Vista - YOU CAN DO A CLEAN INSTALL FROM AN UPGRADE VERSION

Straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...gradeinfo.mspx

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Mike

You cannot use an upgrade key to perform a clean installation of Windows Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"MrMikeH" wrote:

Straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...gradeinfo.mspx

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Mike

Can you upgrade from an upgrade of Windows XP? Maybe, but you would be forced
to install every version you upgraded from prior to the installation... Very
lengthy process.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> You cannot use an upgrade key to perform a clean installation of Windows Vista
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
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>
> "MrMikeH" wrote:
>
> Straight from the horse's mouth:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...gradeinfo.mspx
>
> --
> Mike

I know you can't do a clean install from the DVD (can't boot from DVD), but
from what I have heard, and what seems to be indicated on the MS website
(method 1 in the KB article), is that you can start it from within an
existing valid XP installation and you will have the option of installing it
on another partition without wiping out your XP installation. Maybe we will
have to wait and see until someone tries it after the release date. Just
doesn't seem logical that they would force you to wipeout your XP
installation just to upgrade to Vista. It's never worked that way before.
That would be extremely greedy of them considering the $ they are charging
for the full versions. That would force many cautious users to buy full
licenses just to be safe or in most cases would cause them just to stay with
XP.

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Mike

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> You cannot use an upgrade key to perform a clean installation of Windows
> Vista
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "MrMikeH" wrote:
>
> Straight from the horse's mouth:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...gradeinfo.mspx
>
> --
> Mike

Yes.

You might have to use a Win98 cd or something to reinstall the XP, but as
long as a genuine copy of XP is installed and activated that is all you need
to install an upgrade edtion of Vista.

"Adam" <Adam@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Can you upgrade from an upgrade of Windows XP? Maybe, but you would be
> forced
> to install every version you upgraded from prior to the installation...
> Very
> lengthy process.
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> You cannot use an upgrade key to perform a clean installation of Windows
>> Vista
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "MrMikeH" wrote:
>>
>> Straight from the horse's mouth:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...gradeinfo.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Mike

A link please? There was a reference to that on Get Ready some time ago,
but the upgrade matrix page has been heavily edited recently and there is no
longer any such reference. I wondered at the time why it said that and
thought then that it might be an error. It does not make sense for an
upgrade edition to allow anything other than an upgrade of the OS that
qualifies you for the upgrade edition purchase. Anything else would set up
an improperly licensed dual boot.

"MrMikeH" <MrMikeH@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I know you can't do a clean install from the DVD (can't boot from DVD), but
>from what I have heard, and what seems to be indicated on the MS website
>(method 1 in the KB article), is that you can start it from within an
>existing valid XP installation and you will have the option of installing
>it on another partition without wiping out your XP installation. Maybe we
>will have to wait and see until someone tries it after the release date.
>Just doesn't seem logical that they would force you to wipeout your XP
>installation just to upgrade to Vista. It's never worked that way before.
>That would be extremely greedy of them considering the $ they are charging
>for the full versions. That would force many cautious users to buy full
>licenses just to be safe or in most cases would cause them just to stay
>with XP.
>
> --
> Mike
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:98826E64-89CD-430C-A990-8956A7AE9BB7@microsoft.com...
>> You cannot use an upgrade key to perform a clean installation of Windows
>> Vista
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "MrMikeH" wrote:
>>
>> Straight from the horse's mouth:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...gradeinfo.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Mike
>

Michael, when MS talks about a clean install they do not mean an install preceded by a reformat. They use clean install but in Setup there is no option called "clean install." It is called "custom install." The only difference between a custom install and an upgrade install is whether or not your files, settings, and apps are retained or rolled into a windows.old folder. MS considers that a "clean" install.
"MrMikeH" <MrMikeH@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uU9zdNNQHHA.4156@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...gradeinfo.mspx

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Mike

All,

I just received my Action Pack update, which has an Upgrade version of Vista
Business. I'm trying to install it on my Vista ready notebook. And yes,
I've run into exactly what you're talking about here. I tried to boot off
the disc and install and I was told I couldn't since it's an upgrade disc.
So I booted into XP and am doing the upgrade that way. What I don't like
about what I see is I always like to do a fresh install, and I can't. Even
though I've selected to do a "Clean Install", I like to blow away the
partition and then do a clean install that way. Read: very clean install.
Also, my notebook came with the HD partitioned, which I don't like. I was
planning on deleting the partition and having 1 large drive. That doesn't
seem possible with the upgrade CD. The crazy thing is that at the bottom of
the screen, where it's asking where do I want to install Windows, it tells
me "to make changes to partitions, restart Windows from the installation
disc". But since it's an upgrade disc, that wouldn't do any good, right?

Andre

Upgrade disks, at least retail ones, are supposed to allow booting to
perform repair functions. You also may find that the Disk Management
program will allow you to delete the unwanted partition and expand your
Vista partition.


"Andre" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> All,
>
> I just received my Action Pack update, which has an Upgrade version of
> Vista Business. I'm trying to install it on my Vista ready notebook. And
> yes, I've run into exactly what you're talking about here. I tried to
> boot off the disc and install and I was told I couldn't since it's an
> upgrade disc. So I booted into XP and am doing the upgrade that way. What
> I don't like about what I see is I always like to do a fresh install, and
> I can't. Even though I've selected to do a "Clean Install", I like to
> blow away the partition and then do a clean install that way. Read: very
> clean install. Also, my notebook came with the HD partitioned, which I
> don't like. I was planning on deleting the partition and having 1 large
> drive. That doesn't seem possible with the upgrade CD. The crazy thing
> is that at the bottom of the screen, where it's asking where do I want to
> install Windows, it tells me "to make changes to partitions, restart
> Windows from the installation disc". But since it's an upgrade disc, that
> wouldn't do any good, right?
>
> Andre
>

Did you select "Custom Installation"?
From there you can delete the partitions and install from there.

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"Andre" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> All,
>
> I just received my Action Pack update, which has an Upgrade version of
> Vista Business. I'm trying to install it on my Vista ready notebook. And
> yes, I've run into exactly what you're talking about here. I tried to
> boot off the disc and install and I was told I couldn't since it's an
> upgrade disc. So I booted into XP and am doing the upgrade that way. What
> I don't like about what I see is I always like to do a fresh install, and
> I can't. Even though I've selected to do a "Clean Install", I like to
> blow away the partition and then do a clean install that way. Read: very
> clean install. Also, my notebook came with the HD partitioned, which I
> don't like. I was planning on deleting the partition and having 1 large
> drive. That doesn't seem possible with the upgrade CD. The crazy thing
> is that at the bottom of the screen, where it's asking where do I want to
> install Windows, it tells me "to make changes to partitions, restart
> Windows from the installation disc". But since it's an upgrade disc, that
> wouldn't do any good, right?
>
> Andre