Desktop Live Mail Nukes File Associations for OE NG messages

I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.

I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4

for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of Win
Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because it takes
way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.

I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to open
a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save them and
classify them, I get a message that there is no File association for opening
it. The message is the familiar "Windows cannot open this file. To open
this file Windows needs to know what program created it. The message is a
NWS file. I tried to create the association by adding it to Folder Options
and then right clicking and using the open with dialogue box but I had no
luck.

I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up with
the message there is no file association --and that does not work and the
reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse for it. I
cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change the file
association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going to the folders
where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message store is

C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express

and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP and
Vista where .dbx messages are stored.

System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points have
been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I installed
Desktop Live.

I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude of
fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe site, but
I don't see anything that directly applies there.

It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
association I need to open these messages when they are not on the newsgroup
list but removed to be stored in a folder.

Any help greatly appreciated.

CH

I found I can open up each message by associating a program like Wordpad to
it (which won't show the hyperlinks as hyperlinks or Word) but it's time
consuiming to have to find a file association every time I want to open a
newsgroup message that has been dragged out of the OE or Win Mail interface,
so I'm trying to find the way to repair this.

Thanks,

CH

"Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>
> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>
> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of Win
> Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because it
> takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>
> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save
> them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File association
> for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows cannot open this
> file. To open this file Windows needs to know what program created it.
> The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the association by adding it
> to Folder Options and then right clicking and using the open with dialogue
> box but I had no luck.
>
> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work and
> the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse for
> it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change the
> file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going to the
> folders where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message store is
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
> Express
>
> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP and
> Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>
> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points have
> been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I
> installed Desktop Live.
>
> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude of
> fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe site,
> but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>
> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> CH
>

This is totally confusing. How did you uninstall WinMail? It is part of
Vista and cannot be uninstalled.

If you have a machine with Outlook Express on it (e.g. XP) then you cannot
have WInMail on it, as WinMail only exists in Vista. Similarly, you cannot
install OE on a machine that is running Vista. So I have no idea what you
mean.

NWS files in XP are opened with OE and in Vista are opened with WinMail by
default.

steve

"Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>
> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>
> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of Win
> Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because it
> takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>
> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save
> them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File association
> for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows cannot open this
> file. To open this file Windows needs to know what program created it.
> The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the association by adding it
> to Folder Options and then right clicking and using the open with dialogue
> box but I had no luck.
>
> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work and
> the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse for
> it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change the
> file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going to the
> folders where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message store is
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
> Express
>
> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP and
> Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>
> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points have
> been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I
> installed Desktop Live.
>
> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude of
> fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe site,
> but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>
> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> CH
>

Steve--

I'll try to make this clearer. I absolutely did not uninstall Win Mail. I
thought I made it clear, but I'm appreciative of help from an OE/Win Mail
expert and I'll try to lay this out in clearer terms. I know there is a way
to fix my problem, but I'm sure having trouble doing it. What's confusing
you is that this is taking place in OE on XP and Win Mail on Vista.

Win Mail was working fine. It still works fine. OE was working fine, and
it still works fine. But take your post or my posts in this thread as an
example. We can drag them out onto the desktop or into a folder, and save
them as little envelop icons in OE, or whatever the little icon is in Win
Mail.

I've had every build of Vista since July 2005, to RTM and drilled it pretty
thorougly, so I'm aware of OE in XP and Win Mail in Vista. I apologize that
I didn't make this clear to you.

For simplicity sake, let's confine this to the XP boot and OE--although
technically it could or should be posted on the OE group--but the same
principle is at work with Win Mail and Vista. I'm on the XP boot now (in a
dual boot that has worked very well for me for the last year and a half.)

Here's what happened Steve:

1) A public Beta started a while back (far enough that I don't have a
restore point to use to try to fix this--whether it would or not I don't
know) that I linked and will link again and this was for a different kind of
mail--Windows Live Desktop Mail. The link for it is here:
http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4

2) After I downloaded Windows Live Desktop Mail a few weeks ago, it took
over the file association for OE on XP and for Win Mail on Vista.

