Vista Tutorial - Draft email now shown as a read/sent email

OK I have a Toshiba A200-28P laptop with Vista Home Premium SP1, NIS 2008(no issues with this) and a few times lately it keeps picking the odd draft email to mark it as read/sent email so I can't open it and edit it. Today I have 7 emails in the draft folder and it's picked one that I hadn't quite finished before I turned the laptop off to do this to, so now I can't open it and edit it to do this I've got to cut and paste it to a new email to finish this email.

It's done it before and for no reason and the other day it sent 8 emails then when I turned the laptop on later in the evening all 8 were in the drafts folder as can't find message and they hadn't shown in the sent folder yet had sent as friends replied to them. Also another weird thing I've noticed is that on the laptop(have a Compaq desktop with same Vista) that when I send an email to the outbox it doesn't show as being there, you know how a little number shows next to the outbox telling you how many are in there. Has anybody has had this issue with Windows Mail on any other computer or is it unique to my laptop?

Any help would be much appreciated

Debbie(technically challenged in windows mail area on laptop at moment)

Looks like you may have found your first issues with NIS; these symptoms can
occur as a result of an AV application setup to scan email that gets a tummy
ache. Try removing NIS, running their debris removal tool to remove all the
crud the uninstaller leaves behind, then use the "Custom" install feature to
re-install it without any email scanning modules/services and see if the
problem persists. Email scanning is redundant, it does nothing but create
problems where none exist, and your system is fully protected without it,
provided you keep the resident file system scanner up to date.

http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05033108162039
Download and run the Norton Removal Tool

Alternatively, you can try upgrading Windows Mail to Windows Live Mail, it
is less prone to suffering bad effects from overly aggressive antivirus
programs.

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

Hal
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"Simreaper" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the reply, the weird thing is use same NIS program on desktop and no issues on there just on laptop and both set up to only scan incoming mail not outgoing as always turn it off even when had XP as know it can cause some issues and more important for incoming than outgoing and keep updates well and truly updated as if it doesn't do its auto check when I'm online before I log off I check for any updates. This is why am so confused as its only laptop that does it not desktop that has all same programs on it but doesn't do the delayed message of how many in inbox/outbox/draft just the laptop.

If keeps doing it might consider upgrading to the windows live on laptop as definitely seems to be laptop issue not desktop yet specifications for both are almost identical and both running same programs.

Will keep an eye on it and see what happens and will post back and let you know what happens.

Thanks for help,
Debbie

Eventually your desktop will exhibit a similar problem.
It is the 'luck of the draw' as far as when antivirus-related
corruption starts happening in Windows Mail.

Having your antivirus scan incoming email is not good either,
see:
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Simreaper" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:124d669d20f8182f203ac32f6f6a2b8b@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

Thanks that sounds interesting for now will leave incoming turned on and see what happens and if still happens then will disable the email scanning totally and never open attachments direct from my inbox have always saved them to desktop then let Norton scan them even when from friends addresses just in case they've been hacked and don't know it. Definitely come to conclusion that Vista still has more bugs than XP ever had :-(

OK, good luck.

(Note: it is customary here to quote the message one is replying to.)

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Simreaper" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:ec520ecb055227056e913546132d6389@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

You don't need email scanning, PERIOD! Here's why - any and EVERY
attachment you receive in email has been encoded so it will go through
email. The default method of doing this, these days, is MIME; other
versions include UUEncode and BinHex. You see, email can only pass
"printable characters" and binary files (pictures, executables, anything
that isn't pure text) contains a mix of printable and non-printable
characters. The only way to get these through email is to encode the
attachment so all characters are printable. This means the file must be
DEcoded after reception before it can do anything. The decode process takes
the attachment and writes the decoded output to a temporary file on the disk
as its being decoded. The instant this process finishes and BEFORE you or
your PC can do anything with it, the resident file system scanner in your
AntiVirus application grabs it and scans it. If it's malware, it gets
NAILED right then and there. This demonstrates that you are FULLY protected
WITHOUT email scanning, provided the resident file system scanner is kept up
to date.

Hal
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Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@xxxxxx
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Live at Hot Licks - www.badnewsbluesband.com

"Simreaper" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Hi Gary,

Sorry didn't know you were supposed to quote message not been on here much as new to vista but will remember this in the future thanks for letting me know.

Debbie

Hi Hal,

Thanks for this information and have to say the more I use Vista the more I hate it, as has more bugs than all the rainforests in the world do, wish had still been able to get XP when needed new laptop
The weird thing is the only place I have this problem is with my laptop, it doesn't show a newly drafted email as in there unless you close the program and then reopen it then it shows a blue number 1 in brackets same for outbox yet desktop as soon as you send anything to draft or outbox it shows up immediately as being in there. Also did disable incoming and outgoing scanning on laptop and guess what happened to the email I put in the drafts folder last night before going to bed, any ideas? Yes it marked it as sent/read this morning when I turned it on and as had done a lot of it told laptop to forward it and then deleted the forwarded info and finished off the email.

Debbie

No problem. No one is born already knowing this stuff. ;-)

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


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