Vista - Can I run Outlook Exp on my Vista

02-09-2008

Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't have
to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to resurrect
that saying.

Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties - we
buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so
software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the
functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software to
work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part.

So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is whether I
continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook
Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over to
the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one,
rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various discussion
sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to render
WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the
folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we are
into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump the
2nd party software.)

I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read on
my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004.
--
Phil

02-09-2008

"Phiwin" <Phiwin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:AC7383E3-4F22-4B49-BCAB-8B6174344B3A@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't
> have
> to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to
> resurrect
> that saying.
>
> Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties -
> we
> buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so
> software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the
> functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software
> to
> work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part.
>
> So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is whether
> I
> continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook
> Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over
> to
> the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one,
> rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various
> discussion
> sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to
> render
> WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the
> folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we
> are
> into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump the
> 2nd party software.)
>
> I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read
> on
> my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004.
> --
> Phil

Windows Mail is the replacement for Outlook Express. You can't run OE on a
Vista system. You can try using Windows Live Mail. I have four security
applications running on my Vista Premium system and have no issues with
Windows Mail. You need to take a look at the settings for your security
software. Disable any email scanning that may be taking place.

02-09-2008

I don't understand your argument about 2nd party versus 3rd party.
Having worked with computers for some 42 years, I know that the
OS is supreme, and apps that want to run on that OS had better
play by the OS's rules!

If Microsoft never improved their OS (Windows), all the old apps
would continue to run, but at what cost to security? The bad guys
(hackers) are getting smarter all the time, and the OS had better
evolve in order to counter this onslaught.

No, OE won't install or run on Vista.
Windows Live Mail (touted by MS as a replacement for Windows Mail)
seems more resistant to corruption from antivirus programs,
so you may want to give WLM a try:
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)

"Phiwin" <Phiwin@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AC7383E3-4F22-4B49-BCAB-8B6174344B3A@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't have
> to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to resurrect
> that saying.
>
> Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties - we
> buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so
> software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the
> functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software to
> work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part.
>
> So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is whether I
> continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook
> Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over to
> the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one,
> rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various discussion
> sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to render
> WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the
> folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we are
> into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump the
> 2nd party software.)
>
> I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read on
> my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004.
> --
> Phil

02-09-2008

can Windows Live Mail be a news reader ? cheers : )

--
www.james-ho.com
news://news.balabu.net/balaboy.james
¦³¨Æ§ä§Ú.
"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ewZCf42aIHA.4144@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I don't understand your argument about 2nd party versus 3rd party.
> Having worked with computers for some 42 years, I know that the
> OS is supreme, and apps that want to run on that OS had better
> play by the OS's rules!
>
> If Microsoft never improved their OS (Windows), all the old apps
> would continue to run, but at what cost to security? The bad guys
> (hackers) are getting smarter all the time, and the OS had better
> evolve in order to counter this onslaught.
>
> No, OE won't install or run on Vista.
> Windows Live Mail (touted by MS as a replacement for Windows Mail)
> seems more resistant to corruption from antivirus programs,
> so you may want to give WLM a try:
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Phiwin" <Phiwin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:AC7383E3-4F22-4B49-BCAB-8B6174344B3A@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't
>> have
>> to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to
>> resurrect
>> that saying.
>>
>> Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties -
>> we
>> buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so
>> software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the
>> functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software
>> to
>> work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part.
>>
>> So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is
>> whether I
>> continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook
>> Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over
>> to
>> the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one,
>> rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various
>> discussion
>> sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to
>> render
>> WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the
>> folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we
>> are
>> into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump
>> the
>> 2nd party software.)
>>
>> I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read
>> on
>> my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004.
>> --
>> Phil

>
>

02-09-2008

"¡°James~¤pª¯¡°" <james@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eZubWD4aIHA.1188@xxxxxx

Quote:

> can Windows Live Mail be a news reader ? cheers : )
>
> --

Can be? It is.

Please do not post to newsgroups in rich text.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP : Mail.
[DTS] UK.

02-09-2008

Actually, he didn't post in Rich Text, but I have noticed that anytime
a post uses charset="big5", WM displays it with a strange font, which is
retained when replying to it.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)

" mac" <macknever@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0C7D1710-14C3-4686-B655-F85C5F17C477@xxxxxx

Quote:

>
> "¡°James~¤pª¯¡°" <james@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eZubWD4aIHA.1188@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> can Windows Live Mail be a news reader ? cheers : )
>>
>> --

>
> Can be? It is.
>
> Please do not post to newsgroups in rich text.
>
>
> --
> Regards Steve.
> MS-MVP : Mail.
> [DTS] UK.

