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Old 04-16-2008   #1 (permalink)
Anita


 
 

Applets

Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's reply
regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do applets
though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession of 2
of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard referenced
regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista. I've
had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not able to
grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these 2
applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what he's
stated before. I'm sorry.
--
Anita

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-17-2008   #2 (permalink)
La Divine


 
 

Re: Applets


Hi Anita,

I'm not part of the Microsoft team, but rather attracted to every thing
related to stationery;
that's why I looked for Richard Eagle's reply on the Net for you. Have a
look on the following link :

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1

I've had Vista for 8 days now. . . I preferred XP with OE, of course, for
its compatibility
with stationery. Right now, the only problem left for me to solve, is to
get those filters' .DLL
on the hard disk, Windows, dear System32 !!!!!!!

I deal with Vista as with a disturbed teenager with problems . . . . I
expect its bad behavior and
sudden reactions, waiting and hoping Microsoft will make it grow up with a
much better
version. Vista is so unstable, just cannot believe what it does when I'm
facing it .

Hélène aka La Divine






"Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
news:17B9E761-478D-4BD5-9762-A2524CEF5489@xxxxxx
Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's reply
regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do applets
though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession of 2
of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard referenced
regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista. I've
had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not able to
grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these 2
applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what he's
stated before. I'm sorry.
--
Anita

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-17-2008   #3 (permalink)


 
 

Re: Applets

Microsoft has apparantly stopped producing updates for Windows
Mail, but not admitted that it's no longer supported. They've
offered a newer email/newsreader program, Windows Live Mail,
that can take over any accounts Windows Mail can handle, in
addition to adding the capability to have some types of HTTP
accounts such as Hotmail.

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

If you want to ask how it handles stationery, you can probably get
better answers if you ask in newsgroup:

microsoft.public.windows.live.desktop

"La Divine" <petitemajusculeTAKETHISOUT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8A7CC395-7CD8-409F-8A52-68D7537DF247@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> Hi Anita,
>
> I'm not part of the Microsoft team, but rather attracted to every thing
> related to stationery;
> that's why I looked for Richard Eagle's reply on the Net for you. Have a
> look on the following link :
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1
>
> I've had Vista for 8 days now. . . I preferred XP with OE, of course, for
> its compatibility
> with stationery. Right now, the only problem left for me to solve, is to
> get those filters' .DLL
> on the hard disk, Windows, dear System32 !!!!!!!
>
> I deal with Vista as with a disturbed teenager with problems . . . . I
> expect its bad behavior and
> sudden reactions, waiting and hoping Microsoft will make it grow up with a
> much better
> version. Vista is so unstable, just cannot believe what it does when I'm
> facing it .
>
> Hélène aka La Divine
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
> news:17B9E761-478D-4BD5-9762-A2524CEF5489@xxxxxx
> Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's reply
> regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do
> applets
> though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession of
> 2
> of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard referenced
> regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista. I've
> had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not able
> to
> grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these 2
> applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what he's
> stated before. I'm sorry.
> --
> Anita
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-18-2008   #4 (permalink)
Steve Cochran


 
 

Re: Applets

I don't think it has any of the capabilities OE and Winmail have in terms of
what one can do creatively with stationery. I don't think you can even edit
the HTML code of the messages.

steve

<robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23pupWOJoIHA.1236@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Microsoft has apparantly stopped producing updates for Windows
> Mail, but not admitted that it's no longer supported. They've
> offered a newer email/newsreader program, Windows Live Mail,
> that can take over any accounts Windows Mail can handle, in
> addition to adding the capability to have some types of HTTP
> accounts such as Hotmail.
>
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> If you want to ask how it handles stationery, you can probably get
> better answers if you ask in newsgroup:
>
> microsoft.public.windows.live.desktop
>
> "La Divine" <petitemajusculeTAKETHISOUT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8A7CC395-7CD8-409F-8A52-68D7537DF247@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> Hi Anita,
>>
>> I'm not part of the Microsoft team, but rather attracted to every thing
>> related to stationery;
>> that's why I looked for Richard Eagle's reply on the Net for you. Have a
>> look on the following link :
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1
>>
>> I've had Vista for 8 days now. . . I preferred XP with OE, of course,
>> for
>> its compatibility
>> with stationery. Right now, the only problem left for me to solve, is
>> to
>> get those filters' .DLL
>> on the hard disk, Windows, dear System32 !!!!!!!
>>
>> I deal with Vista as with a disturbed teenager with problems . . . . I
>> expect its bad behavior and
>> sudden reactions, waiting and hoping Microsoft will make it grow up with
>> a
>> much better
>> version. Vista is so unstable, just cannot believe what it does when I'm
>> facing it .
>>
>> Hélène aka La Divine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
>> news:17B9E761-478D-4BD5-9762-A2524CEF5489@xxxxxx
>> Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's
>> reply
>> regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do
>> applets
>> though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession
>> of 2
>> of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard
>> referenced
>> regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista.
>> I've
>> had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not able
>> to
>> grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these
>> 2
>> applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what
>> he's
>> stated before. I'm sorry.
>> --
>> Anita
>>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2008   #5 (permalink)
Anita


 
 

Re: Applets

Thank you Richard for your input. In essence, what you are saying is that
there is really no way to get the 2 email applets out of my mailbox except to
switch to WLM? I had WLm once - for maybe 5 or 6 hrs - & switched back to
WM. I do not like having the Messenger feature on it. I think one should be
able to keep some things private & there should be an option for whether you
want it there or not without it being dictated to you by MS. I have
submitted a "form" to WML support asking them if an alternative to it that I
suggested would work. No answer as yet. Really aggrevating when one has done
Stats for years.
--
Anita


"robertmiles@xxxxxx" wrote:
Quote:

> Microsoft has apparantly stopped producing updates for Windows
> Mail, but not admitted that it's no longer supported. They've
> offered a newer email/newsreader program, Windows Live Mail,
> that can take over any accounts Windows Mail can handle, in
> addition to adding the capability to have some types of HTTP
> accounts such as Hotmail.
>
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> If you want to ask how it handles stationery, you can probably get
> better answers if you ask in newsgroup:
>
> microsoft.public.windows.live.desktop
>
> "La Divine" <petitemajusculeTAKETHISOUT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8A7CC395-7CD8-409F-8A52-68D7537DF247@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >
> > Hi Anita,
> >
> > I'm not part of the Microsoft team, but rather attracted to every thing
> > related to stationery;
> > that's why I looked for Richard Eagle's reply on the Net for you. Have a
> > look on the following link :
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1
> >
> > I've had Vista for 8 days now. . . I preferred XP with OE, of course, for
> > its compatibility
> > with stationery. Right now, the only problem left for me to solve, is to
> > get those filters' .DLL
> > on the hard disk, Windows, dear System32 !!!!!!!
> >
> > I deal with Vista as with a disturbed teenager with problems . . . . I
> > expect its bad behavior and
> > sudden reactions, waiting and hoping Microsoft will make it grow up with a
> > much better
> > version. Vista is so unstable, just cannot believe what it does when I'm
> > facing it .
> >
> > Hélène aka La Divine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
> > news:17B9E761-478D-4BD5-9762-A2524CEF5489@xxxxxx
> > Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's reply
> > regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do
> > applets
> > though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession of
> > 2
> > of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard referenced
> > regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista. I've
> > had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not able
> > to
> > grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these 2
> > applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what he's
> > stated before. I'm sorry.
> > --
> > Anita
> >
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2008   #6 (permalink)
Anita


 
 

Re: Applets

Steve, I may have to convert to WLM as much as I dislike it. As for it
handling stationeries, I'm sure it does as they are widely used even though a
lot of Web mail services take them apart & shows only the text. Takes the
fun out of sending a neat stat to someone who uses those services! I build
all my Stats in HTML code on the Internet so I would not really use the HTML
codes for the messages in the mail. In the years of doing Stats I've only
used it to see if there is an error on someones stat that comes thru with an
error popping up. Thanks for your input.
--
Anita


"Steve Cochran" wrote:
Quote:

> I don't think it has any of the capabilities OE and Winmail have in terms of
> what one can do creatively with stationery. I don't think you can even edit
> the HTML code of the messages.
>
> steve
>
> <robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23pupWOJoIHA.1236@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Microsoft has apparantly stopped producing updates for Windows
> > Mail, but not admitted that it's no longer supported. They've
> > offered a newer email/newsreader program, Windows Live Mail,
> > that can take over any accounts Windows Mail can handle, in
> > addition to adding the capability to have some types of HTTP
> > accounts such as Hotmail.
> >
> > http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >
> > If you want to ask how it handles stationery, you can probably get
> > better answers if you ask in newsgroup:
> >
> > microsoft.public.windows.live.desktop
> >
> > "La Divine" <petitemajusculeTAKETHISOUT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:8A7CC395-7CD8-409F-8A52-68D7537DF247@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >>
> >> Hi Anita,
> >>
> >> I'm not part of the Microsoft team, but rather attracted to every thing
> >> related to stationery;
> >> that's why I looked for Richard Eagle's reply on the Net for you. Have a
> >> look on the following link :
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1
> >>
> >> I've had Vista for 8 days now. . . I preferred XP with OE, of course,
> >> for
> >> its compatibility
> >> with stationery. Right now, the only problem left for me to solve, is
> >> to
> >> get those filters' .DLL
> >> on the hard disk, Windows, dear System32 !!!!!!!
> >>
> >> I deal with Vista as with a disturbed teenager with problems . . . . I
> >> expect its bad behavior and
> >> sudden reactions, waiting and hoping Microsoft will make it grow up with
> >> a
> >> much better
> >> version. Vista is so unstable, just cannot believe what it does when I'm
> >> facing it .
> >>
> >> Hlne aka La Divine
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> a crit dans le message de
> >> news:17B9E761-478D-4BD5-9762-A2524CEF5489@xxxxxx
> >> Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's
> >> reply
> >> regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do
> >> applets
> >> though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession
> >> of 2
> >> of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard
> >> referenced
> >> regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista.
> >> I've
> >> had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not able
> >> to
> >> grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these
> >> 2
> >> applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what
> >> he's
> >> stated before. I'm sorry.
> >> --
> >> Anita
> >>
> >
> >
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2008   #7 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Applets

Except for one tiny icon in the lower left corner, there is no sign of
Messenger on my WLM. Not sure why you think WLM has less privacy.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F0450812-61DE-4B4F-BB6D-724565A6BB6B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thank you Richard for your input. In essence, what you are saying is that
> there is really no way to get the 2 email applets out of my mailbox except to
> switch to WLM? I had WLm once - for maybe 5 or 6 hrs - & switched back to
> WM. I do not like having the Messenger feature on it. I think one should be
> able to keep some things private & there should be an option for whether you
> want it there or not without it being dictated to you by MS. I have
> submitted a "form" to WML support asking them if an alternative to it that I
> suggested would work. No answer as yet. Really aggrevating when one has done
> Stats for years.
> --
> Anita
>
>
> "robertmiles@xxxxxx" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Microsoft has apparantly stopped producing updates for Windows
>> Mail, but not admitted that it's no longer supported. They've
>> offered a newer email/newsreader program, Windows Live Mail,
>> that can take over any accounts Windows Mail can handle, in
>> addition to adding the capability to have some types of HTTP
>> accounts such as Hotmail.
>>
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> If you want to ask how it handles stationery, you can probably get
>> better answers if you ask in newsgroup:
>>
>> microsoft.public.windows.live.desktop
>>
>> "La Divine" <petitemajusculeTAKETHISOUT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:8A7CC395-7CD8-409F-8A52-68D7537DF247@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >
>> > Hi Anita,
>> >
>> > I'm not part of the Microsoft team, but rather attracted to every thing
>> > related to stationery;
>> > that's why I looked for Richard Eagle's reply on the Net for you. Have a
>> > look on the following link :
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1
>> >
>> > I've had Vista for 8 days now. . . I preferred XP with OE, of course, for
>> > its compatibility
>> > with stationery. Right now, the only problem left for me to solve, is to
>> > get those filters' .DLL
>> > on the hard disk, Windows, dear System32 !!!!!!!
>> >
>> > I deal with Vista as with a disturbed teenager with problems . . . . I
>> > expect its bad behavior and
>> > sudden reactions, waiting and hoping Microsoft will make it grow up with a
>> > much better
>> > version. Vista is so unstable, just cannot believe what it does when I'm
>> > facing it .
>> >
>> > Hélène aka La Divine
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
>> > news:17B9E761-478D-4BD5-9762-A2524CEF5489@xxxxxx
>> > Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's reply
>> > regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do
>> > applets
>> > though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession of
>> > 2
>> > of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard referenced
>> > regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista. I've
>> > had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not able
>> > to
>> > grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these 2
>> > applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what he's
>> > stated before. I'm sorry.
>> > --
>> > Anita
>> >
>>
>>
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-26-2008   #8 (permalink)
Richard Eagle


