I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's in
my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a
download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the
second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual boot
system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64 XP
and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old. The
installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting
Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is restored
and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install which I
haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition with
my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?



Intel D945PVS systemboard
Intel Pentium D Dual Core
ATI Radeon X1600 pro
2GB RAM
350 GB SATA drive

Thanks,

Jon

"Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0F2C7447-B894-4339-97F1-40E8AFA72D0C@microsoft.com...
>I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's
>in
> my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a
> download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the
> second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual
> boot
> system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64
> XP
> and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old.
> The
> installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting
> Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is
> restored
> and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install
> which I
> haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition
> with
> my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
>
> Intel D945PVS systemboard
> Intel Pentium D Dual Core
> ATI Radeon X1600 pro
> 2GB RAM
> 350 GB SATA drive
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon

From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully
install it. Back everything up!

Tom

Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.

"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eCY$in7mGHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F2C7447-B894-4339-97F1-40E8AFA72D0C@microsoft.com...
>>I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's
>>in
>> my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a
>> download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the
>> second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual
>> boot
>> system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64
>> XP
>> and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old.
>> The
>> installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting
>> Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is
>> restored
>> and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install
>> which I
>> haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition
>> with
>> my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Intel D945PVS systemboard
>> Intel Pentium D Dual Core
>> ATI Radeon X1600 pro
>> 2GB RAM
>> 350 GB SATA drive
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jon
>
> From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully
> install it. Back everything up!
>
> Tom
>

To Tom and Colin,

I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word
with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it was
not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was???
I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much
better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My
x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK.
I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that
only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so frustrated
because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista beta
driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's
own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests
rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the
manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least.
I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be
found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no
change. Now I am lost for an answer.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
>
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eCY$in7mGHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:0F2C7447-B894-4339-97F1-40E8AFA72D0C@microsoft.com...
> >>I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86 DVD's
> >>in
> >> my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not a
> >> download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the
> >> second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a dual
> >> boot
> >> system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade X64
> >> XP
> >> and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old.
> >> The
> >> installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting
> >> Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is
> >> restored
> >> and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install
> >> which I
> >> haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition
> >> with
> >> my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Intel D945PVS systemboard
> >> Intel Pentium D Dual Core
> >> ATI Radeon X1600 pro
> >> 2GB RAM
> >> 350 GB SATA drive
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jon
> >
> > From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to successfully
> > install it. Back everything up!
> >
> > Tom
> >
>
>
>

That's odd because ATI's Catalyst for Vista Beta 2 says it supports the
x1600 and is available for both x86 and x64 builds. Surprised to hear it
isn't working for you!

"Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:631B4F96-A237-4BF8-BB29-69543C02BFCD@microsoft.com...
To Tom and Colin,

I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word
with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it
was
not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was???
I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much
better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My
x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK.
I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that
only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so
frustrated
because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista
beta
driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's
own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests
rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the
manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least.
I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be
found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no
change. Now I am lost for an answer.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
>
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eCY$in7mGHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:0F2C7447-B894-4339-97F1-40E8AFA72D0C@microsoft.com...
> >>I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86
> >>DVD's
> >>in
> >> my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not
> >> a
> >> download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the
> >> second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a
> >> dual
> >> boot
> >> system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade
> >> X64
> >> XP
> >> and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old.
> >> The
> >> installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting
> >> Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is
> >> restored
> >> and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install
> >> which I
> >> haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition
> >> with
> >> my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Intel D945PVS systemboard
> >> Intel Pentium D Dual Core
> >> ATI Radeon X1600 pro
> >> 2GB RAM
> >> 350 GB SATA drive
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jon
> >
> > From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to
> > successfully
> > install it. Back everything up!
> >
> > Tom
> >
>
>
>

Hi,
I added a K to my name because there is another Jon in here and it was
getting me confused! I need to keep this clear, I am working with the x64
Ultimate 5384 build. My Radeon is a x1600 Pro PCI-express. I state that
because there are different flavors and this is what I am trying to make
work. I had a new idea in that each time I tried installing the ATI Vista
beta driver for X64 I was in safe mode. I booted into normal mode by removing
my Radeon and then rebooting and letting Vista do the PNP thing and install
it. This gets me into a working normal mode and I cancel the reboot
requested. I then (the new part) ran the ATI Vista beta for x64 at this point
and definitely observe a difference from the safe mode installation. This
takes a lot longer and Catalyst itself gets installed. I thought I had the
solution, NO. When I rebooted I still get the BSOD which complains about a
video timeout. Am I beating my head against a brick wall needlessly? Should I
bag the x64 and go to the X86 32 bit? Given how little support has been given
64 bit XP driver wise is there any reason to think Vista will be different?
Thanks for your support,

JonK

"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote:

