Vista - BIOS check error in Vista Ultimate

On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has the
BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,

the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the BIOS
to 1.7 prior to installation.

How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
bypassed?

I don't know what Bios version is required for the Tecra M4 to install
Vista. I've been able to install any build of Vista Bios that was updated
for XP but not Vista, because there has been no Vista update offered, and
so have a couple hundred thousand or more other people.

Are you installing from a DVD start or from the XP desktop? If you are
installing from the XP desktop, try installing via a restart.

CH

"ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:793F59C3-E006-4EFE-8AD0-DFFDF0395CFA@microsoft.com...
> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has
> the
> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
>
> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
> BIOS
> to 1.7 prior to installation.
>
> How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> bypassed?
>

as stated, I do already have the correct BIOS installed on the Tecra, since I
do already have Vista RC1 installed.

Statements about Windows XP are pointless since that is not the issue and I
never had any problems with XP either.

Vista does have new problems/bugs.

One of them is this stupid problem where it says I don't have the 1.7
version of the BIOS even though I most certainly do.

Please only offer help if you KNOW what you are talking about.


"Chad Harris" wrote:

> I don't know what Bios version is required for the Tecra M4 to install
> Vista. I've been able to install any build of Vista Bios that was updated
> for XP but not Vista, because there has been no Vista update offered, and
> so have a couple hundred thousand or more other people.
>
> Are you installing from a DVD start or from the XP desktop? If you are
> installing from the XP desktop, try installing via a restart.
>
> CH
>
> "ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:793F59C3-E006-4EFE-8AD0-DFFDF0395CFA@microsoft.com...
> > On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has
> > the
> > BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> >
> > the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
> > BIOS
> > to 1.7 prior to installation.
> >
> > How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> > bypassed?
> >
>
>
>

Just install and see if there really is a problem. If you are not
comfortable doing that then contact the manufacturer to confirm that 1.7
will support Vista. The BIOS is OS agnostic anyway.

"ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8A5C02D0-9C98-4F48-B851-B45823B38E83@microsoft.com...
> as stated, I do already have the correct BIOS installed on the Tecra,
> since I
> do already have Vista RC1 installed.
>
> Statements about Windows XP are pointless since that is not the issue and
> I
> never had any problems with XP either.
>
> Vista does have new problems/bugs.
>
> One of them is this stupid problem where it says I don't have the 1.7
> version of the BIOS even though I most certainly do.
>
> Please only offer help if you KNOW what you are talking about.
>
>

liv-M--

A search on this group and on the Vista general group shows hundreds of
answers from me and none from you.

It's hard as hell to know anything other than I typed, because of the hair
brained way you expressed yourself.

Simply put, your OP implies you are hung up installing Vista. Something
about the phrase " the need to update the BIOS to 1.7 prior to installation"
evokes that.

On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has the
BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,

the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the BIOS
to 1.7 prior to installation.

10/10 people who help regularly on these groups (you aren't one) would read
your OP that you are running into a snag when you try to install Vista. I
didn't make any post to you regarding Win XP. I just made the point that a
few hundered thousand Vista users that included TBTs, MSDN, Technet, CPP,
and TAP users were able to use every build of Vista from July 05 through RTM
without touching a bios update on every form factor on the planet.

Other than that--I'd read up on How to Ask A Question

www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

There is an old adage mommy didn't teach you, so crawl back up on her knee
and see if you can get burped. "Don't piss on potential help--it's not
going to get your question answered."

I have no trouble setting up Vista on any machine someone can show me..
Obviously you have a problem and the bigger one in the way of solving it is
you.

CH


"Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
news:e62ADzFOHHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I don't know what Bios version is required for the Tecra M4 to install
>Vista. I've been able to install any build of Vista Bios that was updated
>for XP but not Vista, because there has been no Vista update offered, and
>so have a couple hundred thousand or more other people.
>
> Are you installing from a DVD start or from the XP desktop? If you are
> installing from the XP desktop, try installing via a restart.
>
> CH
>
> "ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:793F59C3-E006-4EFE-8AD0-DFFDF0395CFA@microsoft.com...
>> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has
>> the
>> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
>>
>> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
>> BIOS
>> to 1.7 prior to installation.
>>
>> How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
>> bypassed?
>>
>
>

LOL Colin

I may not be able to solve every problem on these groups, but I have a
pretty good sense of when the OP posted a screwy, misleading, rambling, and
unclear question that doesn't get improved by pissing on the help.

The OP just insisted to me in an insulting way I might add that he/she/it
already has Vista installed on the Tecra which raises the question "What the
hell was he posting about in the first place" not to mention the point that
the BIOS is OS agnostic.

