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Upgrade vs Clean Install
  1. #1


    John Leonard - Sage Guest

    Upgrade vs Clean Install

    There has been a lot of discussion re this topic.

    I know clean is the best way - but very time consuming!



    Is there concern with the Upgrade of XP Pro to Vista?

    If all recommendations i.e. follow upgrade advisor, remove Norton, USB
    devices .......etc. is done, will the upgrade run into problems??

    Thx



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  2. #2


    GTS Guest

    Re: Upgrade vs Clean Install

    The upgrade will usually work fine if the XP installation is stable and
    compatibility issues are addressed as you noted. It's always wise to do a
    full backup first thought. If that is done, there is no risk in trying the
    upgrade.

    "John Leonard - Sage" <sagegrp@adelphia.net> wrote in message
    news:OGMYisBXHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > There has been a lot of discussion re this topic.
    >
    > I know clean is the best way - but very time consuming!
    >
    > Is there concern with the Upgrade of XP Pro to Vista?
    >
    > If all recommendations i.e. follow upgrade advisor, remove Norton, USB
    > devices .......etc. is done, will the upgrade run into problems??
    >
    > Thx
    >
    >



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  3. #3


    Adam Albright Guest

    Re: Upgrade vs Clean Install

    On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:03:15 -0500, "John Leonard - Sage"
    <sagegrp@adelphia.net> wrote:

    >There has been a lot of discussion re this topic.
    >
    >I know clean is the best way - but very time consuming!
    >
    >Is there concern with the Upgrade of XP Pro to Vista?
    >
    >If all recommendations i.e. follow upgrade advisor, remove Norton, USB
    >devices .......etc. is done, will the upgrade run into problems??
    >
    >Thx
    >

    What problems you'll run into...if any, depends on your hardware, even
    what version, (motherboards for example have version numbers where
    things might have changed, sometimes radically) the BIOS version
    they're running, your hardware drivers and so on. There is no set
    answer. That is what seperates a PC system from say a Mac system.
    There is almost a infinite number of combinations on the PC possible
    when you mix in the wide assortment of hardware cards.

    So to give yourself the best chance of avoiding problems.

    1. Disable or remove EVERYTHING that the Vista Upgrade Advisor
    mentions, not just nags about. If it says it "may" have a
    problem with such and such device, remove or disable it. Very
    likely it will be easy to reinstall AFTER Vista is up and
    running because Vista has to be up and running for it to
    install automatically a lot of Vista ready drivers.

    2. Before trying to upgrade reagardless if doing a clean or
    install in place, go to BIOS and reduce settings to bare
    minimum. You don't need or want overclocking or anything
    fancy just to install a new OS. Again, once Vista is up
    then start restoring all the bells and whistles one
    at a time.

    3. Avoid having devices attached or optons known to cause
    troube for some people. These include SATA drives, USB
    controllers, disconnect scanners, printers, multiple
    graphic cards (leave one), anything you don't need to boot
    the system.

    4. If you are going to attempt a install in place to avoid having to
    reinstall all your applications and redo your settings, ALWAYS
    back-up all your critial files first and best if possible make
    copies and store somewhere else OTHER THAN the drive partation you
    plan on installing Vista to.

    5. If you have multiple drives and you're comfortable working inside
    your PC it makes sense to disconnect both the power and data cables
    on all the drives you don't need to install Vista. Obviously if a
    drive if off, Vista can't mess it or its data up. Turn them back
    on one at a time after Vista is installed and running correctly.





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  4. #4


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Upgrade vs Clean Install

    Follow all the recommendations of the upgrade advisor, backup important
    documents/files etc and you should upgrade with ease. When i upgraded it
    took 4 hours to upgrade, a clean install, including installing all the other
    software i use took just over 2.5 hours. Obviously, in my case it was easier
    to do a clean install.

    One point worth mentioning is that, when you upgrade from XP to Vista, Vista
    uses the XP product key. Therefore, after upgrade, your XP CD is useless to
    you. You can't install XP on another computer because Vista is using the
    product code number. As far as i know, if you didn't like Vista your XP disk
    would still be useless so you couldn't erase Vista and the re-install XP.


