Thanks for the hint on adding the sender. The problem with mailing lists is
that there are a lot of posters and you would have to approve everyone.
Some junk mail filters allow white listing IP addresses. Since Yahoo! Groups
publishes its list of server IP's, I wonder if there is a way of using that
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
> If you educate it by right clicking the message in the Junk Mail folder
> and choosig to add sender to the safe list it gets better pretty rappidly.
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> "Al" <AlTheElder@Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
>> FWIW: I did a check on the email received overnight. The accounts hooked
>> to Vista Windows Mail only get mail from Yahoo! Groups and Google Groups.
>> Here is the break down
>> 15 False Positives
>> 1 False Negative (HURRAY!)
>> 6 True Positives so its error rate is 14%. That's not good but it's ok.
>> (The pro's strive for 5% but this sample is really small)
>> 81 True Negatives so its error rate is 16% - suspiciously similar to 14%
>> (The pro's strive for something well under 1%)
>> Conclusion unless the junk filter vastly improves before production, I'll
>> recommend to my readers and clients that they keep it off. I can't
>> imagine what it would be like set to high. I'll let things go for a bit
>> and then switch to high. The WM developers goofed this setting up before,
>> perhaps its backwards.
>> Here is similar study for Outlook. However, it is skewed because for
>> obscure reasons I get soooo much junk mail there. The signal is a very
>> small fraction of the noise. On a really good day I get 10 pieces of real
>> mail. (For the same time period as the above study I got
>> 0 False Positives
>> 1 False Negative
>> 120 True Positives (I told you I got a lot of junk)
>> 0 True Negatives (My daily NY Times and WP briefings aren't in yet:-(((
>> False positives in this situation are a royal pain because there is so
>> little signal and so much noise. UNFORTUNATELY Outlook occasionally
>> treats mail from Microsoft as junk!!!! So I regularly look in the junk
>> box for stuff from Microsoft whatever.
>> NOTE TO MS LURKERS: I will cheerfully provide samples of what I got if
>> you are interested in seeing what's happening.
>> REPEATED NOTE TO MS LURKERS: There will be major difficulties if the
>> False Positive rate for MSN community mail is one iota different than for
>> competing list mail.