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| | Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? My uncles business has an old machine running XP Pro SP2 OEM that simply cannot handle old software anymore, so I'll be building him a new modern machine. The problem is the software he needs to run doesn't run on Vista, it's a known issue. We'd like to buy Vista Business OEM for the new machine for future use (when the software finally works on Vista), but use his XP Pro SP2 OEM disk and key on the new machine, and also on the old. I know this is in effect using the same key on two completely different machines, however two licences have been purchased so I'd think this should be OK with Microsoft. Does anyone know if this is legit legally and if is, from a Windows Update/Validation point of view? Thanks either way! Chuck |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? "chucky2" <chucky2@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1F3A1C16-6DBD-4184-BCC3-BFC6358C03AD@xxxxxx Quote: > My uncles business has an old machine running XP Pro SP2 OEM that simply > cannot handle old software anymore, so I'll be building him a new modern > machine. > > The problem is the software he needs to run doesn't run on Vista, it's a > known issue. > > We'd like to buy Vista Business OEM for the new machine for future use (when > the software finally works on Vista), but use his XP Pro SP2 OEM disk and key > on the new machine, and also on the old. > > I know this is in effect using the same key on two completely different > machines, however two licences have been purchased so I'd think this should > be OK with Microsoft. > > Does anyone know if this is legit legally and if is, from a Windows > Update/Validation point of view? No... not legal. Buy a second OEM copy of XP.... it's only $99. Build an XP system and there will be no driver or software issues. I'd wait until VISTA has been around for a while longer and is further de-bugged before committing. IMHO, you're better off running XP until VISTA is out of Beta, or as long as you don't care to have a user profile built on your machine's activities. |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? If you have a second license you have a second key, use it. The license for an OEM product is tied to the computer it came on or is first installed on. Since the activation algorithm will be different for each machine, activation will be required each time the computer checks it, which isn't as often with XP as Vista, but do really want that? Buy another OEM product key or use the key that came with your second license. "chucky2" <chucky2@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1F3A1C16-6DBD-4184-BCC3-BFC6358C03AD@xxxxxx Quote: > My uncles business has an old machine running XP Pro SP2 OEM that simply > cannot handle old software anymore, so I'll be building him a new modern > machine. > > The problem is the software he needs to run doesn't run on Vista, it's a > known issue. > > We'd like to buy Vista Business OEM for the new machine for future use > (when > the software finally works on Vista), but use his XP Pro SP2 OEM disk and > key > on the new machine, and also on the old. > > I know this is in effect using the same key on two completely different > machines, however two licences have been purchased so I'd think this > should > be OK with Microsoft. > > Does anyone know if this is legit legally and if is, from a Windows > Update/Validation point of view? > > Thanks either way! > > Chuck |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? "chucky2" <chucky2@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1F3A1C16-6DBD-4184-BCC3-BFC6358C03AD@xxxxxx Quote: > My uncles business has an old machine running XP Pro SP2 OEM that simply > cannot handle old software anymore, so I'll be building him a new modern > machine. > > The problem is the software he needs to run doesn't run on Vista, it's a > known issue. > > We'd like to buy Vista Business OEM for the new machine for future use > (when > the software finally works on Vista), but use his XP Pro SP2 OEM disk and > key > on the new machine, and also on the old. > > I know this is in effect using the same key on two completely different > machines, however two licences have been purchased so I'd think this > should > be OK with Microsoft. > > Does anyone know if this is legit legally and if is, from a Windows > Update/Validation point of view? > > Thanks either way! > Yes, that's possible and legal. Vista Business has downgrade rights to XP Pro. Even though you installed XP using a key from another computer the license is actually from the copy of Vista you have. You will have to phone in for activation of XP and explain that you are exercising your downgrade rights from Vista. http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OMZrL2V6HHA.3740@xxxxxx Quote: > If you have a second license you have a second key, use it. |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxx-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message news:B98DAC60-6B78-47BF-96BB-A6F8AF0C0A62@xxxxxx Quote: > "chucky2" <chucky2@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:1F3A1C16-6DBD-4184-BCC3-BFC6358C03AD@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: > > My uncles business has an old machine running XP Pro SP2 OEM that simply > > cannot handle old software anymore, so I'll be building him a new modern > > machine. > > > > The problem is the software he needs to run doesn't run on Vista, it's a > > known issue. > > > > We'd like to buy Vista Business OEM for the new machine for future use (when > > the software finally works on Vista), but use his XP Pro SP2 OEM disk and key > > on the new machine, and also on the old. > > > > I know this is in effect using the same key on two completely different > > machines, however two licences have been purchased so I'd think this > > should be OK with Microsoft. > > > > Does anyone know if this is legit legally and if is, from a Windows > > Update/Validation point of view? > > > > Thanks either way! Quote: > Yes, that's possible and legal. Vista Business has downgrade rights to XP > Pro. Even though you installed XP using a key from another computer the > license is actually from the copy of Vista you have. You will have to phone > in for activation of XP and explain that you are exercising your downgrade > rights from Vista. > > http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf So the actual VISTA key will NOT activate XP ? And if the key is used for such by phone, then VISTA can no longer be activated? |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? No. You didn't say what 2 licenses you had. Kerry says you can downgrade with your vista license, so follow his advice. "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OMZrL2V6HHA.3740@xxxxxx Quote: > If you have a second license you have a second key, use it. The license > for an OEM product is tied to the computer it came on or is first > installed on. Since the activation algorithm will be different for each > machine, activation will be required each time the computer checks it, > which isn't as often with XP as Vista, but do really want that? Buy > another OEM product key or use the key that came with your second license. > > "chucky2" <chucky2@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:1F3A1C16-6DBD-4184-BCC3-BFC6358C03AD@xxxxxx Quote: >> My uncles business has an old machine running XP Pro SP2 OEM that simply >> cannot handle old software anymore, so I'll be building him a new modern >> machine. >> >> The problem is the software he needs to run doesn't run on Vista, it's a >> known issue. >> >> We'd like to buy Vista Business OEM for the new machine for future use >> (when >> the software finally works on Vista), but use his XP Pro SP2 OEM disk and >> key >> on the new machine, and also on the old. >> >> I know this is in effect using the same key on two completely different >> machines, however two licences have been purchased so I'd think this >> should >> be OK with Microsoft. >> >> Does anyone know if this is legit legally and if is, from a Windows >> Update/Validation point of view? >> >> Thanks either way! >> >> Chuck |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? Hey Kerry, Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for! Chuck |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? "chucky2" <chucky2@xxxxxx> wrote in message news BF21C21-3552-440A-8064-ACCE3B9C18FD@xxxxxxQuote: > Hey Kerry, Thanks! > > That's exactly what I was looking for! > > Chuck One thing I forgot to mention. If your OEM version of XP came is BIOS locked you won't be able to install it. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca |
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| | Re: Downgrading Vista Business OEM to XP Pro OEM, Possible? "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@xxxxxx-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message news:13YAi.11$Yg.2@xxxxxx Quote: > > "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxx-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > news:B98DAC60-6B78-47BF-96BB-A6F8AF0C0A62@xxxxxx > Quote: >> "chucky2" <chucky2@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:1F3A1C16-6DBD-4184-BCC3-BFC6358C03AD@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> > My uncles business has an old machine running XP Pro SP2 OEM that >> > simply >> > cannot handle old software anymore, so I'll be building him a new >> > modern >> > machine. >> > >> > The problem is the software he needs to run doesn't run on Vista, it's >> > a >> > known issue. >> > >> > We'd like to buy Vista Business OEM for the new machine for future use >> > (when >> > the software finally works on Vista), but use his XP Pro SP2 OEM disk >> > and key >> > on the new machine, and also on the old. >> > >> > I know this is in effect using the same key on two completely different >> > machines, however two licences have been purchased so I'd think this >> > should be OK with Microsoft. >> > >> > Does anyone know if this is legit legally and if is, from a Windows >> > Update/Validation point of view? >> > >> > Thanks either way! > Quote: >> Yes, that's possible and legal. Vista Business has downgrade rights to XP >> Pro. Even though you installed XP using a key from another computer the >> license is actually from the copy of Vista you have. You will have to >> phone >> in for activation of XP and explain that you are exercising your >> downgrade >> rights from Vista. >> >> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf > > So the actual VISTA key will NOT activate XP ? > > And if the key is used for such by phone, then VISTA can no longer be > activated? > > The XP install won't finish unless you provide an XP key. Keys are specific to the version, i.e. an OEM XP Pro US English key will only work with that exact version of XP. The Vista key never gets used or entered anywhere. If at some later point you wish to install Vista on the same computer it will work. The key point is that as you are using OEM software you can run Vista or a downgrade to XP Pro on that computer with that license. Keys are not licenses and vice versa. You have a license to run Vista business on that computer. Part of that license says that you can downgrade to XP Pro on that computer. You can't install XP Pro and Vista at the same. It's one or the other and only on that computer. My advice is to take an image of all the partitions on the disk and store it away for future use. Format the drive and install XP Pro using the key from the other computer. Phone to activate it and explain what you've done. It should be activated. If they won't point them to the link I posted. When you want to return to Vista restore the image you created. Note that the downgrade rights are very specific. You can only downgrade from Vista Business or Ultimate to XP Pro, Tablet, or Pro x64. You can't downgrade to XP Home or media Center. Nor can you downgrade from Vista Home basic or Premium. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca |
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