Vista - Windows Vista Ultimate Installation

In message <s78823lp7n1au520n67c7dr38d53bi9kao@4ax.com> DevilsPGD
<spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:

>In message <evJLt48fHHA.2640@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> "John Barnes"
><jbarnes@email.net> wrote:
>
>>Not esoteric server boards, though.
>
>Sure -- In that case, lets just name all the IDE controllers that need
>additional drivers that don't work with the built-in IDE drivers.
>
>*sigh*

Oh, and to answer your question, any Gigabyte IDE or SATA motherboard
which has RAID on board -- If RAID is enabled, then you need the RAID
drivers even if you don't use the RAID functionality.

Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are
not sufficient.

--
I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

How many posts back did I say RAID needed drivers. The whole string was
about standard IDE /ATA/ CD/DVD. Since the post was about CD/DVD, I
personally have never seen RAID CD/DVD setup, but I am sure you must have.
As of now, no SIS, nVidia or Via southbridges need other than the standard
Microsoft supplied IDE drivers. Other than RAID, maybe you are confused
that nVidia labels a driver set IDE when they are for SATA to operate in IDE
mode, not for the IDE controller.

"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <s78823lp7n1au520n67c7dr38d53bi9kao@4ax.com> DevilsPGD
> <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>>In message <evJLt48fHHA.2640@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> "John Barnes"
>><jbarnes@email.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Not esoteric server boards, though.
>>
>>Sure -- In that case, lets just name all the IDE controllers that need
>>additional drivers that don't work with the built-in IDE drivers.
>>
>>*sigh*
>
> Oh, and to answer your question, any Gigabyte IDE or SATA motherboard
> which has RAID on board -- If RAID is enabled, then you need the RAID
> drivers even if you don't use the RAID functionality.
>
> Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are
> not sufficient.
>
> --
> I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

In message <eOAXLZWgHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> "John Barnes"
<jbarnes@email.net> wrote:

>How many posts back did I say RAID needed drivers. The whole string was
>about standard IDE /ATA/ CD/DVD. Since the post was about CD/DVD, I
>personally have never seen RAID CD/DVD setup, but I am sure you must have.
>As of now, no SIS, nVidia or Via southbridges need other than the standard
>Microsoft supplied IDE drivers. Other than RAID, maybe you are confused
>that nVidia labels a driver set IDE when they are for SATA to operate in IDE
>mode, not for the IDE controller.

Semantics -- You can use many RAID controllers as IDE controllers, even
optical drives sometimes work.

The only different to the user may be the colour of the port on the
motherboard, and the drivers you'd need.

--
I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

Hi,

I have updated my BIOS to the latest version. I have also tried completely
unplugging my DVD ROM drive and installing from USB, to which I get the same
error message

"A required CD/DVD device driver is missing. If you have a driver floopy
disk, cd dvd, or usb please insert it now."

I have downloaded the latest Vista drivers from the website and the
installation program sees them. When I select it and click next the green bar
comes across several times and then I am presented with another message

" No new devices could be found. Make sure the driver files are correctt and
loacted on the new driver installation media."

I have even tried the old XP drivers with the "only show compatible drivers"
box unchecked and it does the same thing.

I am running a MSI P965 Neo board with an Intel Dual core Core Duo 2.4Ghz.
My hard drive is a Maxtor and is plugged into a SATA 2 port on the
Motherboard. I have tried moving it to a different SATA slot which made the
whole process a lot faster for some reason, there was no wait time at all
between selecting language and receving the error message. It also doesn't
show up anymore on the JMIcron RAID devices and is in BIOS, under devices
instead as a secondary master. But apart from the speed increase of
installation, this made no difference.

I only have one hard drive and one DVD rom drive and one usb drive (which I
have turned off and on to see if it affects it)

I am completely lost now and I don't know why windows can't recognise my
hardware....???