02-09-2008	#1 (permalink)
Phiwin n/a posts	Can I run Outlook Exp on my Vista Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't have to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to resurrect that saying. Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties - we buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software to work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part. So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is whether I continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over to the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one, rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various discussion sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to render WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we are into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump the 2nd party software.) I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read on my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004. -- Phil
My System Specs

02-09-2008	#2 (permalink)
Kevin n/a posts	Re: Can I run Outlook Exp on my Vista "Phiwin" <Phiwin@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AC7383E3-4F22-4B49-BCAB-8B6174344B3A@xxxxxx Quote: > Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't > have > to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to > resurrect > that saying. > > Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties - > we > buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so > software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the > functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software > to > work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part. > > So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is whether > I > continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook > Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over > to > the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one, > rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various > discussion > sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to > render > WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the > folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we > are > into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump the > 2nd party software.) > > I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read > on > my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004. > -- > Phil Windows Mail is the replacement for Outlook Express. You can't run OE on a Vista system. You can try using Windows Live Mail. I have four security applications running on my Vista Premium system and have no issues with Windows Mail. You need to take a look at the settings for your security software. Disable any email scanning that may be taking place.
My System Specs

02-09-2008	#3 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen n/a posts	Re: Can I run Outlook Exp on my Vista I don't understand your argument about 2nd party versus 3rd party. Having worked with computers for some 42 years, I know that the OS is supreme, and apps that want to run on that OS had better play by the OS's rules! If Microsoft never improved their OS (Windows), all the old apps would continue to run, but at what cost to security? The bad guys (hackers) are getting smarter all the time, and the OS had better evolve in order to counter this onslaught. No, OE won't install or run on Vista. Windows Live Mail (touted by MS as a replacement for Windows Mail) seems more resistant to corruption from antivirus programs, so you may want to give WLM a try: http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) "Phiwin" <Phiwin@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AC7383E3-4F22-4B49-BCAB-8B6174344B3A@xxxxxx Quote: > Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't have > to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to resurrect > that saying. > > Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties - we > buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so > software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the > functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software to > work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part. > > So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is whether I > continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook > Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over to > the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one, > rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various discussion > sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to render > WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the > folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we are > into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump the > 2nd party software.) > > I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read on > my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004. > -- > Phil
My System Specs

02-09-2008	#4 (permalink)
¡°James~¤pª¯¡° n/a posts	Re: Can I run Outlook Exp on my Vista can Windows Live Mail be a news reader ? cheers : ) -- www.james-ho.com news://news.balabu.net/balaboy.james ¦³¨Æ§ä§Ú. "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ewZCf42aIHA.4144@xxxxxx Quote: >I don't understand your argument about 2nd party versus 3rd party. > Having worked with computers for some 42 years, I know that the > OS is supreme, and apps that want to run on that OS had better > play by the OS's rules! > > If Microsoft never improved their OS (Windows), all the old apps > would continue to run, but at what cost to security? The bad guys > (hackers) are getting smarter all the time, and the OS had better > evolve in order to counter this onslaught. > > No, OE won't install or run on Vista. > Windows Live Mail (touted by MS as a replacement for Windows Mail) > seems more resistant to corruption from antivirus programs, > so you may want to give WLM a try: > http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview > > -- > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) > > > "Phiwin" <Phiwin@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:AC7383E3-4F22-4B49-BCAB-8B6174344B3A@xxxxxx Quote: >> Back in the 60s the saying about Ma Bell was "We don't care - we don't >> have >> to." The feedback on these threads makes me think that it's time to >> resurrect >> that saying. >> >> Microsoft is not the 2nd party - Norton and McAfee are the 2nd parties - >> we >> buy their software. Microsoft is the 3rd party that installs their oh-so >> software on our computers and then expects us to uninstall or disable the >> functions of the 2d party software in order for their 3rd party software >> to >> work. Truly Ma Bell thinking on Microsoft's part. >> >> So I give up - I'll not be using Windows Mail. The question now is >> whether I >> continue to have two computers running - my old laptop that has Outlook >> Express that has NEVER been a problem. Or can I move Outlook Express over >> to >> the new Vista computer? (The problem I'm dealing with is not a new one, >> rather it's one that has been kicking around here on the various >> discussion >> sites since last spring - that is that the antivirus programs seem to >> render >> WM useless, i.e., no mail in or out and no access to the messages in the >> folders with some lame excuse about the lack of memory etc. Yet here we >> are >> into Feb 2008 and Windows Mail and it's advisors are still saying dump >> the >> 2nd party software.) >> >> I look forward to you constuctive suggestions - that I'll be able to read >> on >> my 5 yr old laptop running Outlook Express 2004. >> -- >> Phil > >
My System Specs

02-09-2008	#5 (permalink)
mac n/a posts	Re: Can I run Outlook Exp on my Vista "¡°James~¤pª¯¡°" <james@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eZubWD4aIHA.1188@xxxxxx Quote: > can Windows Live Mail be a news reader ? cheers : ) > > -- Can be? It is. Please do not post to newsgroups in rich text. -- Regards Steve. MS-MVP : Mail. [DTS] UK.
My System Specs

02-09-2008	#6 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen n/a posts	Re: Can I run Outlook Exp on my Vista Actually, he didn't post in Rich Text, but I have noticed that anytime a post uses charset="big5", WM displays it with a strange font, which is retained when replying to it. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) " mac" <macknever@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0C7D1710-14C3-4686-B655-F85C5F17C477@xxxxxx Quote: > > "¡°James~¤pª¯¡°" <james@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eZubWD4aIHA.1188@xxxxxx Quote: >> can Windows Live Mail be a news reader ? cheers : ) >> >> -- > > Can be? It is. > > Please do not post to newsgroups in rich text. > > > -- > Regards Steve. > MS-MVP : Mail. > [DTS] UK.
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