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Re: older programs and Vista

  1. #1


    Richard G. Harper Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    If software doesn't recognize Vista and/or doesn't want to install under
    Vista, I would not force it to or try to install it. Either get updated
    software or do without.



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    "Ralph" <Ralph@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:BFC4258F-7A46-4EDA-9D5F-82A7A96BD4E6@microsoft.com...
    > Hey All. I recently purchased a Gateway with pre-installed Vista Home
    > Premium. My last computer suffered damage to the motherboard, so I
    > salvaged
    > the hard drive and video card and placed them in the new Gateway. They
    > seem
    > to work fine with no reported conflicts. I intended to reinstall my old
    > programs to the primary hard drive one by one, then gather saved data like
    > pics and vids from the old hard drive followed by a wipe of the old hard
    > drive. However, several programs won't recognize Vista as a operating
    > system
    > and I can't install them. Some will run from their executables off the
    > old
    > hard drive.
    > Is there any danger to the system by running .exe's off the old hard drive
    > since none of those are in the registry? Also, I think of Vista as
    > generally a useless memory devouring, piece of crap so can I make the
    > computer load and use XP off the old hard drive?
    > On another note, I continually recieve COM Surrogate, run32dll, and
    > windows
    > media player shutdown alerts while trying to capture video from my DV
    > camcorder.
    >
    > Any help is appreciated.




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  2. #2


    Mark Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    Now there's a solution... just do without.
    Let's see...
    Flash Player will not run if UAC is running.
    But, who needs animation on the web?

    Of course, it's not a problem if you don't use IE 7 which came with
    Vista and wasn't a problem in Win XP because IE 7 didn't come with
    "Protected Mode." (But, it doesn't help to turn it off.)

    "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
    news:OjXH7UrXHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > If software doesn't recognize Vista and/or doesn't want to install under
    > Vista, I would not force it to or try to install it. Either get updated
    > software or do without.
    >
    > --
    > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
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    > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
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    >
    >
    > "Ralph" <Ralph@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:BFC4258F-7A46-4EDA-9D5F-82A7A96BD4E6@microsoft.com...
    >> Hey All. I recently purchased a Gateway with pre-installed Vista Home
    >> Premium. My last computer suffered damage to the motherboard, so I
    >> salvaged
    >> the hard drive and video card and placed them in the new Gateway. They
    >> seem
    >> to work fine with no reported conflicts. I intended to reinstall my old
    >> programs to the primary hard drive one by one, then gather saved data
    >> like
    >> pics and vids from the old hard drive followed by a wipe of the old hard
    >> drive. However, several programs won't recognize Vista as a operating
    >> system
    >> and I can't install them. Some will run from their executables off the
    >> old
    >> hard drive.
    >> Is there any danger to the system by running .exe's off the old hard
    >> drive
    >> since none of those are in the registry? Also, I think of Vista as
    >> generally a useless memory devouring, piece of crap so can I make the
    >> computer load and use XP off the old hard drive?
    >> On another note, I continually recieve COM Surrogate, run32dll, and
    >> windows
    >> media player shutdown alerts while trying to capture video from my DV
    >> camcorder.
    >>
    >> Any help is appreciated.

    >
    >



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  3. #3


    nicholas hall Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    Flash player WILL run with UAC running (well it does on my computer).

    The trouble with people expect ALL their XP software to run fine on vista.
    Some of the programs (or if not most) will needed to be updated to run fine
    in vista.
    Saying this though it does not mean that there is anything wrong with vista.
    I am running vista and I have NO complaints about it. I have a fair amount
    of software on my computer that works without ANY problems.

    NIK

    "Mark" <jmhonzell@insightbb.com> wrote in message
    news:OiFvi$rXHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Now there's a solution... just do without.
    > Let's see...
    > Flash Player will not run if UAC is running.
    > But, who needs animation on the web?
    >
    > Of course, it's not a problem if you don't use IE 7 which came with
    > Vista and wasn't a problem in Win XP because IE 7 didn't come with
    > "Protected Mode." (But, it doesn't help to turn it off.)
    >
    > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
    > news:OjXH7UrXHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> If software doesn't recognize Vista and/or doesn't want to install under
    >> Vista, I would not force it to or try to install it. Either get updated
    >> software or do without.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
    >> * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
    >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
    >> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
    >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    >>
    >>
    >> "Ralph" <Ralph@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:BFC4258F-7A46-4EDA-9D5F-82A7A96BD4E6@microsoft.com...
    >>> Hey All. I recently purchased a Gateway with pre-installed Vista Home
    >>> Premium. My last computer suffered damage to the motherboard, so I
    >>> salvaged
    >>> the hard drive and video card and placed them in the new Gateway. They
    >>> seem
    >>> to work fine with no reported conflicts. I intended to reinstall my old
    >>> programs to the primary hard drive one by one, then gather saved data
    >>> like
    >>> pics and vids from the old hard drive followed by a wipe of the old hard
    >>> drive. However, several programs won't recognize Vista as a operating
    >>> system
    >>> and I can't install them. Some will run from their executables off the
    >>> old
    >>> hard drive.
    >>> Is there any danger to the system by running .exe's off the old hard
    >>> drive
    >>> since none of those are in the registry? Also, I think of Vista as
    >>> generally a useless memory devouring, piece of crap so can I make the
    >>> computer load and use XP off the old hard drive?
    >>> On another note, I continually recieve COM Surrogate, run32dll, and
    >>> windows
    >>> media player shutdown alerts while trying to capture video from my DV
    >>> camcorder.
    >>>
    >>> Any help is appreciated.

