as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....

the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
install Vista dontcha think?

in the screen that should show your hard drives,
there is a button in the lower left to "add
driver" that replaces the f6 option and if you
need to provide a driver, that is the option you
use. vista even allows you to have the driver
on a usb stick, cd, dvd, etc.


stmckin wrote:
> as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
> with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
>
> the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
> the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
> install Vista dontcha think?

you don't make it there, SATA driver-less machines die at the @2006 screen

"Rick" wrote:

> in the screen that should show your hard drives,
> there is a button in the lower left to "add
> driver" that replaces the f6 option and if you
> need to provide a driver, that is the option you
> use. vista even allows you to have the driver
> on a usb stick, cd, dvd, etc.
>
>
> stmckin wrote:
> > as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
> > with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
> >
> > the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
> > the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
> > install Vista dontcha think?
>

My MSI K8T800Pro Neo2 did not die there!

In fact the Via RAID drive is in both the x86
and x64 Vista base and I did not need to provide
a driver.


stmckin wrote:
> you don't make it there, SATA driver-less machines die at the @2006 screen
>
> "Rick" wrote:
>
>> in the screen that should show your hard drives,
>> there is a button in the lower left to "add
>> driver" that replaces the f6 option and if you
>> need to provide a driver, that is the option you
>> use. vista even allows you to have the driver
>> on a usb stick, cd, dvd, etc.
>>
>>
>> stmckin wrote:
>>> as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
>>> with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
>>>
>>> the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
>>> the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
>>> install Vista dontcha think?

I understand, but there are a buncha posts from people that have OEM
machines, other brand MB's etc. where they don't get to the partition
selection screen, or get there with no drives shown, and we all need a
workaround, has anybody got one?

"Rick" wrote:

> My MSI K8T800Pro Neo2 did not die there!
>
> In fact the Via RAID drive is in both the x86
> and x64 Vista base and I did not need to provide
> a driver.
>
>
> stmckin wrote:
> > you don't make it there, SATA driver-less machines die at the @2006 screen
> >
> > "Rick" wrote:
> >
> >> in the screen that should show your hard drives,
> >> there is a button in the lower left to "add
> >> driver" that replaces the f6 option and if you
> >> need to provide a driver, that is the option you
> >> use. vista even allows you to have the driver
> >> on a usb stick, cd, dvd, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> stmckin wrote:
> >>> as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
> >>> with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
> >>>
> >>> the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
> >>> the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
> >>> install Vista dontcha think?
>

Do you have any idea what hardware you have?
Making a generic statement that a bunch of
boards don't get there and you need help doesn't
mean diddley squat!

If you have a problem with your car would you
just call a garage and say "my car doesn't work"
and expect the person on the other end of the
phone to know exactly what your car's problem is
by osmosis or ESP?

No different asking for computer assistance in a
news group. People reading the posts know
absolutely NOTHING about your system. Try to
provide as much information about the problem.

What do you think you need a "work around" for?
How do you know you don't have either a
hardware problem, or that your installation DVD
is causing the problem?

I have only installed Vista 4 times so far, but
I have not encountered any problems in those 4
installations.

The last time I did encounter a problem with an
installation was with win x64 and that proved to
be a corrupt .ISO I had downloaded. I
downloaded a second time and everything
installed as it should.


stmckin wrote:
> I understand, but there are a buncha posts from people that have OEM
> machines, other brand MB's etc. where they don't get to the partition
> selection screen, or get there with no drives shown, and we all need a
> workaround, has anybody got one?
>
> "Rick" wrote:
>
>> My MSI K8T800Pro Neo2 did not die there!
>>
>> In fact the Via RAID drive is in both the x86
>> and x64 Vista base and I did not need to provide
>> a driver.
>>
>>
>> stmckin wrote:
>>> you don't make it there, SATA driver-less machines die at the @2006 screen
>>>
>>> "Rick" wrote:
>>>
>>>> in the screen that should show your hard drives,
>>>> there is a button in the lower left to "add
>>>> driver" that replaces the f6 option and if you
>>>> need to provide a driver, that is the option you
>>>> use. vista even allows you to have the driver
>>>> on a usb stick, cd, dvd, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> stmckin wrote:
>>>>> as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
>>>>> with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
>>>>>
>>>>> the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
>>>>> the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
>>>>> install Vista dontcha think?

You are one of over 50 people who have asked this same question. You HAVE to
do a clean install within XP to install Vista. There is no fix for this issue
but there is a workaround. I don't have the link anymore but feel free to do
a search for it.
--
AMD-FX-60
2gb OCZ Plat. memory
ATI 1800 AIW
2x74gb Raptors in RAID-0
2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
Epox Nvidia-4 Ultra M/B
Senior Member Overclockers.com


"stmckin" wrote:

> as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
> with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
>
> the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
> the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
> install Vista dontcha think?