Please keep in mind this has nothing to do with the functioning of OE/Win
Mail when you type msimn in or open up OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista.

My problem is happening only with the newsgroup posts that I have dragged
out of OE and put into folders--I'm going to stick with OE in XP on this
now.

We're talking about a good number of these that I use for reference either
to remind myself of something or use a link or to help out in the groups.

So again, there is no problem opening up a message either mailed or a
newsgroup post within OE. It's the ones that I drag out of the newsgroup to
save for easy retrieval that now won't open up. These NWS messages *were
opening up as Windows Desktop Live Messages (and if you havenpt used
it--it'll take over your file associations for those OE or Win Mail messages
that you drag out of the OE/Win Mail interface.

The problem I had with this is they took forever to open up. It had nothing
to do with cpu or spyware or any other of the many causes for slowness.
Nothing else was slow. But Windows Desktoo Live Mail opens up too slowly
for me. So I uninstalled it from Add/Remove. Again this is not OE or Win
Mail. This is a totally different mail client from MSFT --i.e. from MSN
Live.

I would have never downloaded it and installed it had I known it would take
over the file associations ***for those newsgroup messages that I dragged
outside of the OE interface to save (in folders with categories I assigned
by naming the folders).

I uninstalled Windows Desktop Live Mail from Add/Remove uneventfully. Now
when I try to open up any of the newsgroup messages that I have dragged out
of OE into folders--I get the dialogue box that the NWS message does not
have a file associated with it to open it up.

I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't find
it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box, and I
cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association back--I've
tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the known places
where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for me. Maybe I'm
missing some place.

Again, again I have no problem opening up the messages with OE--its those
messages I've dragged outside onto the desktop. So I can take your response
to me and open it up fine inside OE. It's when I drag it onto the desktop
that the problem starts, and I need to drag messages into folders that I
want to save because at some point they are going to be off the server.
Sure I could copy them into an OE email or another client, but that's time
consuming. Dragging email messages I wanted to save worked great until
Windows Desktop Live took over the file association and they began opening
slowly as Desktop Live Mail messages, and then I uninstalled it and
afterward they wouldn't open.

I have a way to open them, but it's not the one I want. I can open them
with wordpad, and I'm sure I can open them with notepad or Word if I wanted
to associate that. I simply used wordpad with the dialogue box that asked me
what I wanted to open with since no NWS file was avilable.

I added a NWS file to the "File types" tab list (reached by typing control
folders into the run box or via the toolbar in a folder (same thing), but
it does not show up in the what do you want to open with dialogue box that I
have to work with now when I want to open one of these guys up.

So again, I need help trying to restore the file association not to any
messages within OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista--but to those messages from OE
that I have chosen to drag out of the OE list to save.

Thanks much for any help with this. Let me know if I'm not clear now, and
next time I'll do it with screenshots. I know that one of you guys who have
been OE experts for years can figure out a way.

CH






"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:6A2FB256-2F1A-4467-A3FC-B59FA6E60CFA@microsoft.com...
> This is totally confusing. How did you uninstall WinMail? It is part of
> Vista and cannot be uninstalled.
>
> If you have a machine with Outlook Express on it (e.g. XP) then you cannot
> have WInMail on it, as WinMail only exists in Vista. Similarly, you
> cannot install OE on a machine that is running Vista. So I have no idea
> what you mean.
>
> NWS files in XP are opened with OE and in Vista are opened with WinMail by
> default.
>
> steve
>
> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
> news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>>
>> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>
>> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of Win
>> Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because it
>> takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>>
>> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
>> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
>> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save
>> them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File association
>> for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows cannot open this
>> file. To open this file Windows needs to know what program created it.
>> The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the association by adding
>> it to Folder Options and then right clicking and using the open with
>> dialogue box but I had no luck.
>>
>> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
>> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work
>> and the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse
>> for it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change
>> the file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going to
>> the folders where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message store
>> is
>>
>> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
>> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
>> Express
>>
>> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP and
>> Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>>
>> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points have
>> been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I
>> installed Desktop Live.
>>
>> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude of
>> fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe site,
>> but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>>
>> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
>> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
>> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>>
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>
>> CH
>>
>

>I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
>find
it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box, and I
cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association back--I've
tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the known places
where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for me. Maybe I'm
missing some place.