He/She/It is also not posting any problem that would suggest the bios is
interfeering with any OS.

It's times like these that I always feel great about the fact I can solve
most problems as to Vista or XP setiup and the OP can't whatever it's
problem is.

The OP is using the time he/she/it needs to take composing a relevant 3rd
grade level sentence or googling to solve its problem.

CH

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:B59C58B2-22A8-4B85-A66D-778337DD1919@microsoft.com...
> Just install and see if there really is a problem. If you are not
> comfortable doing that then contact the manufacturer to confirm that 1.7
> will support Vista. The BIOS is OS agnostic anyway.
>
> "ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8A5C02D0-9C98-4F48-B851-B45823B38E83@microsoft.com...
>> as stated, I do already have the correct BIOS installed on the Tecra,
>> since I
>> do already have Vista RC1 installed.
>>
>> Statements about Windows XP are pointless since that is not the issue and
>> I
>> never had any problems with XP either.
>>
>> Vista does have new problems/bugs.
>>
>> One of them is this stupid problem where it says I don't have the 1.7
>> version of the BIOS even though I most certainly do.
>>
>> Please only offer help if you KNOW what you are talking about.
>>
>>
>

Chad, if you can't help, then just remain silent.

This is a clasic example of the no-help fake know-it-alls that plug up these
forums, and why I rarely bother with them.

1. Vista RC1 required BIOS 1.7 to install, so I updated BIOS to 1.7.

2. Now production release Vista claims that it needs BIOS 1.7, but since 1.7
is already installed, obviously Vista is WRONG.

You apparently can't read either since my original post made this clear
enough for the technical expert peers that I work with daily out in the real
world.

I want a response from Microsoft about their stupid BIOS check that isn't
working correctly, or a response from someone with an answer, not just a
bunch of stupid, obvious, and pointless follow-up questions.


"Chad Harris" wrote:

> liv-M--
>
> A search on this group and on the Vista general group shows hundreds of
> answers from me and none from you.
>
> It's hard as hell to know anything other than I typed, because of the hair
> brained way you expressed yourself.
>
> Simply put, your OP implies you are hung up installing Vista. Something
> about the phrase " the need to update the BIOS to 1.7 prior to installation"
> evokes that.
>
> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has the
> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
>
> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the BIOS
> to 1.7 prior to installation.
>
> 10/10 people who help regularly on these groups (you aren't one) would read
> your OP that you are running into a snag when you try to install Vista. I
> didn't make any post to you regarding Win XP. I just made the point that a
> few hundered thousand Vista users that included TBTs, MSDN, Technet, CPP,
> and TAP users were able to use every build of Vista from July 05 through RTM
> without touching a bios update on every form factor on the planet.
>
> Other than that--I'd read up on How to Ask A Question
>
> www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> There is an old adage mommy didn't teach you, so crawl back up on her knee
> and see if you can get burped. "Don't piss on potential help--it's not
> going to get your question answered."
>
> I have no trouble setting up Vista on any machine someone can show me..
> Obviously you have a problem and the bigger one in the way of solving it is
> you.
>
> CH
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
> news:e62ADzFOHHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I don't know what Bios version is required for the Tecra M4 to install
> >Vista. I've been able to install any build of Vista Bios that was updated
> >for XP but not Vista, because there has been no Vista update offered, and
> >so have a couple hundred thousand or more other people.
> >
> > Are you installing from a DVD start or from the XP desktop? If you are
> > installing from the XP desktop, try installing via a restart.
> >
> > CH
> >
> > "ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:793F59C3-E006-4EFE-8AD0-DFFDF0395CFA@microsoft.com...
> >> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has
> >> the
> >> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> >>
> >> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
> >> BIOS
> >> to 1.7 prior to installation.
> >>
> >> How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> >> bypassed?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

The issue is that you can't read, or didn't bother to read carefully enough.
No matter how many pointless posts you are offering to 'help' people, that
doesn't mean that you are somehow infallible--especially when you read a
short, simple post and turn it into stupid feedback questions and then an
idiotic rant when I reject them.

