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12-21-2006
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| | Re: Mark All as Read I would strongly disagree. The messages are stored as individual files, but that should have no bearing on whether they are marked as read or not. First of all, if you just download the NG headers, you still have slow performance even if the messages are not downloaded. Second, the marked read bit is in the database and not the message files, so that again should not involved any access of those files. This feature was always slow in OE with large numbers of messages in a NG. The performance decreases one is experiencing in WinMail are no doubt related to the database and its design and the inherent difficulties with keeping a large number of entries in a database. steve "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%235L1ER%23IHHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Well, I was having same issue until I've upgraded from WEI 1.x to 5.5+ > (including RAID0 system volume using SATA2 8MB cache NCQ disks). The > problem (?) seems to be related to new storage scheme (one file per > message instead of single database file per "folder" in OE) so probably > you can expect delays with high number of messages stored on mediocre/slow > HDDs. I was reading somewhere that MS was based it's hw reqs planning for > Vista on rather optimistic predictions so there you go... Chasing Moore's > Law, eh?.. :-) > > > -- > Alexander Suhovey > > P.S. > WEI = Windows Experience Index > > > "Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message > news:Of5V9i4IHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Is it just my system or does using Mark All as Read take an >> awfully long time in Windows Mail? In XP, Outlook Express marks >> all messages as read almost instantaneously. Windows Mail takes >> twenty to thirty seconds to mark just two or three messages! >> >> Tom Lake >> > |
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12-21-2006
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| | Re: Mark All as Read Thanks for explaining. What I said about performance issues corellation with storage scheme was just guessing. -- Alexander Suhovey "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:66CB91B1-BE98-4673-B0B6-63371DD66119@microsoft.com... >I would strongly disagree. The messages are stored as individual files, >but that should have no bearing on whether they are marked as read or not. >First of all, if you just download the NG headers, you still have slow >performance even if the messages are not downloaded. Second, the marked >read bit is in the database and not the message files, so that again should >not involved any access of those files. > > This feature was always slow in OE with large numbers of messages in a NG. > The performance decreases one is experiencing in WinMail are no doubt > related to the database and its design and the inherent difficulties with > keeping a large number of entries in a database. > > steve > > "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%235L1ER%23IHHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Well, I was having same issue until I've upgraded from WEI 1.x to 5.5+ >> (including RAID0 system volume using SATA2 8MB cache NCQ disks). The >> problem (?) seems to be related to new storage scheme (one file per >> message instead of single database file per "folder" in OE) so probably >> you can expect delays with high number of messages stored on >> mediocre/slow HDDs. I was reading somewhere that MS was based it's hw >> reqs planning for Vista on rather optimistic predictions so there you >> go... Chasing Moore's Law, eh?.. :-) >> >> >> -- >> Alexander Suhovey >> >> P.S. >> WEI = Windows Experience Index >> >> >> "Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:Of5V9i4IHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Is it just my system or does using Mark All as Read take an >>> awfully long time in Windows Mail? In XP, Outlook Express marks >>> all messages as read almost instantaneously. Windows Mail takes >>> twenty to thirty seconds to mark just two or three messages! >>> >>> Tom Lake >>> >> > |
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12-22-2006
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| | Re: Mark All as Read I just wanted to clarify, as others are slamming the new message store format and blaming everything on it, and it is not the problem in this circumstance. cheers, steve "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:FDB5125A-E7E0-458B-B3ED-A35D1C2EED4A@microsoft.com... > Thanks for explaining. What I said about performance issues corellation > with storage scheme was just guessing. > > -- > Alexander Suhovey > > "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message > news:66CB91B1-BE98-4673-B0B6-63371DD66119@microsoft.com... >>I would strongly disagree. The messages are stored as individual files, >>but that should have no bearing on whether they are marked as read or not. >>First of all, if you just download the NG headers, you still have slow >>performance even if the messages are not downloaded. Second, the marked >>read bit is in the database and not the message files, so that again >>should not involved any access of those files. >> >> This feature was always slow in OE with large numbers of messages in a >> NG. The performance decreases one is experiencing in WinMail are no doubt >> related to the database and its design and the inherent difficulties with >> keeping a large number of entries in a database. >> >> steve >> >> "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%235L1ER%23IHHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Well, I was having same issue until I've upgraded from WEI 1.x to 5.5+ >>> (including RAID0 system volume using SATA2 8MB cache NCQ disks). The >>> problem (?) seems to be related to new storage scheme (one file per >>> message instead of single database file per "folder" in OE) so probably >>> you can expect delays with high number of messages stored on >>> mediocre/slow HDDs. I was reading somewhere that MS was based it's hw >>> reqs planning for Vista on rather optimistic predictions so there you >>> go... Chasing Moore's Law, eh?.. :-) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alexander Suhovey >>> >>> P.S. >>> WEI = Windows Experience Index >>> >>> >>> "Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:Of5V9i4IHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Is it just my system or does using Mark All as Read take an >>>> awfully long time in Windows Mail? In XP, Outlook Express marks >>>> all messages as read almost instantaneously. Windows Mail takes >>>> twenty to thirty seconds to mark just two or three messages! >>>> >>>> Tom Lake >>>> >>> >> > |
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12-22-2006
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| | Re: Mark All as Read Don't seem to have issues here, like it way better than outlook, not takin a performance hit usin it at all workin fine Jeff "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:7FF16AE0-E5BE-48B8-BDB4-D8D33C1FCB2B@microsoft.com... >I just wanted to clarify, as others are slamming the new message store >format and blaming everything on it, and it is not the problem in this >circumstance. > > cheers, > > steve > > "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:FDB5125A-E7E0-458B-B3ED-A35D1C2EED4A@microsoft.com... >> Thanks for explaining. What I said about performance issues corellation >> with storage scheme was just guessing. >> >> -- >> Alexander Suhovey >> >> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message >> news:66CB91B1-BE98-4673-B0B6-63371DD66119@microsoft.com... >>>I would strongly disagree. The messages are stored as individual files, >>>but that should have no bearing on whether they are marked as read or >>>not. First of all, if you just download the NG headers, you still have >>>slow performance even if the messages are not downloaded. Second, the >>>marked read bit is in the database and not the message files, so that >>>again should not involved any access of those files. >>> >>> This feature was always slow in OE with large numbers of messages in a >>> NG. The performance decreases one is experiencing in WinMail are no >>> doubt related to the database and its design and the inherent >>> difficulties with keeping a large number of entries in a database. >>> >>> steve >>> >>> "Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%235L1ER%23IHHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Well, I was having same issue until I've upgraded from WEI 1.x to 5.5+ >>>> (including RAID0 system volume using SATA2 8MB cache NCQ disks). The >>>> problem (?) seems to be related to new storage scheme (one file per >>>> message instead of single database file per "folder" in OE) so probably >>>> you can expect delays with high number of messages stored on >>>> mediocre/slow HDDs. I was reading somewhere that MS was based it's hw >>>> reqs planning for Vista on rather optimistic predictions so there you >>>> go... Chasing Moore's Law, eh?.. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alexander Suhovey >>>> >>>> P.S. >>>> WEI = Windows Experience Index >>>> >>>> >>>> "Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Of5V9i4IHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Is it just my system or does using Mark All as Read take an >>>>> awfully long time in Windows Mail? In XP, Outlook Express marks >>>>> all messages as read almost instantaneously. Windows Mail takes >>>>> twenty to thirty seconds to mark just two or three messages! >>>>> >>>>> Tom Lake >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
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