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| | activation failure, specific question re: activation work-around In april when I was struggling, an Elevated MS tech who suggested I reformat my hard drive described the "In Place" clean install using my purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade Dvd. I forgot. Just Read Paul Randall's description. But here's the thing: I'm half way through, didn't do Part II, the install/upgrade from Vista itself yet. So in the intervening 7 days of my temp. activation, I already installed a zillion programs on my new hard drive, on my original vista machine, spending much time and effort, having to call software people for new unlock codes etc. I should know this but don't : Will the new inplace upgrade that I do, if I go this route, wipe out the installations of these programs? Wil the programs themselves remain on the Vista drive (after I "upgrade" it), and if they remain, will they function without needing reinstallation?? The history behind this is in a previous post... Jim |
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| | Re: activation failure, specific question re: activation work-around On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:50:01 -0700, Jim103144 <Jim103144@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >In april when I was struggling, an Elevated MS tech who suggested I reformat >my hard drive described the "In Place" clean install using my purchased Vista >Ultimate Upgrade Dvd. I forgot. Just Read Paul Randall's description. But >here's the thing: I'm half way through, didn't do Part II, the >install/upgrade from Vista itself yet. So in the intervening 7 days of my >temp. activation, I already installed a zillion programs on my new hard >drive, on my original vista machine, spending much time and effort, having to >call software people for new unlock codes etc. > >I should know this but don't : Will the new inplace upgrade that I do, if I >go this route, wipe out the installations of these programs? Wil the programs >themselves remain on the Vista drive (after I "upgrade" it), and if they >remain, will they function without needing reinstallation?? The history >behind this is in a previous post... >Jim apps, but it may not. |
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| | Re: activation failure, specific question re: activation work-around Hi Jim, Usually, an inplace upgrade preserves existing installed programs. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Jim103144" <Jim103144@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B17B796D-D007-4C47-BF82-66BCEAC41077@xxxxxx Quote: > In april when I was struggling, an Elevated MS tech who suggested I > reformat > my hard drive described the "In Place" clean install using my purchased > Vista > Ultimate Upgrade Dvd. I forgot. Just Read Paul Randall's description. But > here's the thing: I'm half way through, didn't do Part II, the > install/upgrade from Vista itself yet. So in the intervening 7 days of my > temp. activation, I already installed a zillion programs on my new hard > drive, on my original vista machine, spending much time and effort, having > to > call software people for new unlock codes etc. > > I should know this but don't : Will the new inplace upgrade that I do, if > I > go this route, wipe out the installations of these programs? Wil the > programs > themselves remain on the Vista drive (after I "upgrade" it), and if they > remain, will they function without needing reinstallation?? The history > behind this is in a previous post... > Jim |
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| | Re: activation failure, specific question re: activation work-arou Dear Rick, and all: Quote: > *****Thanks...NOW FOR BELARC disclosure of Myster CD Key... threads one of you expert folk suggested to someone that they experiment with Belarc Advisor. Well, I did in the middle of the night, and it produces a ton of information about my computer... But my purpose was to confirm for myself my Vista CD Key. But the CD key it lists for my Vista is NOT the one on my Vista box-thing!!!! Because I'm in the "clean install" phase, does the computer somehow generate a CD key that is different? Also, it shows under software Licenses a separate heading for Microsoft VSTA , spelled without the I, listing a series of digits as a Key, but none of the alphabetic things that represent Keys as I'm familar with them. Does that refer to my original Vista install, which now is on (Lord help me!) Drive H.. or, maybe refer to the folder that either windows or seagate created and labelled Windows.Old and which contains 4 directories USERS, PROGRAM FILES, PROGRAMDATA, & WINDOWS. Or perhaps the directory (which contains most of the drive H: stuff) on my new C: Don't know now whether the Segate utility created that , or the Vista install did. But, why the mysterious unknown CD KEY listed by Belarc under Microsoft Vista.? I did have a kid help me with the installation back in March....and he did have his own vista....but, no.... It was my own disk that I used for the clean install to the new drive. It's all over my head. But, this, the Key thing, makes me nervous about the next step, in which I use my (store bought, at ? 