



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  10. #9


    Colin Barnhorst Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    Those in the TechBeta who used BitLocker were able to avoid the problem.
    Disk Director may not be working right with Vista yet. Hiding the partition
    will work. The problem is doing it. After the holidays do you plan on
    asking Acronis about this? I have the Acronis software too, through the
    same program you do, but I have not used the Disk Director.

    "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    news:OZLVnHqJHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Colin, I have hidden the Vista partition from XP on my dual boot, but i
    > have noticed that when i go back to using windows XP and then reboot to
    > Vista the restore points always disappear. I'm beginning to wonder if
    > hiding the Vista partition is a satisfactory way of preventing the loss of
    > Vista restore points. I haven't yet tried bitlocker so i'm not sure
    > whether this will be a suitable alternative for those using premium and
    > ultimate versions of vista.
    >
    > --
    > John Barnett MVP
    > Associate Expert
    > Windows Shell/User
    >



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  11. #10


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Acronis Disk Director 10

    To hide the partition i used TweakUI from the XP partition (obviously
    tweakui will not install on vista). This was by far the simplest way of
    hiding the partitions. Of course disk director is not the only application
    in my arsenal, so i'm not relying upon disk director to solely manage my
    partitions. I have reviewed a lot of Paragon software on my xp website
    http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org which has proved more than capable of
    imaging, partitioning, extending, shrinking, hiding,etc. Unfortunately, at
    the moment, Paragon does not support Vista, although Vista capable copies of
    their software will be made available. I would probably imagine they would
    start sending me copies of the Vista capable software sometime in january.

    I can make enquiries at Acronis regarding Disk Director and see what they
    have to say, but i would imagine a vista capable edition is not far off. in
    which case the answer i get back will be more like 'watch this space' :-)

    --
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    Associate Expert
    Windows Shell/User

    Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

    The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
    any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
    use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
    mail/post..

    "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:6329E467-9BD7-4577-A02C-990593C8B169@microsoft.com...
    > Those in the TechBeta who used BitLocker were able to avoid the problem.
    > Disk Director may not be working right with Vista yet. Hiding the
    > partition will work. The problem is doing it. After the holidays do you
    > plan on asking Acronis about this? I have the Acronis software too,
    > through the same program you do, but I have not used the Disk Director.
    >
    > "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
    > news:OZLVnHqJHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> Colin, I have hidden the Vista partition from XP on my dual boot, but i
    >> have noticed that when i go back to using windows XP and then reboot to
    >> Vista the restore points always disappear. I'm beginning to wonder if
    >> hiding the Vista partition is a satisfactory way of preventing the loss
    >> of Vista restore points. I haven't yet tried bitlocker so i'm not sure
    >> whether this will be a suitable alternative for those using premium and
    >> ultimate versions of vista.
    >>
    >> --
    >> John Barnett MVP
    >> Associate Expert
    >> Windows Shell/User
    >>

    >



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