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11-12-2008
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| | Re: Disappearing message rules [Crossposted to Vista Mail newsgroup] If you disable (or even uninstall) F-Secure's anti-spam component *and* disable F-Secure's email scanning, does this behavior persist? Email scanning provides no additional protection and it's the most likely cause of the behavior. Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Jay Bryan wrote: Quote: > Running Vista Home Premium & F Secure Antivirus etc > > I use lots of message rules in Windows Mail (100+). These have been > running > sweetly for the last few months with no problems. > 2 days ago I realised the rules were not being followed and when I checked > they had all disappeared. In addition the 'F Secure' spam and phishing > rules > were present but disabled. Since then I have put a few rules back in and > re-enabled the spam & phishing. Every time I close Mail they disappear > again. Sounded like a virus so I have run my installed scanner and > external > scanning software but all come up negative. > Does anyone have any ideas? |
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11-12-2008
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| | Re: Disappearing message rules I don't have a solid diagnosis, but as a first order of business Jay needs to disable F-Secure's email scanning and anti-spam features. But PA Bear already said that. :-) -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:exLn%23$RRJHA.3932@xxxxxx Quote: > [Crossposted to Vista Mail newsgroup] > > If you disable (or even uninstall) F-Secure's anti-spam component *and* disable F-Secure's email scanning, does this behavior > persist? > > Email scanning provides no additional protection and it's the most likely cause of the behavior. > > Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email > http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > > Jay Bryan wrote: Quote: >> Running Vista Home Premium & F Secure Antivirus etc >> >> I use lots of message rules in Windows Mail (100+). These have been running >> sweetly for the last few months with no problems. >> 2 days ago I realised the rules were not being followed and when I checked >> they had all disappeared. In addition the 'F Secure' spam and phishing rules >> were present but disabled. Since then I have put a few rules back in and >> re-enabled the spam & phishing. Every time I close Mail they disappear >> again. Sounded like a virus so I have run my installed scanner and external >> scanning software but all come up negative. >> Does anyone have any ideas? |
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11-13-2008
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| | Re: Disappearing message rules [Thanks, Gary!] Gary VanderMolen wrote: Quote: > I don't have a solid diagnosis, but as a first order of business Jay > needs to disable F-Secure's email scanning and anti-spam features. > But PA Bear already said that. :-) > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:exLn%23$RRJHA.3932@xxxxxx Quote: >> [Crossposted to Vista Mail newsgroup] >> >> If you disable (or even uninstall) F-Secure's anti-spam component *and* >> disable F-Secure's email scanning, does this behavior persist? >> >> Email scanning provides no additional protection and it's the most likely >> cause of the behavior. Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your >> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >> >> Jay Bryan wrote: Quote: >>> Running Vista Home Premium & F Secure Antivirus etc >>> >>> I use lots of message rules in Windows Mail (100+). These have been >>> running sweetly for the last few months with no problems. >>> 2 days ago I realised the rules were not being followed and when I >>> checked >>> they had all disappeared. In addition the 'F Secure' spam and phishing >>> rules were present but disabled. Since then I have put a few rules back >>> in and re-enabled the spam & phishing. Every time I close Mail they >>> disappear again. Sounded like a virus so I have run my installed scanner >>> and external scanning software but all come up negative. >>> Does anyone have any ideas? |
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11-13-2008
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| | Re: Disappearing message rules Thanks to you both. Left F-Secure spam & phishing filters disabled and the problem ceased immediately. Re-installed F-Secure to be safe. Thinking back...don't know where those two filters came from. They weren't there a month ago and since I've re-installed F-Secure they haven't reappeared. JAYBEE "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: Quote: > [Thanks, Gary!] > > Gary VanderMolen wrote: Quote: > > I don't have a solid diagnosis, but as a first order of business Jay > > needs to disable F-Secure's email scanning and anti-spam features. > > But PA Bear already said that. :-) > > > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:exLn%23$RRJHA.3932@xxxxxx Quote: > >> [Crossposted to Vista Mail newsgroup] > >> > >> If you disable (or even uninstall) F-Secure's anti-spam component *and* > >> disable F-Secure's email scanning, does this behavior persist? > >> > >> Email scanning provides no additional protection and it's the most likely > >> cause of the behavior. Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your > >> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm > >> -- > >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > >> > >> Jay Bryan wrote: > >>> Running Vista Home Premium & F Secure Antivirus etc > >>> > >>> I use lots of message rules in Windows Mail (100+). These have been > >>> running sweetly for the last few months with no problems. > >>> 2 days ago I realised the rules were not being followed and when I > >>> checked > >>> they had all disappeared. In addition the 'F Secure' spam and phishing > >>> rules were present but disabled. Since then I have put a few rules back > >>> in and re-enabled the spam & phishing. Every time I close Mail they > >>> disappear again. Sounded like a virus so I have run my installed scanner > >>> and external scanning software but all come up negative. > >>> Does anyone have any ideas? > |
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11-13-2008
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| | Re: Disappearing message rules Antivirus vendors tend to install automatic program updates which can cause problems. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) "Jay Bryan" <JayBryan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:324219DD-14E1-4BEA-A761-812837F5F306@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks to you both. > > Left F-Secure spam & phishing filters disabled and the problem ceased > immediately. Re-installed F-Secure to be safe. > Thinking back...don't know where those two filters came from. They weren't > there a month ago and since I've re-installed F-Secure they haven't > reappeared. > > JAYBEE > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Quote: >> [Thanks, Gary!] >> >> Gary VanderMolen wrote: Quote: >> > I don't have a solid diagnosis, but as a first order of business Jay >> > needs to disable F-Secure's email scanning and anti-spam features. >> > But PA Bear already said that. :-) >> > >> > >> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > news:exLn%23$RRJHA.3932@xxxxxx >> >> [Crossposted to Vista Mail newsgroup] >> >> >> >> If you disable (or even uninstall) F-Secure's anti-spam component *and* >> >> disable F-Secure's email scanning, does this behavior persist? >> >> >> >> Email scanning provides no additional protection and it's the most likely >> >> cause of the behavior. Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your >> >> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm >> >> -- >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >> >> >> >> Jay Bryan wrote: >> >>> Running Vista Home Premium & F Secure Antivirus etc >> >>> >> >>> I use lots of message rules in Windows Mail (100+). These have been >> >>> running sweetly for the last few months with no problems. >> >>> 2 days ago I realised the rules were not being followed and when I >> >>> checked >> >>> they had all disappeared. In addition the 'F Secure' spam and phishing >> >>> rules were present but disabled. Since then I have put a few rules back >> >>> in and re-enabled the spam & phishing. Every time I close Mail they >> >>> disappear again. Sounded like a virus so I have run my installed scanner >> >>> and external scanning software but all come up negative. >> >>> Does anyone have any ideas? >> |
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