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| | How do I defeat Spam with a blank Subject Line? > as such >> I'm running Vista and I have Windows Mail. Windows Mail is filtering out Spam that has nothing in the Subject Line (blank). But - it puts it in my Junk Mail folder and when I'm away for a week or so, this spam builds up (in the 100's). I need to find a way to create a Rule that 'Deletes' it from the Server, so that it never reaches my email. The only Rule for the Subject Line is; "Where the Subject Line contains specific words" and - because these Spam emails do not have a Subject Line (they are blank), then there is no way to apply this rule (to Delete it from the Server). I have asked many folks for a solution to this, but no one knows how to defeat these (and the "Viagra") types of Spam emails. Some folks have said that these are 'Professional Spammers' and they are just simply -Smarter- than everyone that is trying to stop them. Is that Really the Truth!?? Does anyone have a viable solution to this? If so, Please reply. With appreciation |
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| | Re: How do I defeat Spam with a blank Subject Line? > as such >> My apologies if this Outlook Express option does not help with WM, but I think it should. For Blank Subject: Box 1 - Where the Subject line contains specific words Box 2 - Delete it from server, or Delete It and Stop processing more rules to send it to Deleted Items. Box 3 - Click on the blue "Contains specific words" and Add *one at a time* a, e, i, o, u, y, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, Click: Options and change to: Does not contain.... {This is how it's been suggested to create the rule for a long time. I include the entire alphabet so an e-mail with a subject like XP will not be rejected}. For Blank From: See rule #1, and For Blank To & CC: See rule # 2 here: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm For Blank Message Body, Do the same as Blank Subject, but for the action, choose: Delete It and Stop processing more rules, as the message has to be download for the rule to realize the message body is blank. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Kaiser" <Kaiser@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1CC19F39-710C-4B40-BFDE-4E409A83D8EB@xxxxxx Quote: > I'm running Vista and I have Windows Mail. > > Windows Mail is filtering out Spam that has nothing in the Subject Line > (blank). > But - it puts it in my Junk Mail folder and when I'm away for a week or > so, > this spam builds up (in the 100's). > > I need to find a way to create a Rule that 'Deletes' it from the Server, > so > that it never reaches my email. > > The only Rule for the Subject Line is; > "Where the Subject Line contains specific words" > and - because these Spam emails do not have a Subject Line (they are > blank), > then there is no way to apply this rule (to Delete it from the Server). > > I have asked many folks for a solution to this, but no one knows how to > defeat these (and the "Viagra") types of Spam emails. > > Some folks have said that these are 'Professional Spammers' and they are > just simply -Smarter- than everyone that is trying to stop them. > > Is that Really the Truth!?? > > Does anyone have a viable solution to this? > > If so, Please reply. > > With appreciation |
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| | Re: How do I defeat Spam with a blank Subject Line? > as such >> Can you honestly tell me that no friend or relative has ever sent you an email with a blank subject line? I'd be a little cautious about deleting those outright. I remember seeing a message rule once that dealt with blank subjects. It relied on the characteristic that English words must have at least one vowel. Sorry, I don't remember the details. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) "Kaiser" <Kaiser@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1CC19F39-710C-4B40-BFDE-4E409A83D8EB@xxxxxx Quote: > I'm running Vista and I have Windows Mail. > > Windows Mail is filtering out Spam that has nothing in the Subject Line > (blank). > But - it puts it in my Junk Mail folder and when I'm away for a week or so, > this spam builds up (in the 100's). > > I need to find a way to create a Rule that 'Deletes' it from the Server, so > that it never reaches my email. > > The only Rule for the Subject Line is; > "Where the Subject Line contains specific words" > and - because these Spam emails do not have a Subject Line (they are blank), > then there is no way to apply this rule (to Delete it from the Server). > > I have asked many folks for a solution to this, but no one knows how to > defeat these (and the "Viagra") types of Spam emails. > > Some folks have said that these are 'Professional Spammers' and they are > just simply -Smarter- than everyone that is trying to stop them. > > Is that Really the Truth!?? > > Does anyone have a viable solution to this? > > If so, Please reply. > > With appreciation |
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| | Re: How do I defeat Spam with a blank Subject Line? > as such >> The best solution I have found it a program called Mail Washer (firetrust.com). It is great. It runs in the background checking your mailbox and removing obvious spam using RBLs your own rules, and First Alert's spam database. Before you open your mail client, you check Mail Washer's list of headers and tell it what to do with what is still in your mailbox on the server (trash or leave it). Then, when you open your mail client, the only thing OE or WinMail sees, is good mail. Bob "Kaiser" <Kaiser@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1CC19F39-710C-4B40-BFDE-4E409A83D8EB@xxxxxx Quote: > I'm running Vista and I have Windows Mail. > > Windows Mail is filtering out Spam that has nothing in the Subject Line > (blank). > But - it puts it in my Junk Mail folder and when I'm away for a week or > so, > this spam builds up (in the 100's). > > I need to find a way to create a Rule that 'Deletes' it from the Server, > so > that it never reaches my email. > > The only Rule for the Subject Line is; > "Where the Subject Line contains specific words" > and - because these Spam emails do not have a Subject Line (they are > blank), > then there is no way to apply this rule (to Delete it from the Server). > > I have asked many folks for a solution to this, but no one knows how to > defeat these (and the "Viagra") types of Spam emails. > > Some folks have said that these are 'Professional Spammers' and they are > just simply -Smarter- than everyone that is trying to stop them. > > Is that Really the Truth!?? > > Does anyone have a viable solution to this? > > If so, Please reply. > > With appreciation |
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| | Re: How do I defeat Spam with a blank Subject Line? > as such >> I have no doubt that Mail Washer is good, as I have heard others give it good reports. However, it seems like double work to me to first check and dispose the headers in Mail Washer, and then open your email client. My email client filter in conjunction with my ISP's spam filter does a pretty good job separating the wheat from the chaff, and I don't need to open a separate program. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) "Bob" <name@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:3252AB9E-EB76-46FD-8AE8-A77407362BDB@xxxxxx Quote: > The best solution I have found it a program called Mail Washer (firetrust.com). It is great. It runs in the background > checking your mailbox and removing obvious spam using RBLs your own rules, and First Alert's spam database. Before you open > your mail client, you check Mail Washer's list of headers and tell it what to do with what is still in your mailbox on the > server (trash or leave it). Then, when you open your mail client, the only thing OE or WinMail sees, is good mail. > > Bob > > "Kaiser" <Kaiser@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1CC19F39-710C-4B40-BFDE-4E409A83D8EB@xxxxxx Quote: >> I'm running Vista and I have Windows Mail. >> >> Windows Mail is filtering out Spam that has nothing in the Subject Line >> (blank). >> But - it puts it in my Junk Mail folder and when I'm away for a week or so, >> this spam builds up (in the 100's). >> >> I need to find a way to create a Rule that 'Deletes' it from the Server, so >> that it never reaches my email. >> >> The only Rule for the Subject Line is; >> "Where the Subject Line contains specific words" >> and - because these Spam emails do not have a Subject Line (they are blank), >> then there is no way to apply this rule (to Delete it from the Server). >> >> I have asked many folks for a solution to this, but no one knows how to >> defeat these (and the "Viagra") types of Spam emails. >> >> Some folks have said that these are 'Professional Spammers' and they are >> just simply -Smarter- than everyone that is trying to stop them. >> >> Is that Really the Truth!?? >> >> Does anyone have a viable solution to this? >> >> If so, Please reply. >> >> With appreciation |
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| | Re: How do I defeat Spam with a blank Subject Line? > as such >> Depends on the ISP. My old one, (Road Runner) didn't filter very much and did not have any online quarantine. We got tons of spam to deal with. I left Mail Washer running on my computer with the RBL, etc clearing the worst of it from mine, my wife's and my mom's accounts. Then just a quick sweep to highlight most of the questionables for deletion. Then my Outlook opened automatically to pull the rest. If you have a serious problem with Spam, it does help a lot. My Mom and her friends are the types who will forward everything to everyone, so her account was inundated with real raunchy spam. Had to do something to clear it up before downloading. But, when Comcast took over our cable service here, I retired the MW cause we get no more spam. Not even in the filtered folder online. Just nothing anymore. :-) The other option I like also, is using Gmail. Their filters work great. Bob "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uJ1LXQ8rIHA.4260@xxxxxx Quote: >I have no doubt that Mail Washer is good, as I have heard others give > it good reports. However, it seems like double work to me to first > check and dispose the headers in Mail Washer, and then open your > email client. My email client filter in conjunction with my ISP's spam > filter > does a pretty good job separating the wheat from the chaff, and I > don't need to open a separate program. > > -- > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) > > > "Bob" <name@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:3252AB9E-EB76-46FD-8AE8-A77407362BDB@xxxxxx Quote: >> The best solution I have found it a program called Mail Washer >> (firetrust.com). It is great. It runs in the background checking your >> mailbox and removing obvious spam using RBLs your own rules, and First >> Alert's spam database. Before you open your mail client, you check Mail >> Washer's list of headers and tell it what to do with what is still in >> your mailbox on the server (trash or leave it). Then, when you open your >> mail client, the only thing OE or WinMail sees, is good mail. >> >> Bob >> >> "Kaiser" <Kaiser@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:1CC19F39-710C-4B40-BFDE-4E409A83D8EB@xxxxxx Quote: >>> I'm running Vista and I have Windows Mail. >>> >>> Windows Mail is filtering out Spam that has nothing in the Subject Line >>> (blank). >>> But - it puts it in my Junk Mail folder and when I'm away for a week or >>> so, >>> this spam builds up (in the 100's). >>> >>> I need to find a way to create a Rule that 'Deletes' it from the Server, >>> so >>> that it never reaches my email. >>> >>> The only Rule for the Subject Line is; >>> "Where the Subject Line contains specific words" >>> and - because these Spam emails do not have a Subject Line (they are >>> blank), >>> then there is no way to apply this rule (to Delete it from the Server). >>> >>> I have asked many folks for a solution to this, but no one knows how to >>> defeat these (and the "Viagra") types of Spam emails. >>> >>> Some folks have said that these are 'Professional Spammers' and they are >>> just simply -Smarter- than everyone that is trying to stop them. >>> >>> Is that Really the Truth!?? >>> >>> Does anyone have a viable solution to this? >>> >>> If so, Please reply. >>> >>> With appreciation > |
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| | Re: How do I defeat Spam with a blank Subject Line? > as such >> Thanks for your feedback. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP "Bob" <name@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:350A9C60-57BA-4A60-9AA7-6A34C8D84375@xxxxxx Quote: > Depends on the ISP. My old one, (Road Runner) didn't filter very much and > did not have any online quarantine. We got tons of spam to deal with. I > left Mail Washer running on my computer with the RBL, etc clearing the > worst of it from mine, my wife's and my mom's accounts. Then just a quick > sweep to highlight most of the questionables for deletion. Then my > Outlook opened automatically to pull the rest. If you have a serious > problem with Spam, it does help a lot. > My Mom and her friends are the types who will forward everything to > everyone, so her account was inundated with real raunchy spam. Had to do > something to clear it up before downloading. > > But, when Comcast took over our cable service here, I retired the MW cause > we get no more spam. Not even in the filtered folder online. Just > nothing anymore. :-) > > The other option I like also, is using Gmail. Their filters work great. > > Bob > > "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:uJ1LXQ8rIHA.4260@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have no doubt that Mail Washer is good, as I have heard others give >> it good reports. However, it seems like double work to me to first >> check and dispose the headers in Mail Washer, and then open your >> email client. My email client filter in conjunction with my ISP's spam >> filter >> does a pretty good job separating the wheat from the chaff, and I >> don't need to open a separate program. >> >> -- >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) >> >> >> "Bob" <name@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:3252AB9E-EB76-46FD-8AE8-A77407362BDB@xxxxxx Quote: >>> The best solution I have found it a program called Mail Washer >>> (firetrust.com). It is great. It runs in the background checking your >>> mailbox and removing obvious spam using RBLs your own rules, and First >>> Alert's spam database. Before you open your mail client, you check Mail >>> Washer's list of headers and tell it what to do with what is still in >>> your mailbox on the server (trash or leave it). Then, when you open >>> your mail client, the only thing OE or WinMail sees, is good mail. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> "Kaiser" <Kaiser@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:1CC19F39-710C-4B40-BFDE-4E409A83D8EB@xxxxxx >>>> I'm running Vista and I have Windows Mail. >>>> >>>> Windows Mail is filtering out Spam that has nothing in the Subject Line >>>> (blank). >>>> But - it puts it in my Junk Mail folder and when I'm away for a week or >>>> so, >>>> this spam builds up (in the 100's). >>>> >>>> I need to find a way to create a Rule that 'Deletes' it from the >>>> Server, so >>>> that it never reaches my email. >>>> >>>> The only Rule for the Subject Line is; >>>> "Where the Subject Line contains specific words" >>>> and - because these Spam emails do not have a Subject Line (they are >>>> blank), >>>> then there is no way to apply this rule (to Delete it from the Server). >>>> >>>> I have asked many folks for a solution to this, but no one knows how to >>>> defeat these (and the "Viagra") types of Spam emails. >>>> >>>> Some folks have said that these are 'Professional Spammers' and they >>>> are >>>> just simply -Smarter- than everyone that is trying to stop them. >>>> >>>> Is that Really the Truth!?? >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a viable solution to this? >>>> >>>> If so, Please reply. >>>> >>>> With appreciation >>> >> |
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