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Old 03-26-2009   #1 (permalink)
John Breakwell


 
 

Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

Hi

I can see all newsgroup posts on the newsgroups I subscribe to except my own
posts. I know they were posted because I can go to
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups and view them in Internet
Explorer fine.

This started around the 3rd of March. Before then I'd been happily using
WinMail for newsgroups for a couple of years without issue.

I've tried resetting the local cache files - no change.
Can't see any options on WinMail to "ignore your own posts".

Windows Mail is version 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205) is that's any
help.

Cheers
John Brealwell (MSFT)
http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-26-2009   #2 (permalink)
John Breakwell


 
 

RE: Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

"This started around the 3rd of March. Before then I'd been happily using
WinMail for newsgroups for a couple of years without issue."

Just realised that this isn't strictly true.
I remember now that sometimes I had to repost to see my post in WinMail.
I've noticed that this resulted in duplicate posts on the newsgroup viewed
through IE.

So the problem was intermittent for a while and then 100% from a few weeks
ago.

Cheers
John Breakwell (MSFT)
http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-26-2009   #3 (permalink)
John Breakwell


 
 

RE: Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

Just tried Outlook Express 6 on another machine - same problem.
Is this a back-end optimisation I'm running into?

Cheers
John Breakwell (MSFT)
http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-26-2009   #4 (permalink)
Charlie Tame


 
 

Re: Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

John Breakwell wrote:
Quote:

> Just tried Outlook Express 6 on another machine - same problem.
> Is this a back-end optimisation I'm running into?
>
> Cheers
> John Breakwell (MSFT)
> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell
>

Well you do know that NG posts don't show up until you leave the group
and come back or you manually or automatically do a "Refresh"? You can
set things to read them every X minutes like mail, but that is not my
preference with larger groups. Some groups on some servers do not show
new posts for minutes or even hours.

There probably is an option to "Ignore User" and I seem to recall this
often happened with Outlook Express, easy to click on by accident and
all that, but I don't have and Windows NG stuff set up on this machine
(Using Thunderbird) so I can't be specific about where to look.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-26-2009   #5 (permalink)
John Breakwell


 
 

Re: Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

Hi Charlie,

Thanks for your suggestions.

These are posts missing since at least the beginning of March. WinMail has
been launched many times since then. I can see the posts from everybody else
in the threads I am posting on within a short time. My posts of the last few
weeks NEVER get displayed in WinMail or OE.

The "ignore user" option sounds interesting but I can't find an option for
that. I've checked OE as well in case I set this on a different machine but
no way to ignore users there either.

Is the "Include this account when checking for new messages" check box
relevant here? It was unchecked so I've checked it and forced posts to
download again but no appearance of recent posts from me.

Cheers
John Breakwell (MSFT)
http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-26-2009   #6 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

You indicate you access newsgroups with WinMail and OE, yet
the posts you've made to this newsgroup were all via the web interface.
Not sure what that's all about. The web interface can be quite flaky.

There are two settings in Windows Mail that may keep you from seeing
your posts:
1. Go to Tools, Options, Read, uncheck "Get 300 headers at a time".
2. On the General tab, uncheck "Use newsgroup message rating
features". Microsoft has acknowledged that there is a bug in the
Communities features that may prevent messages posted under
that feature from appearing.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"John Breakwell" <JohnBreakwell@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F9C4C238-49D0-4801-A32C-BF4F0A282E56@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi Charlie,
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> These are posts missing since at least the beginning of March. WinMail has
> been launched many times since then. I can see the posts from everybody else
> in the threads I am posting on within a short time. My posts of the last few
> weeks NEVER get displayed in WinMail or OE.
>
> The "ignore user" option sounds interesting but I can't find an option for
> that. I've checked OE as well in case I set this on a different machine but
> no way to ignore users there either.
>
> Is the "Include this account when checking for new messages" check box
> relevant here? It was unchecked so I've checked it and forced posts to
> download again but no appearance of recent posts from me.
>
> Cheers
> John Breakwell (MSFT)
> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-27-2009   #7 (permalink)
John Breakwell


 
 

Re: Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

Hi Gary,

"You indicate you access newsgroups with WinMail and OE, yet the posts
you've made to this newsgroup were all via the web interface. Not sure what
that's all about. The web interface can be quite flaky."

Am using the web interface as it is the only way I can see if my posts
appear or not.

I tried the settings you mention but none of my messages appear.

--
http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> You indicate you access newsgroups with WinMail and OE, yet
> the posts you've made to this newsgroup were all via the web interface.
> Not sure what that's all about. The web interface can be quite flaky.
>
> There are two settings in Windows Mail that may keep you from seeing
> your posts:
> 1. Go to Tools, Options, Read, uncheck "Get 300 headers at a time".
> 2. On the General tab, uncheck "Use newsgroup message rating
> features". Microsoft has acknowledged that there is a bug in the
> Communities features that may prevent messages posted under
> that feature from appearing.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "John Breakwell" <JohnBreakwell@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F9C4C238-49D0-4801-A32C-BF4F0A282E56@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Hi Charlie,
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
> >
> > These are posts missing since at least the beginning of March. WinMail has
> > been launched many times since then. I can see the posts from everybody else
> > in the threads I am posting on within a short time. My posts of the last few
> > weeks NEVER get displayed in WinMail or OE.
> >
> > The "ignore user" option sounds interesting but I can't find an option for
> > that. I've checked OE as well in case I set this on a different machine but
> > no way to ignore users there either.
> >
> > Is the "Include this account when checking for new messages" check box
> > relevant here? It was unchecked so I've checked it and forced posts to
> > download again but no appearance of recent posts from me.
> >
> > Cheers
> > John Breakwell (MSFT)
> > http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-27-2009   #8 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Can't see my own newsgroup posts in Windows Mail

I'm not sure whether turning off the Communities feature in WM will
retroactively correct the failure to see previous posts. However, it
should definitely prevent that problem from happening to future posts.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"John Breakwell" <JohnBreakwell@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:33877A3D-81C0-414E-8DBF-B7C1244D8D10@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> "You indicate you access newsgroups with WinMail and OE, yet the posts
> you've made to this newsgroup were all via the web interface. Not sure what
> that's all about. The web interface can be quite flaky."
>
> Am using the web interface as it is the only way I can see if my posts
> appear or not.
>
> I tried the settings you mention but none of my messages appear.
>
> --
> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> You indicate you access newsgroups with WinMail and OE, yet
>> the posts you've made to this newsgroup were all via the web interface.
>> Not sure what that's all about. The web interface can be quite flaky.
>>
>> There are two settings in Windows Mail that may keep you from seeing
>> your posts:
>> 1. Go to Tools, Options, Read, uncheck "Get 300 headers at a time".
>> 2. On the General tab, uncheck "Use newsgroup message rating
>> features". Microsoft has acknowledged that there is a bug in the
>> Communities features that may prevent messages posted under
>> that feature from appearing.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>>
>>
>> "John Breakwell" <JohnBreakwell@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F9C4C238-49D0-4801-A32C-BF4F0A282E56@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Hi Charlie,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your suggestions.
>> >
>> > These are posts missing since at least the beginning of March. WinMail has
>> > been launched many times since then. I can see the posts from everybody else
>> > in the threads I am posting on within a short time. My posts of the last few
>> > weeks NEVER get displayed in WinMail or OE.
>> >
>> > The "ignore user" option sounds interesting but I can't find an option for
>> > that. I've checked OE as well in case I set this on a different machine but
>> > no way to ignore users there either.
>> >
>> > Is the "Include this account when checking for new messages" check box
>> > relevant here? It was unchecked so I've checked it and forced posts to
>> > download again but no appearance of recent posts from me.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > John Breakwell (MSFT)
>> > http://blogs.msdn.com/johnbreakwell
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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