Please help
Thanks


"John Barnes" wrote:

> Does the MOBO have a later BIOS? When you say it waits, is anything showing
> as doing anything (if so, what), or is it a hang type wait? It is using the
> DVD player when it asks you so it has the driver. It asks for any drive hd
> drivers at the time you select the place to make the installation. Since we
> have no idea about your system, how about providing some information. What
> are you installing on? Others have had to temporarily unplug extra hard
> drives and cd drives. Do you have multiple CD/DVD drives? Both IDE and
> SATA hard drives?
>
>
> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4B68612A-6899-4D2E-B639-CE3AE8D8FFD1@microsoft.com...
> >I choose the language to install vista in and then it waits and then asks a
> > few mins later "cannot find cd/dvd driver etc...." I downloaded the vista
> > JMicron IDE Controller from the MSI website.
> >
> > It can see the driver and when I click next, it waits a few mins and then
> > says "unable to find new driver" It is exactly the same when I try the old
> > drivers as well for XP. Its happening at the very beginning of the
> > installation and I have the correct drivers, but it just won't accept
> > them.
> >
> > What would you recommend?
> >
> >
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were a
> >> little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it
> >> asked
> >> for the drivers, someone could help
> >>
> >> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:AE6DE9B4-7E83-490F-990A-6BD9CBD09468@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I recently purchased Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. When I come to do a
> >> > clean install, it asks me for a CD / DVD driver.
> >> >
> >> > After reading several topics in here, I discovered that it was looking
> >> > for
> >> > the IDE controller drivers. I downloaded the vista ones and put them on
> >> > cd.
> >> > It saw the drivers whilst the "dont show drivers that aren't
> >> > compatible"
> >> > box
> >> > was ticked. I selected the driver and clicked next and it came up with
> >> > the
> >> > same error message.
> >> >
> >> > I then read further on this site, and I was told to try using the old
> >> > drivers. I tried these and still got the same message.
> >> >
> >> > I have searched several sites and cannot find anything specific to this
> >> > problem
> >> >
> >> > Please help...
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >>
> >>
>
>

Since you have tried two BIOS's and even removed any CD/DVD devices from
your system, hopefully someone with your board will be able to help. You
might also post what your BIOS and versions are as that may help if someone
got a different version to work with your board. I copied the following
info from the MOBO site in case you haven't seen it and you need to make
adjustments. Highly unlikely this is related to this problem.

Due to the High Performance Memory design, motherboards or system
configurations may or may not operate smoothly at the JEDEC (Joint Electron
Device Engineering Council) standard settings (BIOS Default on the
motherboard) such as DDR2 voltage, memory speeds and memory timing. Please
confirm and adjust your memory setting in the BIOS accordingly for better
system stability.



"s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68F660E7-1BF0-4880-BA9E-81DC629E8026@microsoft.com...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have updated my BIOS to the latest version. I have also tried completely
> unplugging my DVD ROM drive and installing from USB, to which I get the
> same
> error message
>
> "A required CD/DVD device driver is missing. If you have a driver floopy
> disk, cd dvd, or usb please insert it now."
>
> I have downloaded the latest Vista drivers from the website and the
> installation program sees them. When I select it and click next the green
> bar
> comes across several times and then I am presented with another message
>
> " No new devices could be found. Make sure the driver files are correctt
> and
> loacted on the new driver installation media."
>
> I have even tried the old XP drivers with the "only show compatible
> drivers"
> box unchecked and it does the same thing.
>
> I am running a MSI P965 Neo board with an Intel Dual core Core Duo 2.4Ghz.
> My hard drive is a Maxtor and is plugged into a SATA 2 port on the
> Motherboard. I have tried moving it to a different SATA slot which made
> the
> whole process a lot faster for some reason, there was no wait time at all
> between selecting language and receving the error message. It also doesn't
> show up anymore on the JMIcron RAID devices and is in BIOS, under devices
> instead as a secondary master. But apart from the speed increase of
> installation, this made no difference.
>
> I only have one hard drive and one DVD rom drive and one usb drive (which
> I
> have turned off and on to see if it affects it)
>
> I am completely lost now and I don't know why windows can't recognise my
> hardware....???
>
> Please help
> Thanks
>
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> Does the MOBO have a later BIOS? When you say it waits, is anything
>> showing
>> as doing anything (if so, what), or is it a hang type wait? It is using
>> the
>> DVD player when it asks you so it has the driver. It asks for any drive
>> hd
>> drivers at the time you select the place to make the installation. Since
>> we
>> have no idea about your system, how about providing some information.
>> What
>> are you installing on? Others have had to temporarily unplug extra hard
>> drives and cd drives. Do you have multiple CD/DVD drives? Both IDE and
>> SATA hard drives?
>>
>>
>> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4B68612A-6899-4D2E-B639-CE3AE8D8FFD1@microsoft.com...
>> >I choose the language to install vista in and then it waits and then
>> >asks a
>> > few mins later "cannot find cd/dvd driver etc...." I downloaded the
>> > vista
>> > JMicron IDE Controller from the MSI website.
>> >
>> > It can see the driver and when I click next, it waits a few mins and
>> > then
>> > says "unable to find new driver" It is exactly the same when I try the
>> > old
>> > drivers as well for XP. Its happening at the very beginning of the
>> > installation and I have the correct drivers, but it just won't accept
>> > them.
>> >
>> > What would you recommend?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were
>> >> a
>> >> little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it
>> >> asked
>> >> for the drivers, someone could help
>> >>
>> >> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:AE6DE9B4-7E83-490F-990A-6BD9CBD09468@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I recently purchased Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. When I come to
>> >> > do a
>> >> > clean install, it asks me for a CD / DVD driver.
>> >> >
>> >> > After reading several topics in here, I discovered that it was
>> >> > looking
>> >> > for
>> >> > the IDE controller drivers. I downloaded the vista ones and put them
>> >> > on
>> >> > cd.
>> >> > It saw the drivers whilst the "dont show drivers that aren't
>> >> > compatible"
>> >> > box
>> >> > was ticked. I selected the driver and clicked next and it came up
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > same error message.
>> >> >
>> >> > I then read further on this site, and I was told to try using the
>> >> > old
>> >> > drivers. I tried these and still got the same message.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have searched several sites and cannot find anything specific to
>> >> > this
>> >> > problem
>> >> >
>> >> > Please help...
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

The version 1.6 BIOS seems to work best for many. Don't know what you have
tried but other versions have been panned. Also, Vista is being informed by
the BIOS incorrectly about something on the machine. I would suggest that
you turn off all IDE and SATA that you are not using and make sure you have
the right mode selected for the one you are using


"s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68F660E7-1BF0-4880-BA9E-81DC629E8026@microsoft.com...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have updated my BIOS to the latest version. I have also tried completely
> unplugging my DVD ROM drive and installing from USB, to which I get the
> same
> error message
>
> "A required CD/DVD device driver is missing. If you have a driver floopy
> disk, cd dvd, or usb please insert it now."
>
> I have downloaded the latest Vista drivers from the website and the
> installation program sees them. When I select it and click next the green
> bar
> comes across several times and then I am presented with another message
>
> " No new devices could be found. Make sure the driver files are correctt
> and
> loacted on the new driver installation media."
>
> I have even tried the old XP drivers with the "only show compatible
> drivers"
> box unchecked and it does the same thing.
>
> I am running a MSI P965 Neo board with an Intel Dual core Core Duo 2.4Ghz.
> My hard drive is a Maxtor and is plugged into a SATA 2 port on the
> Motherboard. I have tried moving it to a different SATA slot which made
> the
> whole process a lot faster for some reason, there was no wait time at all
> between selecting language and receving the error message. It also doesn't
> show up anymore on the JMIcron RAID devices and is in BIOS, under devices
> instead as a secondary master. But apart from the speed increase of
> installation, this made no difference.
>
> I only have one hard drive and one DVD rom drive and one usb drive (which
> I
> have turned off and on to see if it affects it)
>
> I am completely lost now and I don't know why windows can't recognise my
> hardware....???
>
> Please help
> Thanks
>
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> Does the MOBO have a later BIOS? When you say it waits, is anything
>> showing
>> as doing anything (if so, what), or is it a hang type wait? It is using
>> the
>> DVD player when it asks you so it has the driver. It asks for any drive
>> hd
>> drivers at the time you select the place to make the installation. Since
>> we
>> have no idea about your system, how about providing some information.
>> What
>> are you installing on? Others have had to temporarily unplug extra hard
>> drives and cd drives. Do you have multiple CD/DVD drives? Both IDE and
>> SATA hard drives?
>>
>>
>> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4B68612A-6899-4D2E-B639-CE3AE8D8FFD1@microsoft.com...
>> >I choose the language to install vista in and then it waits and then
>> >asks a
>> > few mins later "cannot find cd/dvd driver etc...." I downloaded the
>> > vista
>> > JMicron IDE Controller from the MSI website.
>> >
>> > It can see the driver and when I click next, it waits a few mins and
>> > then
>> > says "unable to find new driver" It is exactly the same when I try the
>> > old
>> > drivers as well for XP. Its happening at the very beginning of the
>> > installation and I have the correct drivers, but it just won't accept
>> > them.
>> >
>> > What would you recommend?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were
>> >> a
>> >> little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it
>> >> asked
>> >> for the drivers, someone could help
>> >>
>> >> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:AE6DE9B4-7E83-490F-990A-6BD9CBD09468@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I recently purchased Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. When I come to
>> >> > do a
>> >> > clean install, it asks me for a CD / DVD driver.
>> >> >
>> >> > After reading several topics in here, I discovered that it was
>> >> > looking
>> >> > for
>> >> > the IDE controller drivers. I downloaded the vista ones and put them
>> >> > on
>> >> > cd.
>> >> > It saw the drivers whilst the "dont show drivers that aren't
>> >> > compatible"
>> >> > box
>> >> > was ticked. I selected the driver and clicked next and it came up
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > same error message.
>> >> >
>> >> > I then read further on this site, and I was told to try using the
>> >> > old
>> >> > drivers. I tried these and still got the same message.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have searched several sites and cannot find anything specific to
>> >> > this
>> >> > problem
>> >> >
>> >> > Please help...
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated.