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    "John Leonard - Sage" <sagegrp@adelphia.net> wrote in message
    news:OGMYisBXHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > There has been a lot of discussion re this topic.
    >
    > I know clean is the best way - but very time consuming!
    >
    > Is there concern with the Upgrade of XP Pro to Vista?
    >
    > If all recommendations i.e. follow upgrade advisor, remove Norton, USB
    > devices .......etc. is done, will the upgrade run into problems??
    >
    > Thx
    >
    >



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  5. #5


    Gary VanderMolen Guest

    Re: Upgrade vs Clean Install

    "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message news:edKQlvCXHHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > One point worth mentioning is that, when you upgrade from XP to Vista, Vista
    > uses the XP product key. Therefore, after upgrade, your XP CD is useless to
    > you. You can't install XP on another computer because Vista is using the
    > product code number. As far as i know, if you didn't like Vista your XP disk
    > would still be useless so you couldn't erase Vista and the re-install XP.


    Do you have an authoritative source for that "useless" remark?
    I know what the EULA says, but you're implying that MS will
    blacklist the XP product key if it has been used with a Vista upgrade.
    AFAIK, a Vista upgrade will use its own product key, not the XP
    product key.

    Gary VanderMolen

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  6. #6


    John Leonard - Sage Guest

    Re: Upgrade vs Clean Install

    Thanks for all the help and support.

    I will do all that has been posted and perform the UPGRADE to Vista Bisiness
    carefully.

    One last question - does anyone know if I would have a problem with Intuit
    Tax software? I trying to decide whether or not to do the upgrade now or
    wait until my Business and Personal Taxes are filed?


    "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
    news:r01eu2hm1vh81csst996rt0t739fpugf35@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:03:15 -0500, "John Leonard - Sage"
    > <sagegrp@adelphia.net> wrote:
    >
    >>There has been a lot of discussion re this topic.
    >>
    >>I know clean is the best way - but very time consuming!
    >>
    >>Is there concern with the Upgrade of XP Pro to Vista?
    >>
    >>If all recommendations i.e. follow upgrade advisor, remove Norton, USB
    >>devices .......etc. is done, will the upgrade run into problems??
    >>
    >>Thx
    >>

    > What problems you'll run into...if any, depends on your hardware, even
    > what version, (motherboards for example have version numbers where
    > things might have changed, sometimes radically) the BIOS version
    > they're running, your hardware drivers and so on. There is no set
    > answer. That is what seperates a PC system from say a Mac system.
    > There is almost a infinite number of combinations on the PC possible
    > when you mix in the wide assortment of hardware cards.
    >
    > So to give yourself the best chance of avoiding problems.
    >
    > 1. Disable or remove EVERYTHING that the Vista Upgrade Advisor
    > mentions, not just nags about. If it says it "may" have a
    > problem with such and such device, remove or disable it. Very
    > likely it will be easy to reinstall AFTER Vista is up and
    > running because Vista has to be up and running for it to
    > install automatically a lot of Vista ready drivers.
    >
    > 2. Before trying to upgrade reagardless if doing a clean or
    > install in place, go to BIOS and reduce settings to bare
    > minimum. You don't need or want overclocking or anything
    > fancy just to install a new OS. Again, once Vista is up
    > then start restoring all the bells and whistles one
    > at a time.
    >
    > 3. Avoid having devices attached or optons known to cause
    > troube for some people. These include SATA drives, USB
    > controllers, disconnect scanners, printers, multiple
    > graphic cards (leave one), anything you don't need to boot
    > the system.
    >
    > 4. If you are going to attempt a install in place to avoid having to
    > reinstall all your applications and redo your settings, ALWAYS
    > back-up all your critial files first and best if possible make
    > copies and store somewhere else OTHER THAN the drive partation you
    > plan on installing Vista to.
    >
    > 5. If you have multiple drives and you're comfortable working inside
    > your PC it makes sense to disconnect both the power and data cables
    > on all the drives you don't need to install Vista. Obviously if a
    > drive if off, Vista can't mess it or its data up. Turn them back
    > on one at a time after Vista is installed and running correctly.
    >
    >
    >
    >




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