Vista - Re: Using Windows Mail abroad.

03-07-2009

The process of receiving mail doesn't run into the restrictions that
sending email does. Only port 25 is blocked when away from home,
so even sending will work when using a port other than 25.

Like most POP mail clients, by default Windows Mail will remove a
message from the server after downloading it. If you don't like
that default you can change it:
Go to Tools, Accounts, select your mail account, Properties, Advanced,
enable "Leave a copy of messages on server."
You would have to make that setting change on all computers
you use to access that mail account.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)

"Ret." <xxx> wrote in message news:--2dnT3Oc_7oXi_UnZ2dnUVZ8qyWnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

> My understanding of ISP mail servers is that when abroad (I'm UK based) I
> have to access my e-mail (for both sending and receiving) via my ISP's
> website and 'Web Mail'. Certainly this is the way I have always done it and,
> when I have tried to use Windows Mail 'normally', I can neither download nor
> send e-mails when abroad because I cannot connect to my ISPs mail server.
>
> I was in Fuerteventura a couple of weeks ago, however, and using Wi-Fi I
> accessed my Pipex WebMail. I was working my way through my e-mails when
> suddenly they all vanished and my on-line Inbox was empty. I was completely
> baffled as to what had happened but was even more astonished when, after
> shutting down IE and opening Windows Mail, I found that all my vanished
> e-mails were in my Windows Mail inbox and had downloaded normally.
>
> I assumed that I had been mistaken about having to use Web Mail abroad and
> so tried sending an e-mail in the normal way - but got an error message
> about not being able to connect with the Pipex mail server.
>
> Can anyone explain what has happened here? I'm puzzled to say the least!
>
> Ret.
>

03-08-2009

Gary VanderMolen wrote:

Quote:

> The process of receiving mail doesn't run into the restrictions that
> sending email does. Only port 25 is blocked when away from home,
> so even sending will work when using a port other than 25.

OK, thanks for that. So can I just allocate another port when abroad to get
around the block? Are there any downsides to doing that? Which port would
you recommend re-setting to?

Quote:

>
> Like most POP mail clients, by default Windows Mail will remove a
> message from the server after downloading it. If you don't like
> that default you can change it:
> Go to Tools, Accounts, select your mail account, Properties, Advanced,
> enable "Leave a copy of messages on server."
> You would have to make that setting change on all computers
> you use to access that mail account.

I wouldn't particularly want to alter that if I could use Windows Mail in
the normal way - which I would prefer to do rather than having to log onto
the Pipex web-site to deal with my mail.

Your advice would be appreciated!

It would seem that I 'lost' my e-mail from my on-line service because I must
have opened Windows Mail prior to going to the Pipex web-site and then left
it open so that it downloaded my e-mails in the normal way.

I have just created a Windows Live e-mail account and added that to Windows
Mail - but I note that this account still uses Port 25 for outgoing
messages.

Ret.

Quote:

> "Ret." <xxx> wrote in message
> news:--2dnT3Oc_7oXi_UnZ2dnUVZ8qyWnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> My understanding of ISP mail servers is that when abroad (I'm UK
>> based) I have to access my e-mail (for both sending and receiving)
>> via my ISP's website and 'Web Mail'. Certainly this is the way I
>> have always done it and, when I have tried to use Windows Mail
>> 'normally', I can neither download nor send e-mails when abroad
>> because I cannot connect to my ISPs mail server.
>>
>> I was in Fuerteventura a couple of weeks ago, however, and using
>> Wi-Fi I accessed my Pipex WebMail. I was working my way through my
>> e-mails when suddenly they all vanished and my on-line Inbox was
>> empty. I was completely baffled as to what had happened but was even
>> more astonished when, after shutting down IE and opening Windows
>> Mail, I found that all my vanished e-mails were in my Windows Mail
>> inbox and had downloaded normally.
>>
>> I assumed that I had been mistaken about having to use Web Mail
>> abroad and so tried sending an e-mail in the normal way - but got an
>> error message about not being able to connect with the Pipex mail
>> server.
>>
>> Can anyone explain what has happened here? I'm puzzled to say the
>> least!
>>
>> Ret.

03-09-2009

"Ret." <xxx> wrote in message news:2_udnaOfrftkDi7UnZ2dneKdnZyWnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Gary VanderMolen wrote:

Quote:

>> The process of receiving mail doesn't run into the restrictions that
>> sending email does. Only port 25 is blocked when away from home,
>> so even sending will work when using a port other than 25.

>
> OK, thanks for that. So can I just allocate another port when abroad to get
> around the block? Are there any downsides to doing that? Which port would
> you recommend re-setting to?

You can only use ports that are supported by your specific mail server.
Each mail service provider normally has a web page that spells out which
port numbers are available for use.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)

03-09-2009

You're very welcome. Thanks for reporting back.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)

"Ret." <xxx> wrote in message news:qpqdndU2bNn-JC7UnZ2dnUVZ8ouWnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

>
> Having seen your response to a similar question on another forum, Gary, I've
> done as you suggested there and opened a gmail account and set that up with
> Windows Mail. I can now download my messages via Windows Mail as normal -
> and any I want to reply to I can send via gmail, but using Windows Mail.
> Excellent!
>
> Ret.

