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Old 05-05-2009   #1 (permalink)
Blithe


 
 

Old email header date - the cause? the fix?

Vista Ultimate (SP1)
A few days ago Windows mail refused to allow me to post to Microsoft
newsgroups. A system error popup window announced my header date was too
old. It was dated 2000.

I copied the error but no longer have it as I failed to save it before
executing a full system restore (first time I ever tried that).

Here is some background. I had never previously encountered such an error.
Google & Microsoft Knowledge Base searches came up with nothing. Sending
Windows Mail to personal contacts were not similarly affected - I just could
not post to newsgroups.

But then! I accidentally discovered my Vista calendar/clock had been turned
back to the year 2000. I reset the clock but that did not fix the problem -
same results.

Thankfully, my full system restore from a week old backup did make the
problem vanish.

If I re-encounter this issue I'd sure like to have a fix ready. Any
suggestions?

Thank you - Blithe




My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-05-2009   #2 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Old email header date - the cause? the fix?

The battery that powers your PC's clock when the computer is off
may be failing. This is not something suitable for further discussion
in this Windows Mail newsgroup.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Blithe" <invalid@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:utE4ERbzJHA.1712@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Vista Ultimate (SP1)
> A few days ago Windows mail refused to allow me to post to Microsoft
> newsgroups. A system error popup window announced my header date was too
> old. It was dated 2000.
>
> I copied the error but no longer have it as I failed to save it before
> executing a full system restore (first time I ever tried that).
>
> Here is some background. I had never previously encountered such an error.
> Google & Microsoft Knowledge Base searches came up with nothing. Sending
> Windows Mail to personal contacts were not similarly affected - I just could
> not post to newsgroups.
>
> But then! I accidentally discovered my Vista calendar/clock had been turned
> back to the year 2000. I reset the clock but that did not fix the problem -
> same results.
>
> Thankfully, my full system restore from a week old backup did make the
> problem vanish.
>
> If I re-encounter this issue I'd sure like to have a fix ready. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thank you - Blithe
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-08-2009   #3 (permalink)
Blithe


 
 

Re: Old email header date - the cause? the fix?

Gary, thanks for the battery/clock suggestion -
To update: A full PC restore was the only way I found to fix the old header
date appearing when I repeatedly tried & was barred by Windows Mail from
posting to a newsgroup - even after resetting my Vista clock.

As for the possibility of a weak PC battery - I have researched that & the
issue remains an open possibility. Also, I checked other Vista newsgroups
to determine which one is suitable for a posting to ask for the recommended
protocol to test/replace a Vista PC battery (as you must know, there's no
Vista OS suggestion to test by software on a Vista desktop - unless the
desktop is connected to an emergency power outage device. Mine is not. I'm
assuming at this point that I keep watching the Vista clock & if it keeps on
ticking - keeping correct date/time - I do nothing. Otherwise I open the
case to replace.

Please advise what Vista/MS newsgroup, if any, do you recommend for such a
discussion? Reading the discussion threads on existing Vista
hardware/maintenance newsgroups indicate such a posting would be as
unsuitable there as on Vista Mail. Thanks -

Blithe

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:us8XMebzJHA.1716@xxxxxx
The battery that powers your PC's clock when the computer is off
may be failing. This is not something suitable for further discussion
in this Windows Mail newsgroup.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Blithe" <invalid@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:utE4ERbzJHA.1712@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Vista Ultimate (SP1)
> A few days ago Windows mail refused to allow me to post to Microsoft
> newsgroups. A system error popup window announced my header date was too
> old. It was dated 2000.
>
> I copied the error but no longer have it as I failed to save it before
> executing a full system restore (first time I ever tried that).
>
> Here is some background. I had never previously encountered such an
> error.
> Google & Microsoft Knowledge Base searches came up with nothing. Sending
> Windows Mail to personal contacts were not similarly affected - I just
> could
> not post to newsgroups.
>
> But then! I accidentally discovered my Vista calendar/clock had been
> turned
> back to the year 2000. I reset the clock but that did not fix the
> problem -
> same results.
>
> Thankfully, my full system restore from a week old backup did make the
> problem vanish.
>
> If I re-encounter this issue I'd sure like to have a fix ready. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thank you - Blithe
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-08-2009   #4 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Old email header date - the cause? the fix?

I'm not aware of any software that will test your CMOS battery,
but if your PC's clock consistently fails to keep the proper date/time
when the power has been off for a while, that's a sure sign of a
weak battery.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Blithe" <invalid@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eAgyAKC0JHA.1096@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Gary, thanks for the battery/clock suggestion -
> To update: A full PC restore was the only way I found to fix the old header
> date appearing when I repeatedly tried & was barred by Windows Mail from
> posting to a newsgroup - even after resetting my Vista clock.
>
> As for the possibility of a weak PC battery - I have researched that & the
> issue remains an open possibility. Also, I checked other Vista newsgroups
> to determine which one is suitable for a posting to ask for the recommended
> protocol to test/replace a Vista PC battery (as you must know, there's no
> Vista OS suggestion to test by software on a Vista desktop - unless the
> desktop is connected to an emergency power outage device. Mine is not. I'm
> assuming at this point that I keep watching the Vista clock & if it keeps on
> ticking - keeping correct date/time - I do nothing. Otherwise I open the
> case to replace.
>
> Please advise what Vista/MS newsgroup, if any, do you recommend for such a
> discussion? Reading the discussion threads on existing Vista
> hardware/maintenance newsgroups indicate such a posting would be as
> unsuitable there as on Vista Mail. Thanks -
>
> Blithe
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:us8XMebzJHA.1716@xxxxxx
> The battery that powers your PC's clock when the computer is off
> may be failing. This is not something suitable for further discussion
> in this Windows Mail newsgroup.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Blithe" <invalid@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:utE4ERbzJHA.1712@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Vista Ultimate (SP1)
>> A few days ago Windows mail refused to allow me to post to Microsoft
>> newsgroups. A system error popup window announced my header date was too
>> old. It was dated 2000.
>>
>> I copied the error but no longer have it as I failed to save it before
>> executing a full system restore (first time I ever tried that).
>>
>> Here is some background. I had never previously encountered such an
>> error.
>> Google & Microsoft Knowledge Base searches came up with nothing. Sending
>> Windows Mail to personal contacts were not similarly affected - I just
>> could
>> not post to newsgroups.
>>
>> But then! I accidentally discovered my Vista calendar/clock had been
>> turned
>> back to the year 2000. I reset the clock but that did not fix the
>> problem -
>> same results.
>>
>> Thankfully, my full system restore from a week old backup did make the
>> problem vanish.
>>
>> If I re-encounter this issue I'd sure like to have a fix ready. Any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Thank you - Blithe
>>
>>
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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