259.00) Ultimate DVD to 'Upgrade" my clean install, that seems to have a mystery Key..... "Rick Rogers" wrote: Quote: > Hi Jim, > > Usually, an inplace upgrade preserves existing installed programs. > > -- > Best of Luck, > > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com > > "Jim103144" <Jim103144@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:B17B796D-D007-4C47-BF82-66BCEAC41077@xxxxxx Quote: > > In april when I was struggling, an Elevated MS tech who suggested I > > reformat > > my hard drive described the "In Place" clean install using my purchased > > Vista > > Ultimate Upgrade Dvd. I forgot. Just Read Paul Randall's description. But > > here's the thing: I'm half way through, didn't do Part II, the > > install/upgrade from Vista itself yet. So in the intervening 7 days of my > > temp. activation, I already installed a zillion programs on my new hard > > drive, on my original vista machine, spending much time and effort, having > > to > > call software people for new unlock codes etc. > > > > I should know this but don't : Will the new inplace upgrade that I do, if > > I > > go this route, wipe out the installations of these programs? Wil the > > programs > > themselves remain on the Vista drive (after I "upgrade" it), and if they > > remain, will they function without needing reinstallation?? The history > > behind this is in a previous post... > > Jim > Thanks...NOW FOR BELARC disclosure of Myster CD Key... threads one of you expert folk suggested to someone that they experiment with Belarc Advisor. Well, I did in the middle of the night, and it produces a ton of information about my computer... But my purpose was to confirm for myself my Vista CD Key. But the CD key it lists for my Vista is NOT the one on my Vista box-thing!!!! Because I'm in the "clean install" phase, does the computer somehow generate a CD key that is different? Also, it shows under software Licenses a separate heading for Microsoft VSTA , spelled without the I, listing a series of digits as a Key, but none of the alphabetic things that represent Keys as I'm familar with them. Does that refer to my original Vista install, which now is on (Lord help me!) Drive H.. or, maybe refer to the folder that either windows or seagate created and labelled Windows.Old and which contains 4 directories USERS, PROGRAM FILES, PROGRAMDATA, & WINDOWS. Or perhaps the directory (which contains most of the drive H: stuff) on my new C: Don't know now whether the Segate utility created that , or the Vista install did. But, why the mysterious unknown CD KEY listed by Belarc under Microsoft Vista.? I did have a kid help me with the installation back in March....and he did have his own vista....but, no.... It was my own disk that I used for the clean install to the new drive. It's all over my head. But, this, the Key thing, makes me nervous about the next step, in which I use my (store bought, at ? 259.00) Ultimate DVD to 'Upgrade" my clean install, that seems to have generated a mystery Key..... Yike!! Jim |
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| | Re: activation failure, specific question re: activation work-arou Once you complete the upgrade, your key will be replaced by the upgrade key. Should you ever need to reinstall, you will use your original key to install the original product. The disk doesn't matter. They all have all versions. It's the key that counts. "Jim103144" <Jim103144@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F5E434F0-5E6D-40B4-B244-E13B6DF67B6F@xxxxxx Quote: > > Dear Rick, and all: > Quote: >> *****Thanks...NOW FOR BELARC disclosure of Myster CD Key... > threads one of you expert folk suggested to someone that they experiment > with > Belarc Advisor. Well, I did in the middle of the night, and it produces a > ton > of information about my computer... But my purpose was to confirm for > myself > my Vista CD Key. But the CD key it lists for my Vista is NOT the one on > my > Vista box-thing!!!! Because I'm in the "clean install" phase, does the > computer somehow generate a CD key that is different? Also, it shows > under > software Licenses a separate heading for Microsoft VSTA , spelled without > the > I, listing a series of digits as a Key, but none of the alphabetic things > that represent Keys as I'm familar with them. Does that refer to my > original > Vista install, which now is on (Lord help me!) Drive H.. or, maybe refer > to > the folder that either windows or seagate created and labelled Windows.Old > and which contains 4 directories USERS, PROGRAM FILES, PROGRAMDATA, & > WINDOWS. Or perhaps the directory (which contains most of the drive H: > stuff) > on my new C: Don't know now whether the Segate utility created that , or > the > Vista install did. But, why the mysterious unknown CD KEY listed by > Belarc > under Microsoft Vista.? I did have a kid help me with the installation > back > in March....and he did have his own vista....but, no.... It was my own > disk > that I used for the clean install to the new drive. It's all over my > head. > But, this, the Key thing, makes me nervous about the next step, in which I > use my (store bought, at ? 