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| | Install fails full retail Vista 64bit ver on new Dell Precision M6 The new system was delivered with Vista 32 bit Buisness about a week ago. I attempted to install Vista Ultimate x64 on the 64 bit system and would get a blue screen at the final installation point where Widows is starting up for the first time. At that point the installation would keep cycling from a reboot screen to a flash of a bluee screen. I terminated the installation, attempte a 32 bit Ultimate installation and that failed. I then used the Dell Vista 32bit Buisness disk and reinstalled the operating system. I called Dell and they told me it is probably a graphics driver problem, such that the microsoft software does not know how to install a driver that will work with the unrecognizeable new graphics card (quadro FX 1600M). The Nvidia quadro FX 1600M Vista x64 driver is not available from Dell or Nvidia yet, but the quadro FX 360M should work temporarily. They told me they don't support non standard installation procedures. I don't know how to get the critical 64 bit drivers installed during the Vista X64 installation so the installation won't fail. Can anyone direct me to a procedure for this? Ideally, I'd like an updated Vista Ultimate disk from microsoft that will work with this computer. |
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| | Re: Install fails full retail Vista 64bit ver on new Dell Precision M6 Hi, The retail OS disk isn't updated just because there is new hardware out there. In fact, the OS disk will likely not be updated until the first Service Pack is released, and that may or may not contain an updated driver cache. As to why it fails, it could be the new video card, but it could also be any of the proprietary components Dell uses in building their systems. Quite often, drivers need to support these components are not found in a retail disk, but only in the system specific OS build supplied by the manufacturer. In short, until Dell decides to build and release a 64-bit proprietary version of Vista for this system hardware, there is likely little that can be done. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "tyea" <tyea@xxxxxx> wrote in message news 4B96BDD-C2C1-4CDF-9A1E-DE5863A8126D@xxxxxxQuote: > The new system was delivered with Vista 32 bit Buisness about a week ago. > I > attempted to install Vista Ultimate x64 on the 64 bit system and would get > a > blue screen at the final installation point where Widows is starting up > for > the first time. At that point the installation would keep cycling from a > reboot screen to a flash of a bluee screen. I terminated the installation, > attempte a 32 bit Ultimate installation and that failed. I then used the > Dell > Vista 32bit Buisness disk and reinstalled the operating system. > > I called Dell and they told me it is probably a graphics driver problem, > such that the microsoft software does not know how to install a driver > that > will work with the unrecognizeable new graphics card (quadro FX 1600M). > The > Nvidia quadro FX 1600M Vista x64 driver is not available from Dell or > Nvidia > yet, but the quadro FX 360M should work temporarily. They told me they > don't > support non standard installation procedures. > > I don't know how to get the critical 64 bit drivers installed during the > Vista X64 installation so the installation won't fail. Can anyone direct > me > to a procedure for this? Ideally, I'd like an updated Vista Ultimate disk > from microsoft that will work with this computer. |
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| | RE: Install fails full retail Vista 64bit ver on new Dell Precision M6 Putting it simply, it is up to Nvidia to write a 64-bit Vista compatible driver; not Microsoft. "tyea" wrote: Quote: > The new system was delivered with Vista 32 bit Buisness about a week ago. I > attempted to install Vista Ultimate x64 on the 64 bit system and would get a > blue screen at the final installation point where Widows is starting up for > the first time. At that point the installation would keep cycling from a > reboot screen to a flash of a bluee screen. I terminated the installation, > attempte a 32 bit Ultimate installation and that failed. I then used the Dell > Vista 32bit Buisness disk and reinstalled the operating system. > > I called Dell and they told me it is probably a graphics driver problem, > such that the microsoft software does not know how to install a driver that > will work with the unrecognizeable new graphics card (quadro FX 1600M). The > Nvidia quadro FX 1600M Vista x64 driver is not available from Dell or Nvidia > yet, but the quadro FX 360M should work temporarily. They told me they don't > support non standard installation procedures. > > I don't know how to get the critical 64 bit drivers installed during the > Vista X64 installation so the installation won't fail. Can anyone direct me > to a procedure for this? Ideally, I'd like an updated Vista Ultimate disk > from microsoft that will work with this computer. |
