Vista - iso file damage is microsoft responsibility are you agree?

i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
without need to redownload the iso file again



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Of course a more error tolerant download system would be good; but surely
you want to find what is causing these errors? Normally they are extremely
unlikely since there are multiple steps of error correction in different
layers.

If you got the download broken, it is almost certain that there is a problem
in either some of your components or modem/router (settings, firmware). Of
course it might still be good idea to look into your Modem Statistics to see
if the error count for the line is climbing. If there's just a few errors
and it's not changing while downloading at full speed, then you should not
worry about that. These errors are most likely corrected at another layer or
retried after the error.

If you get errors in almost every download you have tried of gigabytes in
size and have access to multiple computers, you could try attaching
different computer to the same modem and see if the errors persist. If they
do then your modem/router is probably broken somehow. If the problem isn't
at your end then there's only so much you can do.

With correctly working components at your end, there error rate normally is
something like single byte error in 1000-10000 Gigabytes in my experience.
Assuming you are not using a single broken server of course.

If you have no option of getting another computer to download with, then try
atleast running memtest86 for 10 hours to see if there are any memory
issues. If there's no problem then it's your pick of what to try next,
changing the modem/router, network card, cabling, drives, motherboard,
reinstall windows etc.

"mohamed yousef" <mohamedyousef@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> without need to redownload the iso file again
>
>
>
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> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
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> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

Your suggestion is totally asinine! It is not
Microsoft's fault your download is damaged!

Besides, how would they know which of the
approximately 4GB need to be fixed?

Le sens commun n'est pas si commun
(Common sense is not so common)

Voltaire


mohamed yousef wrote:
> i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> without need to redownload the iso file again
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

I agreed... but unfortunately, I am not sure something will be made for that.
This is a "beta" version and we can already report a problem without even
starting using it...

Droid, I have read your replies on several posts and on this one, I disagree
in a way that I had no problem dwnding DVD ISO from other systems...

If there was any problem, a suggestion will be to use some other ways to
downd the file, such torrent or else.

I already installed a previous version of Vista and I also encoutered
several problems for installing it.

I have enough new machines for being widely in the conditions requested for
handling Vista.

I will try again dwnding the file, but I strongly suggest Microsoft to think
of other way of dwnding the ISO file... even splitting into several smaller
files.

"mohamed yousef" wrote:

> i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> without need to redownload the iso file again
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

I agreed... but unfortunately, I am not sure something will be made for that.
This is a "beta" version and we can already report a problem without even
starting using it...

Droid, I have read your replies on several posts and on this one, I disagree
in a way that I had no problem dwnding DVD ISO from other systems...

If there was any problem, a suggestion will be to use some other ways to
downd the file, such torrent or else.

I already installed a previous version of Vista and I also encoutered
several problems for installing it.

I have enough new machines for being widely in the conditions requested for
handling Vista.

I will try again dwnding the file, but I strongly suggest Microsoft to think
of other way of dwnding the ISO file... even splitting into several smaller
files.

"mohamed yousef" wrote:

> i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> without need to redownload the iso file again
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

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"Arl" wrote:

> I agreed... but unfortunately, I am not sure something will be made for that.
> This is a "beta" version and we can already report a problem without even
> starting using it...
>
> Droid, I have read your replies on several posts and on this one, I disagree
> in a way that I had no problem dwnding DVD ISO from other systems...
>
> If there was any problem, a suggestion will be to use some other ways to
> downd the file, such torrent or else.
>
> I already installed a previous version of Vista and I also encoutered
> several problems for installing it.
>
> I have enough new machines for being widely in the conditions requested for
> handling Vista.
>
> I will try again dwnding the file, but I strongly suggest Microsoft to think
> of other way of dwnding the ISO file... even splitting into several smaller
> files.
>
> "mohamed yousef" wrote:
>
> > i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> > microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> > without need to redownload the iso file again
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

They already have a way to do it! Send $10 and get the CD! Duh!
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"Arl" wrote:

> I agreed... but unfortunately, I am not sure something will be made for that.
> This is a "beta" version and we can already report a problem without even
> starting using it...
>
> Droid, I have read your replies on several posts and on this one, I disagree
> in a way that I had no problem dwnding DVD ISO from other systems...
>
> If there was any problem, a suggestion will be to use some other ways to
> downd the file, such torrent or else.
>
> I already installed a previous version of Vista and I also encoutered
> several problems for installing it.
>
> I have enough new machines for being widely in the conditions requested for
> handling Vista.
>
> I will try again dwnding the file, but I strongly suggest Microsoft to think
> of other way of dwnding the ISO file... even splitting into several smaller
> files.
>
> "mohamed yousef" wrote:
>
> > i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> > microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> > without need to redownload the iso file again
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

This is from the Microsoft Vista Blog:

We've learned that some of you are experiencing problems successfully
burning Windows Vista to DVD. It turns out that this is most likely due to
the fact that, in your haste to install Windows Vista, some of you are
burning the DVD at faster rates than the system can handle and the
resulting file gets corrupted. There are few steps to try when you get a bad
DVD burn.