03-07-2009	#1 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen n/a posts	Re: Using Windows Mail abroad. The process of receiving mail doesn't run into the restrictions that sending email does. Only port 25 is blocked when away from home, so even sending will work when using a port other than 25. Like most POP mail clients, by default Windows Mail will remove a message from the server after downloading it. If you don't like that default you can change it: Go to Tools, Accounts, select your mail account, Properties, Advanced, enable "Leave a copy of messages on server." You would have to make that setting change on all computers you use to access that mail account. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) "Ret." <xxx> wrote in message news:--2dnT3Oc_7oXi_UnZ2dnUVZ8qyWnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > My understanding of ISP mail servers is that when abroad (I'm UK based) I > have to access my e-mail (for both sending and receiving) via my ISP's > website and 'Web Mail'. Certainly this is the way I have always done it and, > when I have tried to use Windows Mail 'normally', I can neither download nor > send e-mails when abroad because I cannot connect to my ISPs mail server. > > I was in Fuerteventura a couple of weeks ago, however, and using Wi-Fi I > accessed my Pipex WebMail. I was working my way through my e-mails when > suddenly they all vanished and my on-line Inbox was empty. I was completely > baffled as to what had happened but was even more astonished when, after > shutting down IE and opening Windows Mail, I found that all my vanished > e-mails were in my Windows Mail inbox and had downloaded normally. > > I assumed that I had been mistaken about having to use Web Mail abroad and > so tried sending an e-mail in the normal way - but got an error message > about not being able to connect with the Pipex mail server. > > Can anyone explain what has happened here? I'm puzzled to say the least! > > Ret. >
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03-08-2009	#2 (permalink)
Ret. n/a posts	Re: Using Windows Mail abroad. Gary VanderMolen wrote: Quote: > The process of receiving mail doesn't run into the restrictions that > sending email does. Only port 25 is blocked when away from home, > so even sending will work when using a port other than 25. OK, thanks for that. So can I just allocate another port when abroad to get around the block? Are there any downsides to doing that? Which port would you recommend re-setting to? Quote: > > Like most POP mail clients, by default Windows Mail will remove a > message from the server after downloading it. If you don't like > that default you can change it: > Go to Tools, Accounts, select your mail account, Properties, Advanced, > enable "Leave a copy of messages on server." > You would have to make that setting change on all computers > you use to access that mail account. I wouldn't particularly want to alter that if I could use Windows Mail in the normal way - which I would prefer to do rather than having to log onto the Pipex web-site to deal with my mail. Your advice would be appreciated! It would seem that I 'lost' my e-mail from my on-line service because I must have opened Windows Mail prior to going to the Pipex web-site and then left it open so that it downloaded my e-mails in the normal way. I have just created a Windows Live e-mail account and added that to Windows Mail - but I note that this account still uses Port 25 for outgoing messages. Ret. Quote: > "Ret." <xxx> wrote in message > news:--2dnT3Oc_7oXi_UnZ2dnUVZ8qyWnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >> My understanding of ISP mail servers is that when abroad (I'm UK >> based) I have to access my e-mail (for both sending and receiving) >> via my ISP's website and 'Web Mail'. Certainly this is the way I >> have always done it and, when I have tried to use Windows Mail >> 'normally', I can neither download nor send e-mails when abroad >> because I cannot connect to my ISPs mail server. >> >> I was in Fuerteventura a couple of weeks ago, however, and using >> Wi-Fi I accessed my Pipex WebMail. I was working my way through my >> e-mails when suddenly they all vanished and my on-line Inbox was >> empty. I was completely baffled as to what had happened but was even >> more astonished when, after shutting down IE and opening Windows >> Mail, I found that all my vanished e-mails were in my Windows Mail >> inbox and had downloaded normally. >> >> I assumed that I had been mistaken about having to use Web Mail >> abroad and so tried sending an e-mail in the normal way - but got an >> error message about not being able to connect with the Pipex mail >> server. >> >> Can anyone explain what has happened here? I'm puzzled to say the >> least! >> >> Ret.
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03-09-2009	#3 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen n/a posts	Re: Using Windows Mail abroad. "Ret." <xxx> wrote in message news:2_udnaOfrftkDi7UnZ2dneKdnZyWnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > Gary VanderMolen wrote: Quote: >> The process of receiving mail doesn't run into the restrictions that >> sending email does. Only port 25 is blocked when away from home, >> so even sending will work when using a port other than 25. > > OK, thanks for that. So can I just allocate another port when abroad to get > around the block? Are there any downsides to doing that? Which port would > you recommend re-setting to? You can only use ports that are supported by your specific mail server. Each mail service provider normally has a web page that spells out which port numbers are available for use. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
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03-09-2009	#4 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen n/a posts	Re: Using Windows Mail abroad. You're very welcome. Thanks for reporting back. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) "Ret." <xxx> wrote in message news:qpqdndU2bNn-JC7UnZ2dnUVZ8ouWnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > > Having seen your response to a similar question on another forum, Gary, I've > done as you suggested there and opened a gmail account and set that up with > Windows Mail. I can now download my messages via Windows Mail as normal - > and any I want to reply to I can send via gmail, but using Windows Mail. > Excellent! > > Ret.
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