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| | Re: Install fails full retail Vista 64bit ver on new Dell Precisio That sounds like a very bad buisness model. There must be a way to load dell system software during a retail Vista installation, otherwise both Microsoft and Dell would lose sales. If there is not a way to do this with my retail disk, or Dell won't appease me with a copy of their 'proprietary' OS disk, I'm returning the computer. "Rick Rogers" wrote: Quote: > Hi, > > The retail OS disk isn't updated just because there is new hardware out > there. In fact, the OS disk will likely not be updated until the first > Service Pack is released, and that may or may not contain an updated driver > cache. > > As to why it fails, it could be the new video card, but it could also be any > of the proprietary components Dell uses in building their systems. Quite > often, drivers need to support these components are not found in a retail > disk, but only in the system specific OS build supplied by the manufacturer. > In short, until Dell decides to build and release a 64-bit proprietary > version of Vista for this system hardware, there is likely little that can > be done. > > -- > Best of Luck, > > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com > > "tyea" <tyea@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news 4B96BDD-C2C1-4CDF-9A1E-DE5863A8126D@xxxxxxQuote: > > The new system was delivered with Vista 32 bit Buisness about a week ago. > > I > > attempted to install Vista Ultimate x64 on the 64 bit system and would get > > a > > blue screen at the final installation point where Widows is starting up > > for > > the first time. At that point the installation would keep cycling from a > > reboot screen to a flash of a bluee screen. I terminated the installation, > > attempte a 32 bit Ultimate installation and that failed. I then used the > > Dell > > Vista 32bit Buisness disk and reinstalled the operating system. > > > > I called Dell and they told me it is probably a graphics driver problem, > > such that the microsoft software does not know how to install a driver > > that > > will work with the unrecognizeable new graphics card (quadro FX 1600M). > > The > > Nvidia quadro FX 1600M Vista x64 driver is not available from Dell or > > Nvidia > > yet, but the quadro FX 360M should work temporarily. They told me they > > don't > > support non standard installation procedures. > > > > I don't know how to get the critical 64 bit drivers installed during the > > Vista X64 installation so the installation won't fail. Can anyone direct > > me > > to a procedure for this? Ideally, I'd like an updated Vista Ultimate disk > > from microsoft that will work with this computer. > |
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| | Re: Install fails full retail Vista 64bit ver on new Dell Precisio Most computer buyers are better off with 32-bit and the manufacturers of machines that do not have the need for 64-bit computing only do drivers for 32-bit. The demand for 64-bit for home computers is too small to accommodate them. This is particularly a problem with laptops which have mostly proprietary internals. If you don't have more than 4gig of ram or specifically run 64-bit programs, and you have older software you want to run, you should just stick with 32-bit. "tyea" <tyea@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A9FE3DED-B70F-4459-AF14-A14175B4E0ED@xxxxxx Quote: > That sounds like a very bad buisness model. There must be a way to load > dell > system software during a retail Vista installation, otherwise both > Microsoft > and Dell would lose sales. If there is not a way to do this with my retail > disk, or Dell won't appease me with a copy of their 'proprietary' OS disk, > I'm returning the computer. > > "Rick Rogers" wrote: > Quote: >> Hi, >> >> The retail OS disk isn't updated just because there is new hardware out >> there. In fact, the OS disk will likely not be updated until the first >> Service Pack is released, and that may or may not contain an updated >> driver >> cache. >> >> As to why it fails, it could be the new video card, but it could also be >> any >> of the proprietary components Dell uses in building their systems. Quite >> often, drivers need to support these components are not found in a retail >> disk, but only in the system specific OS build supplied by the >> manufacturer. >> In short, until Dell decides to build and release a 64-bit proprietary >> version of Vista for this system hardware, there is likely little that >> can >> be done. >> >> -- >> Best of Luck, >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >> >> "tyea" <tyea@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news 4B96BDD-C2C1-4CDF-9A1E-DE5863A8126D@xxxxxxQuote: >> > The new system was delivered with Vista 32 bit Buisness about a week >> > ago. >> > I >> > attempted to install Vista Ultimate x64 on the 64 bit system and would >> > get >> > a >> > blue screen at the final installation point where Widows is starting up >> > for >> > the first time. At that point the installation would keep cycling from >> > a >> > reboot screen to a flash of a bluee screen. I terminated the >> > installation, >> > attempte a 32 bit Ultimate installation and that failed. I then used >> > the >> > Dell >> > Vista 32bit Buisness disk and reinstalled the operating system. >> > >> > I called Dell and they told me it is probably a graphics driver >> > problem, >> > such that the microsoft software does not know how to install a driver >> > that >> > will work with the unrecognizeable new graphics card (quadro FX 1600M). >> > The >> > Nvidia quadro FX 1600M Vista x64 driver is not available from Dell or >> > Nvidia >> > yet, but the quadro FX 360M should work temporarily. They told me they >> > don't >> > support non standard installation procedures. >> > >> > I don't know how to get the critical 64 bit drivers installed during >> > the >> > Vista X64 installation so the installation won't fail. Can anyone >> > direct >> > me >> > to a procedure for this? Ideally, I'd like an updated Vista Ultimate >> > disk >> > from microsoft that will work with this computer. >> |
