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Old 03-14-2008   #1 (permalink)
mc


 
 

Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
in the tower and move back to XP?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #2 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
> Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
> to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
> I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
> Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
> true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
> remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
> system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
> be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
> in the tower and move back to XP?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #3 (permalink)
mc


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
> > in the tower and move back to XP?
>
>
>
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Old 03-14-2008   #4 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

No, not true. No ads.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8C47C2B8-A75A-420A-BB80-608F6774AB07@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
> that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
>> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
>> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
>> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
>> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
>> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
>> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
>> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
>> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
>> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
>> > in the tower and move back to XP?
>>
>>
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #5 (permalink)
mc


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

Ahh.....That's good. One last question if I may. By downloading and
installing Windows Live Mail, I assume it will help me importing all info
from Windows Live including saved in and sent mail. Right? I think calendar
and contacts are separate from Windows Mail. Are they also separate from
Windows Live Mail or part of it and will help importing them also?

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> No, not true. No ads.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8C47C2B8-A75A-420A-BB80-608F6774AB07@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
> > that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
> >> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
> >>
> >>
> >> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
> >> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
> >> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
> >> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
> >> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
> >> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
> >> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
> >> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
> >> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
> >> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
> >> > in the tower and move back to XP?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #6 (permalink)
mc


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

Sorry one more question regarding Windows Live Mail. I have a pop3 email
account with an ISP. Windows Live Mail can handle that, right?

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> No, not true. No ads.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8C47C2B8-A75A-420A-BB80-608F6774AB07@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
> > that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
> >> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
> >>
> >>
> >> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
> >> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
> >> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
> >> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
> >> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
> >> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
> >> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
> >> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
> >> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
> >> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
> >> > in the tower and move back to XP?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #7 (permalink)
StephenB


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

For a paid account, which your MSN account is, there are no ads.
Windows Mail can't access Hotmail/MSN Mail via http.
Windows Live Mail can.
-steve

mc <mc@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
>that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?
>
>"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
>> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
>> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
>> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
>> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
>> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
>> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
>> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
>> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
>> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
>> > in the tower and move back to XP?
>>
>>
>>
--
Stephen Boots
MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
sboots@xxxxxx
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #8 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

When you install Windows Live Mail, it automatically imports all
accounts, settings, rules, folder and emails from Windows Mail.
It does not always import contacts automatically, but there is an
easy manual import. You can continue to use the same Windows
Calendar. There is no integration between calendar and email
like there is with Outlook.
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:252FF09F-6B8B-478E-84FF-50FBFAC070ED@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Ahh.....That's good. One last question if I may. By downloading and
> installing Windows Live Mail, I assume it will help me importing all info
> from Windows Live including saved in and sent mail. Right? I think calendar
> and contacts are separate from Windows Mail. Are they also separate from
> Windows Live Mail or part of it and will help importing them also?
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> No, not true. No ads.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8C47C2B8-A75A-420A-BB80-608F6774AB07@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
>> > that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
>> >> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
>> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
>> >> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
>> >> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
>> >> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
>> >> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
>> >> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
>> >> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
>> >> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
>> >> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
>> >> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
>> >> > in the tower and move back to XP?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #9 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

Absolutely. WLM handles POP3, IMAP, and Hotmail accounts.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0F9C90C9-A7D4-4AA3-8A2C-5FA0CA1D79AE@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Sorry one more question regarding Windows Live Mail. I have a pop3 email
> account with an ISP. Windows Live Mail can handle that, right?
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> No, not true. No ads.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8C47C2B8-A75A-420A-BB80-608F6774AB07@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
>> > that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
>> >> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
>> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
>> >> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
>> >> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
>> >> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
>> >> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
>> >> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
>> >> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
>> >> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
>> >> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
>> >> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
>> >> > in the tower and move back to XP?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-14-2008   #10 (permalink)
mc


 
 

Re: Vista Windows Mail vs. MSN vs. Outlook Express

No, I do not have a paid account. I converted from MSN to another ISP many
years ago, and my MSN email address is just a hold over hotmail account that
I continue to use occassionally. Does that mean I will have to sign up for a
paid MSN account again or get streaming ads if I install Windows Live Mail?

"StephenB" wrote:
Quote:

> For a paid account, which your MSN account is, there are no ads.
> Windows Mail can't access Hotmail/MSN Mail via http.
> Windows Live Mail can.
> -steve
>
> mc <mc@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >I heard of Windows Live Mail also, but have not tried it because I also heard
> >that it streams ads which would be extremely annoying. Is that true?
> >
> >"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Don't worry, Microsoft came to the rescue.
> >> Just download and install Windows Live Mail:
> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
> >>
> >>
> >> "mc" <mc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:0BC8C62D-DD6A-4267-9893-931F6082651F@xxxxxx
> >> >I bought a new home computer with Vista to replace an old one running XP.
> >> > Outlook Express came with XP, while Vista has Windows Mail instead. I used
> >> > to be able to set it up to get my MSN mail from within Outlook Express, which
> >> > I have yet to figure out how to do the same with Windows Mail. I heard that
> >> > Windows mail cannot take in webmail like MSN. Is that true? Is that is
> >> > true, then two obvious questions. 1) Why would Microsoft go backward and
> >> > remove a functionality from newer mail program that comes with the operating
> >> > system? 2) Both Windows Mail and MSN are Microsoft products, so how can it
> >> > be possible that they don't connect? Can anyone enlighten me before I throw
> >> > in the tower and move back to XP?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Stephen Boots
> MVP Windows Live
> Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
> sboots@xxxxxx
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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