"Chad Harris" wrote:

> LOL Colin
>
> I may not be able to solve every problem on these groups, but I have a
> pretty good sense of when the OP posted a screwy, misleading, rambling, and
> unclear question that doesn't get improved by pissing on the help.
>
> The OP just insisted to me in an insulting way I might add that he/she/it
> already has Vista installed on the Tecra which raises the question "What the
> hell was he posting about in the first place" not to mention the point that
> the BIOS is OS agnostic.
>
> He/She/It is also not posting any problem that would suggest the bios is
> interfeering with any OS.
>
> It's times like these that I always feel great about the fact I can solve
> most problems as to Vista or XP setiup and the OP can't whatever it's
> problem is.
>
> The OP is using the time he/she/it needs to take composing a relevant 3rd
> grade level sentence or googling to solve its problem.
>
> CH
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:B59C58B2-22A8-4B85-A66D-778337DD1919@microsoft.com...
> > Just install and see if there really is a problem. If you are not
> > comfortable doing that then contact the manufacturer to confirm that 1.7
> > will support Vista. The BIOS is OS agnostic anyway.
> >
> > "ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:8A5C02D0-9C98-4F48-B851-B45823B38E83@microsoft.com...
> >> as stated, I do already have the correct BIOS installed on the Tecra,
> >> since I
> >> do already have Vista RC1 installed.
> >>
> >> Statements about Windows XP are pointless since that is not the issue and
> >> I
> >> never had any problems with XP either.
> >>
> >> Vista does have new problems/bugs.
> >>
> >> One of them is this stupid problem where it says I don't have the 1.7
> >> version of the BIOS even though I most certainly do.
> >>
> >> Please only offer help if you KNOW what you are talking about.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>

As previously stated, the release version of Vista Ultimate will not install
due to its incorrect BIOS check step. Once Vista decides it has encountered a
BIOS that it doesn't like, even if that determination contradicts Vista's own
error message text, the installation quits.

To recap, Vista RC1 already in place.
When installing update to Vista Ultimate final release, the final release
version says that it needs BIOS 1.7 to proceed.
However, BIOS 1.7 is already in place because I had to have it in place to
get Vista RC1 onto the machine.
Therefore, the BIOS check in production Vista is buggy and I still need a
work-around.

I have carefully read all of the posts regarding BIOS and Vista on this
forum, and the only work-around to Microsoft's stupid BIOS check mess that I
have found is a full clean install of Vista from the boot DVD. I have done
that also in the past to work around the BIOS check message that seems to
only come when trying to run the upgrade. Since I want to upgrade and not do
the clean install, I still need a new work-around that no one has yet posted
anywhere that I've looked on the Internet for the past 3 days.

Microsoft should have provided a command line switch on setup.exe to bypass
the BIOS check for those who are willing to risk that their warning is wrong.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Just install and see if there really is a problem. If you are not
> comfortable doing that then contact the manufacturer to confirm that 1.7
> will support Vista. The BIOS is OS agnostic anyway.
>
> "ilv-m" <ilvm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8A5C02D0-9C98-4F48-B851-B45823B38E83@microsoft.com...
> > as stated, I do already have the correct BIOS installed on the Tecra,
> > since I
> > do already have Vista RC1 installed.
> >
> > Statements about Windows XP are pointless since that is not the issue and
> > I
> > never had any problems with XP either.
> >
> > Vista does have new problems/bugs.
> >
> > One of them is this stupid problem where it says I don't have the 1.7
> > version of the BIOS even though I most certainly do.
> >
> > Please only offer help if you KNOW what you are talking about.
> >
> >
>

For this Tecra M4, allowing Vista to control PnP worked fine for Vista RC1.

According to Vista RC1, the BIOS message on Vista Ultimate release rev, &
Toshiba, all stipulate that Tecra M4 BIOS 1.7 supports Vista.

All other systems updated from RC1 to Vista Ultimate-released went very,
very smoothly.

This Tecra M4 tablet PC with Pentium M, PCI-Express, SATA HDD, 2GB RAM,
1440x1050 LCD--is the one and only system where we experienced any issue with
Vista at all--and it's only this final step of getting the release version of
SETUP to proceed with bumping it from RC1 to the release revision.

We even had Beta2 running very smoothly on this same Tecra.


"FireWall2" wrote:

> ilv-m,
>
> By chance, does your BIOS provide the Option for allowing the BIOS install
> all Plug and Play devices?
>
> If so, verify the BIOS is set to Default, allowing BIOS install PnP, not
> Vista. Makes installing Vista much smoother, preventing device conflicts.
>
> The above is conditional that indeed your BIOS is Vista Compatible. Also,
> verify which Drive is set as first Boot Drive, should be CD / DVD.
> --
> Firewall
>
> Disclaimer:
> Accept Vista as it is, or, Abandon Vista
>
>
> "ilv-m" wrote:
>
> > On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has the
> > BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> >
> > the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the BIOS
> > to 1.7 prior to installation.
> >
> > How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> > bypassed?
> >