    >>
    >>

    >
    >



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  4. #4


    Adam Albright Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:47:39 -0600, "Mark" <jmhonzell@insightbb.com>
    wrote:

    >Now there's a solution... just do without.
    >Let's see...
    > Flash Player will not run if UAC is running.
    > But, who needs animation on the web?


    LOL! That's a great marketing angle for Microsoft. Hey try Vista, if
    the software you want to use and have been using in XP no longer works
    with Vista, just do without out.

    Just curious, so I switched UAC back on and visited one of my all
    Flash sites I authored and it works fine for me. No nag screen, all
    the Flash, which is extensive including embedded videos works
    correctly.

    What version of Flash Player are you using?



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  5. #5


    Adam Albright Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 02:24:05 -0000, "nicholas hall"
    <niknik1971NOSPAM@btinternet.com> wrote:

    >Flash player WILL run with UAC running (well it does on my computer).
    >
    >The trouble with people expect ALL their XP software to run fine on vista.
    >Some of the programs (or if not most) will needed to be updated to run fine
    >in vista.
    >Saying this though it does not mean that there is anything wrong with vista.
    >I am running vista and I have NO complaints about it. I have a fair amount
    >of software on my computer that works without ANY problems.


    While you may have a fair amount of software and even be an
    experienced user that doesn't mean you'll run into some of the
    problems others have with file permissions and ownership issues which
    has everything to do with the FILE SYSTEM and how now Vista blocks
    access and nothing to do with the software directly.

    If you as a user, more correctly some of your software while still
    running under XP took ownership of files and thus becomes the defacto
    owner or Vista assumes it did, then these folders and files can get
    assigned "special" owner permissions, that Vista may under certain
    situations refuse to let you take control of no matter what while UAC
    is turned on.

    This is a nightmare for people that have massive amounts of files that
    fall in this category like I have. I'm still undoing the mess Vista
    created.



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  6. #6


    Mark Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    Latest version: 9.0.28.0
    I'll revisit it in a day or two when I'm not so frustrated.
    (It's not that important to me. I was more concerned this was a generic
    problem.)

    Another post pointed out something I didn't consider which kind of explains
    the randomness of problems being reported:
    Vista assignment of "Special Permissions" to files preventing proper
    ownership while UAC is turned on.

    Looks like another direction to look into.




    "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
    news94nu2dmpj5re7ngld7q5nbkbbde5ck4s8@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:47:39 -0600, "Mark" <jmhonzell@insightbb.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Now there's a solution... just do without.
    >>Let's see...
    >> Flash Player will not run if UAC is running.
    >> But, who needs animation on the web?

    >
    > LOL! That's a great marketing angle for Microsoft. Hey try Vista, if
    > the software you want to use and have been using in XP no longer works
    > with Vista, just do without out.
    >
    > Just curious, so I switched UAC back on and visited one of my all
    > Flash sites I authored and it works fine for me. No nag screen, all
    > the Flash, which is extensive including embedded videos works
    > correctly.
    >
    > What version of Flash Player are you using?
    >
    >



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  7. #7


    Richard G. Harper Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    Flash player works fine for me. Uninstall any existing versions in
    Add/Remove Programs, then go to the Adobe web site and download and install
    it directly from their site.

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    "Mark" <jmhonzell@insightbb.com> wrote in message
    news:OiFvi$rXHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Now there's a solution... just do without.
    > Let's see...
    > Flash Player will not run if UAC is running.
    > But, who needs animation on the web?
    >
    > Of course, it's not a problem if you don't use IE 7 which came with
    > Vista and wasn't a problem in Win XP because IE 7 didn't come with
    > "Protected Mode." (But, it doesn't help to turn it off.)




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  8. #8


    Conor Guest

    Re: older programs and Vista

    In article <OiFvi$rXHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Mark says...
    > Now there's a solution... just do without.
    > Let's see...
    > Flash Player will not run if UAC is running.


    Wrong. You need the right version. Blame Adobe for not programming the
    version you're using properly. Why does a Flash player need system
    level access?



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    until you hear them speak.........

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