The BIOS version I am using at the moment is 1.8 (the newest) I have tried
1.6 with no luck. I have one HD and its SATA only so I have to use it. I
unplugged the IDE cable for the DVD and just used the USB Drive.

I got the same error messages, however when I went to select the JMicron
RAID/IDE drivers it would not see them, so I presumed it was looking to
install something else. It was, the Realtek Gigabit Ethernet NIC. So I
pointed it at these drivers, which produced the same error message as before.

I decided to turn this off in BIOS, and got the same error message on
installation. I looked for the Gigabit drivers and it wouldn't see them, so I
presumed that it had moved on to looking for another device to install, so
after checking all of the available driver updates available online from the
MSI website, which were only 5, I found that it wasn't looking for anything
that I could recognise.

I've tried turning down the voltages also, as you mentioned earlier in BIOS,
which produced no visible result.

I'm not sure what the problem is here. Whether it can't install anything at
all and even though the correct drivers are there, it refuses to install them
and gives out an error message, or there is something wrong with the whole
installation.

I'm a bit lost, any more ideas??

Thanks


"John Barnes" wrote:

> The version 1.6 BIOS seems to work best for many. Don't know what you have
> tried but other versions have been panned. Also, Vista is being informed by
> the BIOS incorrectly about something on the machine. I would suggest that
> you turn off all IDE and SATA that you are not using and make sure you have
> the right mode selected for the one you are using
>
>
> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:68F660E7-1BF0-4880-BA9E-81DC629E8026@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have updated my BIOS to the latest version. I have also tried completely
> > unplugging my DVD ROM drive and installing from USB, to which I get the
> > same
> > error message
> >
> > "A required CD/DVD device driver is missing. If you have a driver floopy
> > disk, cd dvd, or usb please insert it now."
> >
> > I have downloaded the latest Vista drivers from the website and the
> > installation program sees them. When I select it and click next the green
> > bar
> > comes across several times and then I am presented with another message
> >
> > " No new devices could be found. Make sure the driver files are correctt
> > and
> > loacted on the new driver installation media."
> >
> > I have even tried the old XP drivers with the "only show compatible
> > drivers"
> > box unchecked and it does the same thing.
> >
> > I am running a MSI P965 Neo board with an Intel Dual core Core Duo 2.4Ghz.
> > My hard drive is a Maxtor and is plugged into a SATA 2 port on the
> > Motherboard. I have tried moving it to a different SATA slot which made
> > the
> > whole process a lot faster for some reason, there was no wait time at all
> > between selecting language and receving the error message. It also doesn't
> > show up anymore on the JMIcron RAID devices and is in BIOS, under devices
> > instead as a secondary master. But apart from the speed increase of
> > installation, this made no difference.
> >
> > I only have one hard drive and one DVD rom drive and one usb drive (which
> > I
> > have turned off and on to see if it affects it)
> >
> > I am completely lost now and I don't know why windows can't recognise my
> > hardware....???
> >
> > Please help
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> Does the MOBO have a later BIOS? When you say it waits, is anything
> >> showing
> >> as doing anything (if so, what), or is it a hang type wait? It is using
> >> the
> >> DVD player when it asks you so it has the driver. It asks for any drive
> >> hd
> >> drivers at the time you select the place to make the installation. Since
> >> we
> >> have no idea about your system, how about providing some information.
> >> What
> >> are you installing on? Others have had to temporarily unplug extra hard
> >> drives and cd drives. Do you have multiple CD/DVD drives? Both IDE and
> >> SATA hard drives?
> >>
> >>
> >> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4B68612A-6899-4D2E-B639-CE3AE8D8FFD1@microsoft.com...
> >> >I choose the language to install vista in and then it waits and then
> >> >asks a
> >> > few mins later "cannot find cd/dvd driver etc...." I downloaded the
> >> > vista
> >> > JMicron IDE Controller from the MSI website.
> >> >
> >> > It can see the driver and when I click next, it waits a few mins and
> >> > then
> >> > says "unable to find new driver" It is exactly the same when I try the
> >> > old
> >> > drivers as well for XP. Its happening at the very beginning of the
> >> > installation and I have the correct drivers, but it just won't accept
> >> > them.
> >> >
> >> > What would you recommend?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were
> >> >> a
> >> >> little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it
> >> >> asked
> >> >> for the drivers, someone could help
> >> >>
> >> >> "s85hx" <s85hx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:AE6DE9B4-7E83-490F-990A-6BD9CBD09468@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I recently purchased Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. When I come to
> >> >> > do a
> >> >> > clean install, it asks me for a CD / DVD driver.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > After reading several topics in here, I discovered that it was
> >> >> > looking
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > the IDE controller drivers. I downloaded the vista ones and put them
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > cd.
> >> >> > It saw the drivers whilst the "dont show drivers that aren't
> >> >> > compatible"
> >> >> > box
> >> >> > was ticked. I selected the driver and clicked next and it came up
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > same error message.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I then read further on this site, and I was told to try using the
> >> >> > old
> >> >> > drivers. I tried these and still got the same message.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have searched several sites and cannot find anything specific to
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > problem
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please help...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

s85hx wrote:
> Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated.
>
> The BIOS version I am using at the moment is 1.8 (the newest) I have tried
> 1.6 with no luck. I have one HD and its SATA only so I have to use it. I
> unplugged the IDE cable for the DVD and just used the USB Drive...

Do I understand correctly that, so far, all the third-party drivers you
have fed to Vista have been on a CD/DVD of some kind? (Not quite sure
from reading what you've said.)

If so, I might try putting the drivers on a floppy or a USB stick
instead, because your problem seems to be with drivers for DVD devices,
and you are looking for the drivers on the device that Vista thinks
is not yet working properly. (Perhaps.)

I did at first. Then I have since tried loading the drivers from a USB stick
and from a hard drive.

I'm really lost with this one and I can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
The XP installation was sooooo much easier, no probs at all. I just don't
understand what the installation wants.

If anyone can help, its much appreciated

Thanks


"Don" wrote:

> s85hx wrote:
> > Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated.
> >
> > The BIOS version I am using at the moment is 1.8 (the newest) I have tried
> > 1.6 with no luck. I have one HD and its SATA only so I have to use it. I
> > unplugged the IDE cable for the DVD and just used the USB Drive...
>
> Do I understand correctly that, so far, all the third-party drivers you
> have fed to Vista have been on a CD/DVD of some kind? (Not quite sure
> from reading what you've said.)
>
> If so, I might try putting the drivers on a floppy or a USB stick
> instead, because your problem seems to be with drivers for DVD devices,
> and you are looking for the drivers on the device that Vista thinks
> is not yet working properly. (Perhaps.)
>
>

s85hx wrote:
> ... I have since tried loading the drivers from a USB stick
> and from a hard drive.
>
> I'm really lost with this one and I can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
> The XP installation was sooooo much easier, no probs at all. I just don't
> understand what the installation wants.

I went back over this long thread and ran across this info from a post
by DevilsPDG:

....any Gigabyte IDE or SATA motherboard
which has RAID on board -- If RAID is enabled, then you need the RAID
drivers even if you don't use the RAID functionality.
Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are
not sufficient.

It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte.