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Old 05-19-2008   #1
Martin
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IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly

Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with a line
through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets permanently deleted.
This happens whatever options I choose in the advanced IMAP options. Also
running Windows Mail as administrator makes no difference (I'm using Vista
Ultimate).

I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same account
with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug in Windows
Mail.

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Old 05-19-2008   #2
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Re: IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly

I've just installed Windows Live Mail, and it exhibits exactly the same
behaviour!

"Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OaIRlRZuIHA.5096@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with a
> line through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets permanently
> deleted. This happens whatever options I choose in the advanced IMAP
> options. Also running Windows Mail as administrator makes no difference
> (I'm using Vista Ultimate).
>
> I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same account
> with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug in Windows
> Mail.
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Old 05-19-2008   #3
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Re: IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly


"Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OaIRlRZuIHA.5096@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with a
> line through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets permanently
> deleted. This happens whatever options I choose in the advanced IMAP
> options. Also running Windows Mail as administrator makes no difference
> (I'm using Vista Ultimate).
>
> I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same account
> with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug in Windows
> Mail.
Outlook is part of software packages that cost enough extra that Microsoft
does not want to make all of its features available in programs that come as
part of Vista or at no extra cost.

To have the deleted messages moved to the Deleted Items folder, click on
Tools, then Options, then Advanced. If there is no checkmark in the box
before Use the 'Deleted Items' folder with IMAP accounts, click on this
box, then Apply. Click on OK.


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Old 05-19-2008   #4
Martin
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Re: IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly

Hi,

I've already tried that (it's checked by default). It makes no difference.
In fact, whenever I have deleted messages in Outlook from this account, they
stay in the inbox, but with a line through them till they are purged.

Does IMAP message deleting work correctly for you (or anyone else reading
this)?

Martin

<robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OJfpH8buIHA.5244@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> "Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OaIRlRZuIHA.5096@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with a
>> line through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets permanently
>> deleted. This happens whatever options I choose in the advanced IMAP
>> options. Also running Windows Mail as administrator makes no difference
>> (I'm using Vista Ultimate).
>>
>> I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same account
>> with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug in Windows
>> Mail.
> Outlook is part of software packages that cost enough extra that Microsoft
> does not want to make all of its features available in programs that come
> as
> part of Vista or at no extra cost.
>
> To have the deleted messages moved to the Deleted Items folder, click on
> Tools, then Options, then Advanced. If there is no checkmark in the box
> before Use the 'Deleted Items' folder with IMAP accounts, click on this
> box, then Apply. Click on OK.
>
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Old 05-19-2008   #5
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Re: IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly

I don't have any IMAP accounts. This newsgroup is short on IMAP
experts.

"Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23ckmnUcuIHA.1220@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I've already tried that (it's checked by default). It makes no
> difference. In fact, whenever I have deleted messages in Outlook from this
> account, they stay in the inbox, but with a line through them till they
> are purged.
>
> Does IMAP message deleting work correctly for you (or anyone else reading
> this)?
>
> Martin
>
> <robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OJfpH8buIHA.5244@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> "Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OaIRlRZuIHA.5096@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with a
>>> line through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets permanently
>>> deleted. This happens whatever options I choose in the advanced IMAP
>>> options. Also running Windows Mail as administrator makes no difference
>>> (I'm using Vista Ultimate).
>>>
>>> I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same account
>>> with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug in Windows
>>> Mail.
>> Outlook is part of software packages that cost enough extra that
>> Microsoft
>> does not want to make all of its features available in programs that come
>> as
>> part of Vista or at no extra cost.
>>
>> To have the deleted messages moved to the Deleted Items folder, click on
>> Tools, then Options, then Advanced. If there is no checkmark in the box
>> before Use the 'Deleted Items' folder with IMAP accounts, click on this
>> box, then Apply. Click on OK.
>>

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Old 05-19-2008   #6
Gary VanderMolen
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Re: IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly

Did you try unchecking that option? That seems to be the
correct method, according to
http://email.about.com/od/outlookexp...de_deleted.htm

As Robert indicates, we have few (if any) IMAP experts here.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP


"Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23ckmnUcuIHA.1220@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I've already tried that (it's checked by default). It makes no
> difference. In fact, whenever I have deleted messages in Outlook from this
> account, they stay in the inbox, but with a line through them till they
> are purged.
>
> Does IMAP message deleting work correctly for you (or anyone else reading
> this)?
>
> Martin
>
> <robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OJfpH8buIHA.5244@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> "Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OaIRlRZuIHA.5096@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with a
>>> line through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets permanently
>>> deleted. This happens whatever options I choose in the advanced IMAP
>>> options. Also running Windows Mail as administrator makes no difference
>>> (I'm using Vista Ultimate).
>>>
>>> I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same account
>>> with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug in Windows
>>> Mail.
>> Outlook is part of software packages that cost enough extra that
>> Microsoft
>> does not want to make all of its features available in programs that come
>> as
>> part of Vista or at no extra cost.
>>
>> To have the deleted messages moved to the Deleted Items folder, click on
>> Tools, then Options, then Advanced. If there is no checkmark in the box
>> before Use the 'Deleted Items' folder with IMAP accounts, click on this
>> box, then Apply. Click on OK.
>>
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Old 05-20-2008   #7
Martin Davies
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Re: IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly

Hi,

Thanks for that tip. Having read the link below, I've now worked out what
you have to do, in order not to have messages purged as soon as they are
deleted.

Enabling Correct IMAP Delete Functionality in Windows Mail:

1) In Tools->Options->Advanced Tab: Uncheck 'Use Deleted Items folder with
IMAP accounts
2) In View->Current View sub-menu, there is now the menu item: ''Show
Deleted Items". If that is checked, all deleted items now appear in the
IMAP Inbox with a line through them, otherwise they are hidden.
3) In the Edit menu, there are are now 2 new items: 'Undelete' and 'Purge
Deleted Message'. Choose the latter to purge any deleted any messages from
the inbox.

This is the functionality I was originally looking for.

BTW, I cannot get the above to work in Windows Live Mail!!!

So I recommend Windows Mail, rather than Windows Live Mail, for IMAP
accounts.

If you select 'Tools->Options->Advanced Tab->Use Deleted Items folder with
IMAP accounts', this does not actually move any deleted messages to the
Deleted Items folder.

I guess I'm now the Windows Mail IMAP expert!!!

BTW, I would recommend IMAP over POP3 email any day (assuming you have a
mail client that supports IMAP properly!). It's especially good if you want
to check your personal email on multiple computers (e.g. at work and at
home) and ensure they are all synchronised (you don't get this with POP3).

Martin


"Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uvrZNMfuIHA.3968@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Did you try unchecking that option? That seems to be the
> correct method, according to
> http://email.about.com/od/outlookexp...de_deleted.htm
>
> As Robert indicates, we have few (if any) IMAP experts here.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
>
>
> "Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23ckmnUcuIHA.1220@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> I've already tried that (it's checked by default). It makes no
>> difference. In fact, whenever I have deleted messages in Outlook from
>> this account, they stay in the inbox, but with a line through them till
>> they are purged.
>>
>> Does IMAP message deleting work correctly for you (or anyone else reading
>> this)?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> <robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OJfpH8buIHA.5244@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>
>>> "Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OaIRlRZuIHA.5096@xxxxxx
>>>> Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with a
>>>> line through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets permanently
>>>> deleted. This happens whatever options I choose in the advanced IMAP
>>>> options. Also running Windows Mail as administrator makes no
>>>> difference (I'm using Vista Ultimate).
>>>>
>>>> I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same
>>>> account with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug
>>>> in Windows Mail.
>>> Outlook is part of software packages that cost enough extra that
>>> Microsoft
>>> does not want to make all of its features available in programs that
>>> come as
>>> part of Vista or at no extra cost.
>>>
>>> To have the deleted messages moved to the Deleted Items folder, click on
>>> Tools, then Options, then Advanced. If there is no checkmark in the box
>>> before Use the 'Deleted Items' folder with IMAP accounts, click on this
>>> box, then Apply. Click on OK.
>>>
>
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Old 05-20-2008   #8
Gary VanderMolen
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Re: IMAP Delete Does Not Work Correctly

Thanks for your feedback. I agree that IMAP has the potential
to become the de facto email protocol of the future.
Coming from a long established POP mail background, I found
IMAP to be a bit sluggish when I tried it last.

You may want to post your WLM IMAP problem in the WLM
newsgroup: microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP


"Martin Davies" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OVznYRluIHA.5832@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for that tip. Having read the link below, I've now worked out what
> you have to do, in order not to have messages purged as soon as they are
> deleted.
>
> Enabling Correct IMAP Delete Functionality in Windows Mail:
>
> 1) In Tools->Options->Advanced Tab: Uncheck 'Use Deleted Items folder with
> IMAP accounts
> 2) In View->Current View sub-menu, there is now the menu item: ''Show
> Deleted Items". If that is checked, all deleted items now appear in the
> IMAP Inbox with a line through them, otherwise they are hidden.
> 3) In the Edit menu, there are are now 2 new items: 'Undelete' and 'Purge
> Deleted Message'. Choose the latter to purge any deleted any messages
> from the inbox.
>
> This is the functionality I was originally looking for.
>
> BTW, I cannot get the above to work in Windows Live Mail!!!
>
> So I recommend Windows Mail, rather than Windows Live Mail, for IMAP
> accounts.
>
> If you select 'Tools->Options->Advanced Tab->Use Deleted Items folder with
> IMAP accounts', this does not actually move any deleted messages to the
> Deleted Items folder.
>
> I guess I'm now the Windows Mail IMAP expert!!!
>
> BTW, I would recommend IMAP over POP3 email any day (assuming you have a
> mail client that supports IMAP properly!). It's especially good if you
> want to check your personal email on multiple computers (e.g. at work and
> at home) and ensure they are all synchronised (you don't get this with
> POP3).
>
> Martin
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uvrZNMfuIHA.3968@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Did you try unchecking that option? That seems to be the
>> correct method, according to
>> http://email.about.com/od/outlookexp...de_deleted.htm
>>
>> As Robert indicates, we have few (if any) IMAP experts here.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
>>
>>
>> "Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23ckmnUcuIHA.1220@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've already tried that (it's checked by default). It makes no
>>> difference. In fact, whenever I have deleted messages in Outlook from
>>> this account, they stay in the inbox, but with a line through them till
>>> they are purged.
>>>
>>> Does IMAP message deleting work correctly for you (or anyone else
>>> reading this)?
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> <robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OJfpH8buIHA.5244@xxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> "Martin" <martin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:OaIRlRZuIHA.5096@xxxxxx
>>>>> Whenever I delete a message from my inbox, rather than appearing with
>>>>> a line through it, or being sent to the trash folder it gets
>>>>> permanently deleted. This happens whatever options I choose in the
>>>>> advanced IMAP options. Also running Windows Mail as administrator
>>>>> makes no difference (I'm using Vista Ultimate).
>>>>>
>>>>> I get the expected IMAP delete functionality when using the same
>>>>> account with Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003, so I assume this is a bug
>>>>> in Windows Mail.
>>>> Outlook is part of software packages that cost enough extra that
>>>> Microsoft
>>>> does not want to make all of its features available in programs that
>>>> come as
>>>> part of Vista or at no extra cost.
>>>>
>>>> To have the deleted messages moved to the Deleted Items folder, click
>>>> on
>>>> Tools, then Options, then Advanced. If there is no checkmark in the
>>>> box
>>>> before Use the 'Deleted Items' folder with IMAP accounts, click on this
>>>> box, then Apply. Click on OK.
>>>>
>>
>
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