Vista - POP3 SPA authentication

Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my POP3
server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in a few
locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was the
issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA working
on Vista?

"Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my POP3
> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in a
> few
> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was the
> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
> working
> on Vista?

Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

I'd agree with Frank. I've never seen a Verizon user who needed SPA. And
your IP address indicates you have a Verizon account that you post from.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my POP3
>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in a
>> few
>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was the
>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>> working
>> on Vista?
>
> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>
>

Yes Frank, I am sure it uses SPA. I still have an older system running
Windows XP and Office 2003, I have confirmed that the settings are correct
in my Vista install (tried Outlook 2003 on Vista and Outlook 2007) same
issue with both versions of Office. I work fine with Windows XP, but
nothing works with Vista. Any other help?
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my POP3
>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in a
>> few
>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was the
>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>> working
>> on Vista?
>
> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>
>

I am using Verizon as my ISP, but still maintain a MSN email (I need dial up
a few times a year when I travel and never bothered migrating from MSN,so I
maintain dial-up through them.) as I said in my post to Frank, MSN does
require SPA. There are several reasons why I do not want to change my
primary email from MSN to use Verizon or any of the free solutions. Any
other help?

"Jim Pickering" <jimp (AT) mvps.org> wrote in message
news:50B16A1E-B7C1-49EB-BBD7-A0A25A9CD764@microsoft.com...
> I'd agree with Frank. I've never seen a Verizon user who needed SPA. And
> your IP address indicates you have a Verizon account that you post from.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
> Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.
>
>
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
>> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my POP3
>>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in a
>>> few
>>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was the
>>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>>> working
>>> on Vista?
>>
>> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>>
>>
>

See if this MSN webcast helps identity any problem areas:

Support WebCast: What to Do If You Cannot Receive Your MSN E-mail in Outlook
or Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325232

--
Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.


"Lori Olsen" <lasolsen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23iB6qldLHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I am using Verizon as my ISP, but still maintain a MSN email (I need dial
>up a few times a year when I travel and never bothered migrating from
>MSN,so I maintain dial-up through them.) as I said in my post to Frank, MSN
>does require SPA. There are several reasons why I do not want to change my
>primary email from MSN to use Verizon or any of the free solutions. Any
>other help?
>
> "Jim Pickering" <jimp (AT) mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:50B16A1E-B7C1-49EB-BBD7-A0A25A9CD764@microsoft.com...
>> I'd agree with Frank. I've never seen a Verizon user who needed SPA.
>> And your IP address indicates you have a Verizon account that you post
>> from.
>> --
>> Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
>> Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
>>> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>>>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my
>>>> POP3
>>>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in
>>>> a few
>>>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was
>>>> the
>>>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>>>> working
>>>> on Vista?
>>>
>>> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>>> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>>> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Authentication fails when you use Outlook or Outlook Express to try to log
on to a HTTP-based mail server if you use Internet Explorer version 7.0:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/904942

"Lori Olsen" <lasolsen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:eqeQsjdLHHA.780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Yes Frank, I am sure it uses SPA. I still have an older system running
> Windows XP and Office 2003, I have confirmed that the settings are correct
> in my Vista install (tried Outlook 2003 on Vista and Outlook 2007) same
> issue with both versions of Office. I work fine with Windows XP, but
> nothing works with Vista. Any other help?
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
>> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my POP3
>>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in a
>>> few
>>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was the
>>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>>> working
>>> on Vista?
>>
>> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?

Using POP3 not HTTP, please see the origional subject line of the post.
MSN supports POP3 with SPA authentication in addition to HTTP. The issue is
POP3 SPA authentication on Vista. The same configuration works just fine on
Windows XP, I am sure the firewall is configured correctly, have tried
disabling anti-virus to see if that resolved but no luck. Same results
using Outlook 2003 or Outlook 2007, have also tried Windows Mail on Vista
and have the same issue. Any other help?
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:EA6C9A36-C3E6-41D4-9F60-7757B82407D7@microsoft.com...
> Authentication fails when you use Outlook or Outlook Express to try to log
> on to a HTTP-based mail server if you use Internet Explorer version 7.0:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/904942
>
> "Lori Olsen" <lasolsen@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:eqeQsjdLHHA.780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Yes Frank, I am sure it uses SPA. I still have an older system running
>> Windows XP and Office 2003, I have confirmed that the settings are
>> correct in my Vista install (tried Outlook 2003 on Vista and Outlook
>> 2007) same issue with both versions of Office. I work fine with Windows
>> XP, but nothing works with Vista. Any other help?
>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
>>> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>>>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my
>>>> POP3
>>>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in
>>>> a few
>>>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was
>>>> the
>>>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>>>> working
>>>> on Vista?
>>>
>>> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?
>

Jim, thanks for trying but no luck. This is a different problem, I cannot
send mail (the SMTP server requires authentication before it will send) or
receive mail as the POP3 with SPA authentication keeps failing. The
configuration in the email client is correct, I have double and tripple
checked it and compared it to a working install on Windows XP. It does not
matter if I use Outlook 2003, Outlook 2007 or Windows Mail on the Vista
system.