 
 

Re: Applets

Anita, I haven't checked this thread in more than a month so I may not
understand the question. Are you saying that you have 2 applet stationery
emails in your Windows Mail inbox and you cannot delete them?

As for Vista Windows Mail and stationery, it works fine for me. I can embed
EOTs and flash, use the metacreations filters, etc. and use stationery
scripts just like in OE. I tried a beta version of WLM last year and found
it useless for advanced stationery. Maybe it's improved now, I don't know.
I'll have to try it again in the future and see.

Richard


"Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F0450812-61DE-4B4F-BB6D-724565A6BB6B@xxxxxx
Thank you Richard for your input. In essence, what you are saying is that
there is really no way to get the 2 email applets out of my mailbox except
to
switch to WLM? I had WLm once - for maybe 5 or 6 hrs - & switched back to
WM. I do not like having the Messenger feature on it. I think one should
be
able to keep some things private & there should be an option for whether you
want it there or not without it being dictated to you by MS. I have
submitted a "form" to WML support asking them if an alternative to it that I
suggested would work. No answer as yet. Really aggrevating when one has
done
Stats for years.
--
Anita


"robertmiles@xxxxxx" wrote:
Quote:

> Microsoft has apparantly stopped producing updates for Windows
> Mail, but not admitted that it's no longer supported. They've
> offered a newer email/newsreader program, Windows Live Mail,
> that can take over any accounts Windows Mail can handle, in
> addition to adding the capability to have some types of HTTP
> accounts such as Hotmail.
>
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> If you want to ask how it handles stationery, you can probably get
> better answers if you ask in newsgroup:
>
> microsoft.public.windows.live.desktop
>
> "La Divine" <petitemajusculeTAKETHISOUT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8A7CC395-7CD8-409F-8A52-68D7537DF247@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >
> > Hi Anita,
> >
> > I'm not part of the Microsoft team, but rather attracted to every thing
> > related to stationery;
> > that's why I looked for Richard Eagle's reply on the Net for you. Have
> > a
> > look on the following link :
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1
> >
> > I've had Vista for 8 days now. . . I preferred XP with OE, of course,
> > for
> > its compatibility
> > with stationery. Right now, the only problem left for me to solve, is
> > to
> > get those filters' .DLL
> > on the hard disk, Windows, dear System32 !!!!!!!
> >
> > I deal with Vista as with a disturbed teenager with problems . . . . I
> > expect its bad behavior and
> > sudden reactions, waiting and hoping Microsoft will make it grow up with
> > a
> > much better
> > version. Vista is so unstable, just cannot believe what it does when
> > I'm
> > facing it .
> >
> > Hélène aka La Divine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Anita" <mythreedogs@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
> > news:17B9E761-478D-4BD5-9762-A2524CEF5489@xxxxxx
> > Don't mean to be redundant but I have read & re-read Richard Eagle's
> > reply
> > regarding applets freezing WM up. I am a Stationery maker (don't do
> > applets
> > though) & belong to an active Stationery Group. I am now in possession
> > of
> > 2
> > of these 'headaches' in my mail. I've read the article Richard
> > referenced
> > regarding the old Java. I have Sun Java on here & I am using Vista.
> > I've
> > had 20 yrs of experience with computers but for some reason I am not
> > able
> > to
> > grasp Richard's explanation. First of all, I'd really like to get these
> > 2
> > applet's out of WM & then, if Richard would, try explainng to me what
> > he's
> > stated before. I'm sorry.
> > --
> > Anita
> >
>
>
>




My System SpecsSystem Spec
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