First, are you using media appropriate for your drive? It’s important that
if your DVD burner operates at 8x not to use 2x media. Improper media types
will increase the likelihood of bad burns. Second, if your drive speed is
adjustable with the software that came with your hardware, you should attempt
to slow down the burning speed. In addition, it’s best not to have too many
applications executing while burning is in progress. Third, drive
manufacturers are constantly improving the firmware for those devices. We
encourage you to visit your manufacturer’s website and download the latest
firmware. We know of a nice little utility called CRC.exe (look for it
online) that will check the integrity of any file on your local system, be it
on physical media (such as a DVD) or an ISO file. (However, the media or file
cannot be on a network drive or a mounted NTFS folder.)

To reiterate:

if your DVD burner operates at 8x do not use 2x media
if your DVD burner operates at 2x do not use 8x media
In general, writing a slower speed results in a greater likelihood of a
correct disc. This is due to many factors, such as the system's ability to
get the data to the device, the device's ability to keep the laser focused as
the disc spins extremely fast, and the quality of the media being recorded
to. If in doubt, use a slower recording speed!

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2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
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"mohamed yousef" wrote:

> i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> without need to redownload the iso file again
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...allation_setup

There must be an issue here because microsoft recomends that u use their
akaimi activex download manager 4 the beta. why?
"Chris S" <ChrisS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C7B5450D-BC37-4476-8D32-C7020319CD00@microsoft.com...
> This is from the Microsoft Vista Blog:
>
> We've learned that some of you are experiencing problems successfully
> burning Windows Vista to DVD. It turns out that this is most likely due
to
> the fact that, in your haste to install Windows Vista, some of you are
> burning the DVD at faster rates than the system can handle and the
> resulting file gets corrupted. There are few steps to try when you get a
bad
> DVD burn.
>
> First, are you using media appropriate for your drive? It's important
that
> if your DVD burner operates at 8x not to use 2x media. Improper media
types
> will increase the likelihood of bad burns. Second, if your drive speed is
> adjustable with the software that came with your hardware, you should
attempt
> to slow down the burning speed. In addition, it's best not to have too
many
> applications executing while burning is in progress. Third, drive
> manufacturers are constantly improving the firmware for those devices. We
> encourage you to visit your manufacturer's website and download the latest
> firmware. We know of a nice little utility called CRC.exe (look for it
> online) that will check the integrity of any file on your local system, be
it
> on physical media (such as a DVD) or an ISO file. (However, the media or
file
> cannot be on a network drive or a mounted NTFS folder.)
>
> To reiterate:
>
> if your DVD burner operates at 8x do not use 2x media
> if your DVD burner operates at 2x do not use 8x media
> In general, writing a slower speed results in a greater likelihood of a
> correct disc. This is due to many factors, such as the system's ability
to
> get the data to the device, the device's ability to keep the laser focused
as
> the disc spins extremely fast, and the quality of the media being recorded
> to. If in doubt, use a slower recording speed!
>
> --
> AMD-FX-60
> 2gb OCZ Plat. memory
> ATI 1800 AIW
> 2x74gb Raptors in RAID-0
> 2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
> Epox Nvidia-4 Ultra M/B
> Senior Member Overclockers.com
>
>
> "mohamed yousef" wrote:
>
> > i suggest if any one have 80070241 error
> > microsoft must provide a program to correct iso file
> > without need to redownload the iso file again
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> >
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...default.mspx?m
id=072f1cb7-b9a3-4118-8300-680c08aa350d&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.in
stallation_setup

Peter in other post suggested the download manager for Vista ISO introduces
errors when resuming.

I thought about that possibility but dismissed it because if that was the
case one would think there would be a whole lot of more talk about certain
errors since to my understanding the setup will verify the file integrity
thus causing a flood of posts about error X here. Also I gave the benefit of
doubt to the DL manager team that they wouldn't put up such fatal flaw in.
I've written programs that do http and ftp resuming and if you use the
higher level APIs it's almost impossible to get wrong :-) Of course it's
possible the DL manager did it all very low level and got the stuff wrong
but duh - Doubt it.