259.00) Ultimate DVD to 'Upgrade" my clean > install, that seems to have a mystery Key..... > "Rick Rogers" wrote: > Quote: >> Hi Jim, >> >> Usually, an inplace upgrade preserves existing installed programs. >> >> -- >> Best of Luck, >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >> >> "Jim103144" <Jim103144@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:B17B796D-D007-4C47-BF82-66BCEAC41077@xxxxxx Quote: >> > In april when I was struggling, an Elevated MS tech who suggested I >> > reformat >> > my hard drive described the "In Place" clean install using my purchased >> > Vista >> > Ultimate Upgrade Dvd. I forgot. Just Read Paul Randall's description. >> > But >> > here's the thing: I'm half way through, didn't do Part II, the >> > install/upgrade from Vista itself yet. So in the intervening 7 days of >> > my >> > temp. activation, I already installed a zillion programs on my new hard >> > drive, on my original vista machine, spending much time and effort, >> > having >> > to >> > call software people for new unlock codes etc. >> > >> > I should know this but don't : Will the new inplace upgrade that I do, >> > if >> > I >> > go this route, wipe out the installations of these programs? Wil the >> > programs >> > themselves remain on the Vista drive (after I "upgrade" it), and if >> > they >> > remain, will they function without needing reinstallation?? The >> > history >> > behind this is in a previous post... >> > Jim >> Thanks...NOW FOR BELARC disclosure of Myster CD Key... > threads one of you expert folk suggested to someone that they experiment > with > Belarc Advisor. Well, I did in the middle of the night, and it produces a > ton > of information about my computer... But my purpose was to confirm for > myself > my Vista CD Key. But the CD key it lists for my Vista is NOT the one on > my > Vista box-thing!!!! Because I'm in the "clean install" phase, does the > computer somehow generate a CD key that is different? Also, it shows > under > software Licenses a separate heading for Microsoft VSTA , spelled without > the > I, listing a series of digits as a Key, but none of the alphabetic things > that represent Keys as I'm familar with them. Does that refer to my > original > Vista install, which now is on (Lord help me!) Drive H.. or, maybe refer > to > the folder that either windows or seagate created and labelled Windows.Old > and which contains 4 directories USERS, PROGRAM FILES, PROGRAMDATA, & > WINDOWS. Or perhaps the directory (which contains most of the drive H: > stuff) > on my new C: Don't know now whether the Segate utility created that , or > the > Vista install did. But, why the mysterious unknown CD KEY listed by > Belarc > under Microsoft Vista.? I did have a kid help me with the installation > back > in March....and he did have his own vista....but, no.... It was my own > disk > that I used for the clean install to the new drive. It's all over my > head. > But, this, the Key thing, makes me nervous about the next step, in which I > use my (store bought, at ? 259.00) Ultimate DVD to 'Upgrade" my clean > install, that seems to have generated a mystery Key..... > > Yike!! > > Jim > |
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| | Re: activation failure, specific question re: activation work-around "Jim103144" <Jim103144@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B17B796D-D007-4C47-BF82-66BCEAC41077@xxxxxx Quote: > In april when I was struggling, an Elevated MS tech who suggested I > reformat > my hard drive described the "In Place" clean install using my purchased > Vista > Ultimate Upgrade Dvd. I forgot. Just Read Paul Randall's description. But > here's the thing: I'm half way through, didn't do Part II, the > install/upgrade from Vista itself yet. So in the intervening 7 days of my > temp. activation, I already installed a zillion programs on my new hard > drive, on my original vista machine, spending much time and effort, having > to > call software people for new unlock codes etc. > > I should know this but don't : Will the new inplace upgrade that I do, if > I > go this route, wipe out the installations of these programs? Wil the > programs > themselves remain on the Vista drive (after I "upgrade" it), and if they > remain, will they function without needing reinstallation?? The history > behind this is in a previous post... > Jim It all depends. In a perfect world, the inplace upgrade would work just as you want it to. There are many things that might screw it up. A Vista compatible driver might not really be fully compatible. One or more of the zillion programs you have installed may not really be fully compatible. Because of these uncertainties, I would suggest that you organize and back up on CD/DVD the zillion program install packages and other info (like phone numbers for software people for new unlock codes etc, and notes on which packages need to be installed in compatibility mode) to make it easier to recover if things go bad. Be sure to report on how smoothly the upgrade goes. -Paul Randall |
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