Chris,

Thanks... I wrote a post for clean install to a second partition from the XP
desktop for a non-Vista included SATA driver and adding the driver using that
process if that is what you mean....

just figured someone might have got the driver thing whipped at the first
screen stage or by adding them to the ISO since I know zip about Vista
install disk yet.


"Chris S" wrote:

> You are one of over 50 people who have asked this same question. You HAVE to
> do a clean install within XP to install Vista. There is no fix for this issue
> but there is a workaround. I don't have the link anymore but feel free to do
> a search for it.
> --
> AMD-FX-60
> 2gb OCZ Plat. memory
> ATI 1800 AIW
> 2x74gb Raptors in RAID-0
> 2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
> Epox Nvidia-4 Ultra M/B
> Senior Member Overclockers.com
>
>
> "stmckin" wrote:
>
> > as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
> > with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
> >
> > the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
> > the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
> > install Vista dontcha think?

We can only hope for that fix.
--
AMD-FX-60
2gb OCZ Plat. memory
ATI 1800 AIW
2x74gb Raptors in RAID-0
2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
Epox Nvidia-4 Ultra M/B
Senior Member Overclockers.com


"stmckin" wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Thanks... I wrote a post for clean install to a second partition from the XP
> desktop for a non-Vista included SATA driver and adding the driver using that
> process if that is what you mean....
>
> just figured someone might have got the driver thing whipped at the first
> screen stage or by adding them to the ISO since I know zip about Vista
> install disk yet.
>
>
> "Chris S" wrote:
>
> > You are one of over 50 people who have asked this same question. You HAVE to
> > do a clean install within XP to install Vista. There is no fix for this issue
> > but there is a workaround. I don't have the link anymore but feel free to do
> > a search for it.
> > --
> > AMD-FX-60
> > 2gb OCZ Plat. memory
> > ATI 1800 AIW
> > 2x74gb Raptors in RAID-0
> > 2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
> > Epox Nvidia-4 Ultra M/B
> > Senior Member Overclockers.com
> >
> >
> > "stmckin" wrote:
> >
> > > as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
> > > with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
> > >
> > > the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
> > > the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
> > > install Vista dontcha think?

Thanks Rick, nice post.

I'm just talking about adding drivers on fresh install, I've got working
iso's and boot dvd's and Vista x86 installations... but I don't have a
solution to load drivers ala F6 or add them to the ISO so I can get test
installations done on fresh machines, hence this post to find out if
someone's got something...


"Rick" wrote:

> Do you have any idea what hardware you have?
> Making a generic statement that a bunch of
> boards don't get there and you need help doesn't
> mean diddley squat!
>
> If you have a problem with your car would you
> just call a garage and say "my car doesn't work"
> and expect the person on the other end of the
> phone to know exactly what your car's problem is
> by osmosis or ESP?
>
> No different asking for computer assistance in a
> news group. People reading the posts know
> absolutely NOTHING about your system. Try to
> provide as much information about the problem.
>
> What do you think you need a "work around" for?
> How do you know you don't have either a
> hardware problem, or that your installation DVD
> is causing the problem?
>
> I have only installed Vista 4 times so far, but
> I have not encountered any problems in those 4
> installations.
>
> The last time I did encounter a problem with an
> installation was with win x64 and that proved to
> be a corrupt .ISO I had downloaded. I
> downloaded a second time and everything
> installed as it should.
>
>
> stmckin wrote:
> > I understand, but there are a buncha posts from people that have OEM
> > machines, other brand MB's etc. where they don't get to the partition
> > selection screen, or get there with no drives shown, and we all need a
> > workaround, has anybody got one?
> >
> > "Rick" wrote:
> >
> >> My MSI K8T800Pro Neo2 did not die there!
> >>
> >> In fact the Via RAID drive is in both the x86
> >> and x64 Vista base and I did not need to provide
> >> a driver.
> >>
> >>
> >> stmckin wrote:
> >>> you don't make it there, SATA driver-less machines die at the @2006 screen
> >>>
> >>> "Rick" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> in the screen that should show your hard drives,
> >>>> there is a button in the lower left to "add
> >>>> driver" that replaces the f6 option and if you
> >>>> need to provide a driver, that is the option you
> >>>> use. vista even allows you to have the driver
> >>>> on a usb stick, cd, dvd, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> stmckin wrote:
> >>>>> as clean system install on a number of harddrive controllers does not work
> >>>>> with hangs, no hard disk found, etc errors.....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the only workaround I can see is to run the install from XP desktop and add
> >>>>> the driver before first boot, pretty rediculous to install XP in order to
> >>>>> install Vista dontcha think?
>