"Jim Pickering" <jimp (AT) mvps.org> wrote in message
news:25D57F5B-8734-4662-AC1A-CB401C09C2C8@microsoft.com...
> See if this MSN webcast helps identity any problem areas:
>
> Support WebCast: What to Do If You Cannot Receive Your MSN E-mail in
> Outlook or Outlook Express:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325232
>
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
> Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.
>
>
> "Lori Olsen" <lasolsen@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23iB6qldLHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I am using Verizon as my ISP, but still maintain a MSN email (I need dial
>>up a few times a year when I travel and never bothered migrating from
>>MSN,so I maintain dial-up through them.) as I said in my post to Frank,
>>MSN does require SPA. There are several reasons why I do not want to
>>change my primary email from MSN to use Verizon or any of the free
>>solutions. Any other help?
>>
>> "Jim Pickering" <jimp (AT) mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:50B16A1E-B7C1-49EB-BBD7-A0A25A9CD764@microsoft.com...
>>> I'd agree with Frank. I've never seen a Verizon user who needed SPA.
>>> And your IP address indicates you have a Verizon account that you post
>>> from.
>>> --
>>> Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
>>> Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
>>>> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my
>>>>> POP3
>>>>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue in
>>>>> a few
>>>>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was
>>>>> the
>>>>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>>>>> working
>>>>> on Vista?
>>>>
>>>> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>>>> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>>>> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

All I can then suggest is to open a Support ticket with MSN Help, and based
on past experience, I've not found them very helpful; which is why I've not
used any mail service from MSN for the past 7-8 years.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.


"Lori Olsen" <lasolsen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%238E$kxeLHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Jim, thanks for trying but no luck. This is a different problem, I cannot
> send mail (the SMTP server requires authentication before it will send) or
> receive mail as the POP3 with SPA authentication keeps failing. The
> configuration in the email client is correct, I have double and tripple
> checked it and compared it to a working install on Windows XP. It does
> not matter if I use Outlook 2003, Outlook 2007 or Windows Mail on the
> Vista system.
>
> "Jim Pickering" <jimp (AT) mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:25D57F5B-8734-4662-AC1A-CB401C09C2C8@microsoft.com...
>> See if this MSN webcast helps identity any problem areas:
>>
>> Support WebCast: What to Do If You Cannot Receive Your MSN E-mail in
>> Outlook or Outlook Express:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325232
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
>> Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> "Lori Olsen" <lasolsen@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23iB6qldLHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I am using Verizon as my ISP, but still maintain a MSN email (I need dial
>>>up a few times a year when I travel and never bothered migrating from
>>>MSN,so I maintain dial-up through them.) as I said in my post to Frank,
>>>MSN does require SPA. There are several reasons why I do not want to
>>>change my primary email from MSN to use Verizon or any of the free
>>>solutions. Any other help?
>>>
>>> "Jim Pickering" <jimp (AT) mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:50B16A1E-B7C1-49EB-BBD7-A0A25A9CD764@microsoft.com...
>>>> I'd agree with Frank. I've never seen a Verizon user who needed SPA.
>>>> And your IP address indicates you have a Verizon account that you post
>>>> from.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
>>>> Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:FDD1F604-79A1-433E-8274-CF884EEAAC05@microsoft.com...
>>>>> "Lori Olsen" <Lori Olsen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9A8AC24A-0A57-4199-98F1-29B9DC651FAF@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Since installing Vista RC, I have been unable to authenticate to my
>>>>>> POP3
>>>>>> server using SPA. I have seen several other posts about this issue
>>>>>> in a few
>>>>>> locations but no real fix. I have seen a few fixes if just POP3 was
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> issue but not POP3 using SPA. Has anyone been able to get POP3 SPA
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> on Vista?
>>>>>
>>>>> Very few POP3 servers use SPA. Are you sure yours does?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>>>>> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>>>>> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>