> That's odd because ATI's Catalyst for Vista Beta 2 says it supports the
> x1600 and is available for both x86 and x64 builds. Surprised to hear it
> isn't working for you!
>
> "Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:631B4F96-A237-4BF8-BB29-69543C02BFCD@microsoft.com...
> To Tom and Colin,
>
> I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word
> with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it
> was
> not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was???
> I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much
> better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My
> x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK.
> I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that
> only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so
> frustrated
> because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista
> beta
> driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's
> own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests
> rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the
> manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least.
> I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be
> found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no
> change. Now I am lost for an answer.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
> > Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
> >
> > "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eCY$in7mGHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > "Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0F2C7447-B894-4339-97F1-40E8AFA72D0C@microsoft.com...
> > >>I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86
> > >>DVD's
> > >>in
> > >> my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not
> > >> a
> > >> download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the
> > >> second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a
> > >> dual
> > >> boot
> > >> system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade
> > >> X64
> > >> XP
> > >> and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old.
> > >> The
> > >> installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting
> > >> Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is
> > >> restored
> > >> and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install
> > >> which I
> > >> haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition
> > >> with
> > >> my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
> > >>
> > >> Intel D945PVS systemboard
> > >> Intel Pentium D Dual Core
> > >> ATI Radeon X1600 pro
> > >> 2GB RAM
> > >> 350 GB SATA drive
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jon
> > >
> > > From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to
> > > successfully
> > > install it. Back everything up!
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Update:

I decided to check out x86 and everything works great. I am able to add my
printers, one of which is connected to a Linksys wireless print server. My
scanner installed also with no problems. In each case I was able to use the
original install disc for each device. I also note that in X86 your drives
don't get messed with. I am on D: partition and it shows it as D: when I am
in Vista. On x64 Vista insisted on making it C: which got scary as my real
stuff is there. I wish I could get x64 working reliably, not needing to
alternate between normal and safe modes to get back to normal mode because of
a video driver problem.

JonK

"JonK" wrote:

> Hi,
> I added a K to my name because there is another Jon in here and it was
> getting me confused! I need to keep this clear, I am working with the x64
> Ultimate 5384 build. My Radeon is a x1600 Pro PCI-express. I state that
> because there are different flavors and this is what I am trying to make
> work. I had a new idea in that each time I tried installing the ATI Vista
> beta driver for X64 I was in safe mode. I booted into normal mode by removing
> my Radeon and then rebooting and letting Vista do the PNP thing and install
> it. This gets me into a working normal mode and I cancel the reboot
> requested. I then (the new part) ran the ATI Vista beta for x64 at this point
> and definitely observe a difference from the safe mode installation. This
> takes a lot longer and Catalyst itself gets installed. I thought I had the
> solution, NO. When I rebooted I still get the BSOD which complains about a
> video timeout. Am I beating my head against a brick wall needlessly? Should I
> bag the x64 and go to the X86 32 bit? Given how little support has been given
> 64 bit XP driver wise is there any reason to think Vista will be different?
> Thanks for your support,
>
> JonK
>
> "Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote:
>
> > That's odd because ATI's Catalyst for Vista Beta 2 says it supports the
> > x1600 and is available for both x86 and x64 builds. Surprised to hear it
> > isn't working for you!
> >
> > "Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:631B4F96-A237-4BF8-BB29-69543C02BFCD@microsoft.com...
> > To Tom and Colin,
> >
> > I am sorry but I lost this post. This newsgroup seems very hard to word
> > with. Most of the time it says "there was a problem with your post and it
> > was
> > not posted" or sormething. I then look and it was???
> > I did find that booting from the x64 installation DVD worked much
> > better than trying to install from a x64 or whatever insatllation of XP. My
> > x64 XP didn't have any critical data so I should be OK.
> > I now am battling the ATI Radeon X1600 driver issue. It appears that
> > only certain ATI Radeon Xxxxxx cards are so far supported. I am so
> > frustrated
> > because I can get to the normal desktop if I first install the ATI Vista
> > beta
> > driver then uninstall it and let Windows do the PNP thing and install it's
> > own driver. Once I do that I can work in normal mode even though it requests
> > rebooting which I cancel. What I see and have access to is great but the
> > manipulations I have to go through to get there are taxing to say the least.
> > I thought maybe the scanner or printer (both of which a driver cannot be
> > found) were the culprit. I disconnected the USB cables for both and no
> > change. Now I am lost for an answer.
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> > > Vista x64 can be installed from the XP Pro x64 desktop.
> > >
> > > "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eCY$in7mGHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > >
> > > > "Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:0F2C7447-B894-4339-97F1-40E8AFA72D0C@microsoft.com...
> > > >>I am attempting to install the X64 copy, I received both X64 and X86
> > > >>DVD's
> > > >>in
> > > >> my package of Beta 2. I am using Microsoft produced DVD's so it is not
> > > >> a
> > > >> download or corruption issue (I hope!). I am installing on Drive D: the
> > > >> second partition which currently has XP 64 bit installed. This is a
> > > >> dual
> > > >> boot
> > > >> system 32/64. The installation starts and informs me it can't upgrade
> > > >> X64
> > > >> XP
> > > >> and will do a clean install saving my old system in a file windows.old.
> > > >> The
> > > >> installation goes all the way through each segment and gets to Starting
> > > >> Windows for the first time and the BSOD. The original Win XP x64 is
> > > >> restored
> > > >> and Vista exits. Everyone seems to be booting from the DVD to install
> > > >> which I
> > > >> haven't tried, nervous about loosing my C: Windows XP 32 bit partition
> > > >> with
> > > >> my day to day data and programs. Any suggestions?
> > > >>
> > > >> Intel D945PVS systemboard
> > > >> Intel Pentium D Dual Core
> > > >> ATI Radeon X1600 pro
> > > >> 2GB RAM
> > > >> 350 GB SATA drive
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> Jon
> > > >
> > > > From what I have read, booting the X64 DVD is the only way to
> > > > successfully
> > > > install it. Back everything up!
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >