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Old 11-13-2006   #1 (permalink)
Tim Scott Mathews


 
 

Upgrade or fresh install

I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month ago)
version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of the
mail program to work.

Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or whatever the
prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway, without
a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my mail and
settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail program
under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure but I
thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the program
wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any way to
simply open and/or run Windows Mail.

I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was looking
forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some other minor
features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it going
to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will be a
complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will those
files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?

I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether this
is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.

Tim

PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external hard
drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully, the
settings after Windows Mail is installed.



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Old 11-13-2006   #2 (permalink)
Tom Ziegmann


 
 

RE: Upgrade or fresh install

The best thing to do for the RTM release is to do a clean install. MS can
make no guarantees as to if the upgrade from RC2 to RTM.
--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester



"Tim Scott Mathews" wrote:

> I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month ago)
> version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of the
> mail program to work.
>
> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or whatever the
> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway, without
> a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my mail and
> settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail program
> under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure but I
> thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the program
> wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any way to
> simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>
> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was looking
> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some other minor
> features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it going
> to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will be a
> complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will those
> files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>
> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether this
> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>
> Tim
>
> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external hard
> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully, the
> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>
>
>

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Old 11-14-2006   #3 (permalink)
Tim Scott Mathews


 
 

Re: Upgrade or fresh install

Sorry, you misunderstood. I'm done with betas and just thinking ahead to
January or whenever the finished retail version is available. I'm hoping to
make the install go as smoothly as possible. The beta has been romoved from
my system and I did a reformat of my hard drive so my system is now back to
it's Windows XP life and I'm wondering if I might run into the same problem
again thus, I'd choose install over upgrade--assuming of course that this
option is given in the retail version.


"Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:0106E2DE-E959-421A-8BDE-607AAFADA87C@microsoft.com...
> The best thing to do for the RTM release is to do a clean install. MS can
> make no guarantees as to if the upgrade from RC2 to RTM.
> --
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
> Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester
>
>
>
> "Tim Scott Mathews" wrote:
>
>> I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month ago)
>> version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of the
>> mail program to work.
>>
>> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or whatever
>> the
>> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
>> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway,
>> without
>> a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my mail
>> and
>> settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail program
>> under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure but I
>> thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the program
>> wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any way to
>> simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>>
>> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was looking
>> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some other
>> minor
>> features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it
>> going
>> to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will be a
>> complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will
>> those
>> files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>>
>> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether
>> this
>> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external hard
>> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully, the
>> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>>
>>
>>



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Old 11-14-2006   #4 (permalink)
mik


 
 

RE: Upgrade or fresh install

fresh install ALWAYS!
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Old 11-14-2006   #5 (permalink)
Steve Cochran


 
 

Re: Upgrade or fresh install

Okay, first, OE does not use PST files. Those are from Outlook. To backup
OE data see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#6

Their is a File | Import | Messages option that will allow for importing
from OE6. This may be done automatically if you upgrade (I don't know), or
you can do it manually.

Its a bit early to tell what problems will be encountered, since we don't
have the final yet.

steve

"Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:4If6h.9204$C94.6048@edtnps82...
> Sorry, you misunderstood. I'm done with betas and just thinking ahead to
> January or whenever the finished retail version is available. I'm hoping
> to make the install go as smoothly as possible. The beta has been romoved
> from my system and I did a reformat of my hard drive so my system is now
> back to it's Windows XP life and I'm wondering if I might run into the
> same problem again thus, I'd choose install over upgrade--assuming of
> course that this option is given in the retail version.
>
>
> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:0106E2DE-E959-421A-8BDE-607AAFADA87C@microsoft.com...
>> The best thing to do for the RTM release is to do a clean install. MS can
>> make no guarantees as to if the upgrade from RC2 to RTM.
>> --
>> Tom Ziegmann
>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
>> Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tim Scott Mathews" wrote:
>>
>>> I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month ago)
>>> version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of
>>> the
>>> mail program to work.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or whatever
>>> the
>>> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
>>> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway,
>>> without
>>> a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my mail
>>> and
>>> settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail
>>> program
>>> under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure but I
>>> thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the
>>> program
>>> wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any way to
>>> simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>>>
>>> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was looking
>>> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some other
>>> minor
>>> features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it
>>> going
>>> to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will be
>>> a
>>> complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will
>>> those
>>> files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>>>
>>> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether
>>> this
>>> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external
>>> hard
>>> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully, the
>>> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>


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Old 11-14-2006   #6 (permalink)
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM


 
 

Re: Upgrade or fresh install

"Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:NC%5h.7871$C94.1921@edtnps82...
>I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month ago)
>version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of the
>mail program to work.
>
> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or whatever the
> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway,
> without a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my
> mail and settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail
> program under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure
> but I thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the
> program wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any
> way to simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>
> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was looking
> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some other
> minor features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it
> going to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will
> be a complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will
> those files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>
> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether this
> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>
> Tim
>
> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external hard
> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully, the
> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>


Assuming that you do mean Outlook and not Outlook Express, Windows Mail will
probably not import unless Outlook is installed and using that PST file as
its default.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.


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Old 11-18-2006   #7 (permalink)
Tim Scott Mathews


 
 

Re: Upgrade or fresh install

I don't know why you're talking about Outlook Express. I clearly said I use
Outlook and, thus, I do have and use PST files.

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:EF1C5DAC-C7F6-4FA4-AFF1-05B4E008F8E6@microsoft.com...
> Okay, first, OE does not use PST files. Those are from Outlook. To
> backup OE data see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#6
>
> Their is a File | Import | Messages option that will allow for importing
> from OE6. This may be done automatically if you upgrade (I don't know),
> or you can do it manually.
>
> Its a bit early to tell what problems will be encountered, since we don't
> have the final yet.
>
> steve
>
> "Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:4If6h.9204$C94.6048@edtnps82...
>> Sorry, you misunderstood. I'm done with betas and just thinking ahead to
>> January or whenever the finished retail version is available. I'm hoping
>> to make the install go as smoothly as possible. The beta has been
>> romoved from my system and I did a reformat of my hard drive so my system
>> is now back to it's Windows XP life and I'm wondering if I might run into
>> the same problem again thus, I'd choose install over upgrade--assuming of
>> course that this option is given in the retail version.
>>
>>
>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:0106E2DE-E959-421A-8BDE-607AAFADA87C@microsoft.com...
>>> The best thing to do for the RTM release is to do a clean install. MS
>>> can
>>> make no guarantees as to if the upgrade from RC2 to RTM.
>>> --
>>> Tom Ziegmann
>>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
>>> Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tim Scott Mathews" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month ago)
>>>> version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of
>>>> the
>>>> mail program to work.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or whatever
>>>> the
>>>> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
>>>> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway,
>>>> without
>>>> a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my mail
>>>> and
>>>> settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail
>>>> program
>>>> under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure but
>>>> I
>>>> thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the
>>>> program
>>>> wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any way
>>>> to
>>>> simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>>>>
>>>> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was looking
>>>> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some other
>>>> minor
>>>> features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it
>>>> going
>>>> to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will be
>>>> a
>>>> complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will
>>>> those
>>>> files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>>>>
>>>> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether
>>>> this
>>>> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external
>>>> hard
>>>> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully, the
>>>> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>

>



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Old 11-18-2006   #8 (permalink)
Steve Cochran


 
 

Re: Upgrade or fresh install

Sorry, I must've missed that. The behavior in the past was that OE could
only import from Outlook if Outlook is installed. I think its the same with
WinMail, so you would need more than just the pst file.

steve

"Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:nSB7h.11866$gy2.8409@edtnps90...
>I don't know why you're talking about Outlook Express. I clearly said I
>use Outlook and, thus, I do have and use PST files.
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:EF1C5DAC-C7F6-4FA4-AFF1-05B4E008F8E6@microsoft.com...
>> Okay, first, OE does not use PST files. Those are from Outlook. To
>> backup OE data see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#6
>>
>> Their is a File | Import | Messages option that will allow for importing
>> from OE6. This may be done automatically if you upgrade (I don't know),
>> or you can do it manually.
>>
>> Its a bit early to tell what problems will be encountered, since we don't
>> have the final yet.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4If6h.9204$C94.6048@edtnps82...
>>> Sorry, you misunderstood. I'm done with betas and just thinking ahead
>>> to January or whenever the finished retail version is available. I'm
>>> hoping to make the install go as smoothly as possible. The beta has
>>> been romoved from my system and I did a reformat of my hard drive so my
>>> system is now back to it's Windows XP life and I'm wondering if I might
>>> run into the same problem again thus, I'd choose install over
>>> upgrade--assuming of course that this option is given in the retail
>>> version.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0106E2DE-E959-421A-8BDE-607AAFADA87C@microsoft.com...
>>>> The best thing to do for the RTM release is to do a clean install. MS
>>>> can
>>>> make no guarantees as to if the upgrade from RC2 to RTM.
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Ziegmann
>>>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>>>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
>>>> Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tim Scott Mathews" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month ago)
>>>>> version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of
>>>>> the
>>>>> mail program to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or whatever
>>>>> the
>>>>> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
>>>>> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway,
>>>>> without
>>>>> a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my
>>>>> mail and
>>>>> settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail
>>>>> program
>>>>> under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure but
>>>>> I
>>>>> thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the
>>>>> program
>>>>> wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any way
>>>>> to
>>>>> simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was looking
>>>>> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some other
>>>>> minor
>>>>> features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it
>>>>> going
>>>>> to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will
>>>>> be a
>>>>> complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will
>>>>> those
>>>>> files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether
>>>>> this
>>>>> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external
>>>>> hard
>>>>> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully,
>>>>> the
>>>>> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-18-2006   #9 (permalink)
Tim Scott Mathews


 
 

Re: Upgrade or fresh install

I was afraid of that. I guess the best/easiest thing for me would be to
import the Outlook goodies into Outlook Express and then take them from OE
into Windows Mail.


"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:9749333F-D729-4B9C-B457-D34F546B200E@microsoft.com...
> Sorry, I must've missed that. The behavior in the past was that OE could
> only import from Outlook if Outlook is installed. I think its the same
> with WinMail, so you would need more than just the pst file.
>
> steve
>
> "Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:nSB7h.11866$gy2.8409@edtnps90...
>>I don't know why you're talking about Outlook Express. I clearly said I
>>use Outlook and, thus, I do have and use PST files.
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:EF1C5DAC-C7F6-4FA4-AFF1-05B4E008F8E6@microsoft.com...
>>> Okay, first, OE does not use PST files. Those are from Outlook. To
>>> backup OE data see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#6
>>>
>>> Their is a File | Import | Messages option that will allow for importing
>>> from OE6. This may be done automatically if you upgrade (I don't know),
>>> or you can do it manually.
>>>
>>> Its a bit early to tell what problems will be encountered, since we
>>> don't have the final yet.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4If6h.9204$C94.6048@edtnps82...
>>>> Sorry, you misunderstood. I'm done with betas and just thinking ahead
>>>> to January or whenever the finished retail version is available. I'm
>>>> hoping to make the install go as smoothly as possible. The beta has
>>>> been romoved from my system and I did a reformat of my hard drive so my
>>>> system is now back to it's Windows XP life and I'm wondering if I might
>>>> run into the same problem again thus, I'd choose install over
>>>> upgrade--assuming of course that this option is given in the retail
>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:0106E2DE-E959-421A-8BDE-607AAFADA87C@microsoft.com...
>>>>> The best thing to do for the RTM release is to do a clean install. MS
>>>>> can
>>>>> make no guarantees as to if the upgrade from RC2 to RTM.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tom Ziegmann
>>>>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>>>>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
>>>>> Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tim Scott Mathews" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month
>>>>>> ago)
>>>>>> version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mail program to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or
>>>>>> whatever the
>>>>>> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
>>>>>> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway,
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my
>>>>>> mail and
>>>>>> settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure
>>>>>> but I
>>>>>> thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any way
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some
>>>>>> other minor
>>>>>> features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will
>>>>>> be a
>>>>>> complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure whether
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-20-2006   #10 (permalink)
Steve Cochran