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| | Re: Install fails full retail Vista 64bit ver on new Dell Precisio You can use F8 for the last boot and select safe mode or low resolution mode to see if the problem is video driver related. "tyea" <tyea@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A9FE3DED-B70F-4459-AF14-A14175B4E0ED@xxxxxx Quote: > That sounds like a very bad buisness model. There must be a way to load > dell > system software during a retail Vista installation, otherwise both > Microsoft > and Dell would lose sales. If there is not a way to do this with my retail > disk, or Dell won't appease me with a copy of their 'proprietary' OS disk, > I'm returning the computer. > > "Rick Rogers" wrote: > Quote: >> Hi, >> >> The retail OS disk isn't updated just because there is new hardware out >> there. In fact, the OS disk will likely not be updated until the first >> Service Pack is released, and that may or may not contain an updated >> driver >> cache. >> >> As to why it fails, it could be the new video card, but it could also be >> any >> of the proprietary components Dell uses in building their systems. Quite >> often, drivers need to support these components are not found in a retail >> disk, but only in the system specific OS build supplied by the >> manufacturer. >> In short, until Dell decides to build and release a 64-bit proprietary >> version of Vista for this system hardware, there is likely little that >> can >> be done. >> >> -- >> Best of Luck, >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >> >> "tyea" <tyea@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news 4B96BDD-C2C1-4CDF-9A1E-DE5863A8126D@xxxxxxQuote: >> > The new system was delivered with Vista 32 bit Buisness about a week >> > ago. >> > I >> > attempted to install Vista Ultimate x64 on the 64 bit system and would >> > get >> > a >> > blue screen at the final installation point where Widows is starting up >> > for >> > the first time. At that point the installation would keep cycling from >> > a >> > reboot screen to a flash of a bluee screen. I terminated the >> > installation, >> > attempte a 32 bit Ultimate installation and that failed. I then used >> > the >> > Dell >> > Vista 32bit Buisness disk and reinstalled the operating system. >> > >> > I called Dell and they told me it is probably a graphics driver >> > problem, >> > such that the microsoft software does not know how to install a driver >> > that >> > will work with the unrecognizeable new graphics card (quadro FX 1600M). >> > The >> > Nvidia quadro FX 1600M Vista x64 driver is not available from Dell or >> > Nvidia >> > yet, but the quadro FX 360M should work temporarily. They told me they >> > don't >> > support non standard installation procedures. >> > >> > I don't know how to get the critical 64 bit drivers installed during >> > the >> > Vista X64 installation so the installation won't fail. Can anyone >> > direct >> > me >> > to a procedure for this? Ideally, I'd like an updated Vista Ultimate >> > disk >> > from microsoft that will work with this computer. >> |
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| | RE: Install fails full retail Vista 64bit ver on new Dell Precision M6 I too recieved my M6300 expecting to install Vista Ultimate x64 and keep my old configuration of Windows XP Pro. I first started with XP and couldn't find 3 drivers and used Dell's chat system. Dell's support showed me that the audio driver was named differently in the installation and the other two (bluetooth and embassy control chip) were available if you looked under another product with the same features. I just recieved my Ultimate Vista DVD today and started tackling the problems. I first download all available drivers from Dell for Vista 64-bit platform. Note that the Audio is both 32/64 bit installer. I then downloaded the Intel Wireless ProSet from Intel. They have a 64-bit version available for download. By default Vista used the default generic driver, ugh no DirectX support, but it did work. I then googled for NVidia 1600M Vista 64-bit driver and found a generic driver on NVidia's site for Quadro FX 1500. From what i know the drivers are compatible, so i added the 1600M to the nv_disp.inf file in the installer and it worked! Interesting enough it appears that 1MB Turbo Memory is used by the Video as well? Is this true? The driver says i have 256MB dedicated with an additional 766MB Shared System Memory. Or is this a driver error reading the part of that extra dynamic 256MB? In either case, my simple test of using the DirectX Screen Savers worked. Final note...I tried to install the Broadcom Gigabit but it wouldn't install. I used the Broadcom 570x one in the Vista driver database, it complained about maybe not being compatible but installed. I haven't tried the ethernet port yet, but it boot ok. I think Dell released this system so quickly without spending anytime gathering and posting the correct drivers. This is not only for Vista 64-bit, but for XP Pro and i'm guessing for every other platform. They'll probably show up in the next few months when enough people complain that they purchased a 64-bit machine with 4GB of memory for no reason... "tyea" wrote: Quote: > The new system was delivered with Vista 32 bit Buisness about a week ago. I > attempted to install Vista Ultimate x64 on the 64 bit system and would get a > blue screen at the final installation point where Widows is starting up for > the first time. At that point the installation would keep cycling from a > reboot screen to a flash of a bluee screen. I terminated the installation, > attempte a 32 bit Ultimate installation and that failed. I then used the Dell > Vista 32bit Buisness disk and reinstalled the operating system. > > I called Dell and they told me it is probably a graphics driver problem, > such that the microsoft software does not know how to install a driver that > will work with the unrecognizeable new graphics card (quadro FX 1600M). The > Nvidia quadro FX 1600M Vista x64 driver is not available from Dell or Nvidia > yet, but the quadro FX 360M should work temporarily. They told me they don't > support non standard installation procedures. > > I don't know how to get the critical 64 bit drivers installed during the > Vista X64 installation so the installation won't fail. Can anyone direct me > to a procedure for this? Ideally, I'd like an updated Vista Ultimate disk > from microsoft that will work with this computer. |
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