 
 

Re: Upgrade or fresh install

Yup.

steve

"Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:z2O7h.11978$gy2.7941@edtnps90...
>I was afraid of that. I guess the best/easiest thing for me would be to
>import the Outlook goodies into Outlook Express and then take them from OE
>into Windows Mail.
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:9749333F-D729-4B9C-B457-D34F546B200E@microsoft.com...
>> Sorry, I must've missed that. The behavior in the past was that OE could
>> only import from Outlook if Outlook is installed. I think its the same
>> with WinMail, so you would need more than just the pst file.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
>> news:nSB7h.11866$gy2.8409@edtnps90...
>>>I don't know why you're talking about Outlook Express. I clearly said I
>>>use Outlook and, thus, I do have and use PST files.
>>>
>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>> news:EF1C5DAC-C7F6-4FA4-AFF1-05B4E008F8E6@microsoft.com...
>>>> Okay, first, OE does not use PST files. Those are from Outlook. To
>>>> backup OE data see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#6
>>>>
>>>> Their is a File | Import | Messages option that will allow for
>>>> importing from OE6. This may be done automatically if you upgrade (I
>>>> don't know), or you can do it manually.
>>>>
>>>> Its a bit early to tell what problems will be encountered, since we
>>>> don't have the final yet.
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>> "Tim Scott Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:4If6h.9204$C94.6048@edtnps82...
>>>>> Sorry, you misunderstood. I'm done with betas and just thinking ahead
>>>>> to January or whenever the finished retail version is available. I'm
>>>>> hoping to make the install go as smoothly as possible. The beta has
>>>>> been romoved from my system and I did a reformat of my hard drive so
>>>>> my system is now back to it's Windows XP life and I'm wondering if I
>>>>> might run into the same problem again thus, I'd choose install over
>>>>> upgrade--assuming of course that this option is given in the retail
>>>>> version.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:0106E2DE-E959-421A-8BDE-607AAFADA87C@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> The best thing to do for the RTM release is to do a clean install. MS
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> make no guarantees as to if the upgrade from RC2 to RTM.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tom Ziegmann
>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>>>>>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
>>>>>> Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tim Scott Mathews" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tested the RC1 (I think--it was the last one from about a month
>>>>>>> ago)
>>>>>>> version of Vista and liked what I saw EXCEPT for the total failure
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> mail program to work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps it is because I was testing it using the "upgrade" or
>>>>>>> whatever the
>>>>>>> prompt was--I didn't want to install over my current Windows XP but,
>>>>>>> instead, to have a dual boot system so I could test things. Anyway,
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> a prompt or any input from me, Windows Mail attempted to import my
>>>>>>> mail and
>>>>>>> settings from Outlook (I'm assuming as Outlook is my primary mail
>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>> under XP) but failed, as the prompts were pretty fast I'm not sure
>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>> thought it was during the contact import phase. At any rate, the
>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>> wouldn't install/run as the import failed and I couldn't find any
>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>> simply open and/or run Windows Mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm one of those who, based on the pre release information was
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>> forward to Windows mail for both the file system as well as some
>>>>>>> other minor
>>>>>>> features. My concern is, when the final release is available, is it
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to look for previous mail programs on my system or, (since this will
>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>> complete install OVER the old OS rather than in addition to it) will
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> files be destroyed during a reformat etc as Vista installs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope that's clear and I'm posting correctly as I'm not sure
>>>>>>> whether this
>>>>>>> is better in Vista general or Windows Mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS My thinking is to simply save the Outlook PST file to my external
>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>> drive and then--hopefully--import at least the data and, hopefully,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> settings after Windows Mail is installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

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