If you go to Open With for a nws file in either XP or Vista, there is a
Browse button to select the program. In XP the program is OE (c:\program
files\msimn.exe) and in Vista, the program is WinMail (c:\program
files\windows mail). Can you not set those as the programs to open the nws
files? Furthermore, if you go to Control Panel | Programs | Set Program
access and defaults in XP and make OE default, that should fix it (it might
not) or in Vista going to Control Panel | Default program and making WinMail
there default.

That's what I don't understand, now that is clear you weren't uninstalling
WinMail as you first indicated.

cheers,

steve

"Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
news:uJDKqnUOHHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Steve--
>
> I'll try to make this clearer. I absolutely did not uninstall Win Mail.
> I thought I made it clear, but I'm appreciative of help from an OE/Win
> Mail expert and I'll try to lay this out in clearer terms. I know there
> is a way to fix my problem, but I'm sure having trouble doing it. What's
> confusing you is that this is taking place in OE on XP and Win Mail on
> Vista.
>
> Win Mail was working fine. It still works fine. OE was working fine, and
> it still works fine. But take your post or my posts in this thread as an
> example. We can drag them out onto the desktop or into a folder, and save
> them as little envelop icons in OE, or whatever the little icon is in Win
> Mail.
>
> I've had every build of Vista since July 2005, to RTM and drilled it
> pretty thorougly, so I'm aware of OE in XP and Win Mail in Vista. I
> apologize that I didn't make this clear to you.
>
> For simplicity sake, let's confine this to the XP boot and OE--although
> technically it could or should be posted on the OE group--but the same
> principle is at work with Win Mail and Vista. I'm on the XP boot now (in
> a dual boot that has worked very well for me for the last year and a
> half.)
>
> Here's what happened Steve:
>
> 1) A public Beta started a while back (far enough that I don't have a
> restore point to use to try to fix this--whether it would or not I don't
> know) that I linked and will link again and this was for a different kind
> of mail--Windows Live Desktop Mail. The link for it is here:
> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>
> 2) After I downloaded Windows Live Desktop Mail a few weeks ago, it took
> over the file association for OE on XP and for Win Mail on Vista.
>
> Please keep in mind this has nothing to do with the functioning of OE/Win
> Mail when you type msimn in or open up OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista.
>
> My problem is happening only with the newsgroup posts that I have dragged
> out of OE and put into folders--I'm going to stick with OE in XP on this
> now.
>
> We're talking about a good number of these that I use for reference either
> to remind myself of something or use a link or to help out in the groups.
>
> So again, there is no problem opening up a message either mailed or a
> newsgroup post within OE. It's the ones that I drag out of the newsgroup
> to save for easy retrieval that now won't open up. These NWS messages
> *were opening up as Windows Desktop Live Messages (and if you havenpt used
> it--it'll take over your file associations for those OE or Win Mail
> messages that you drag out of the OE/Win Mail interface.
>
> The problem I had with this is they took forever to open up. It had
> nothing to do with cpu or spyware or any other of the many causes for
> slowness. Nothing else was slow. But Windows Desktoo Live Mail opens up
> too slowly for me. So I uninstalled it from Add/Remove. Again this is
> not OE or Win Mail. This is a totally different mail client from
> MSFT --i.e. from MSN Live.
>
> I would have never downloaded it and installed it had I known it would
> take over the file associations ***for those newsgroup messages that I
> dragged outside of the OE interface to save (in folders with categories I
> assigned by naming the folders).
>
> I uninstalled Windows Desktop Live Mail from Add/Remove uneventfully. Now
> when I try to open up any of the newsgroup messages that I have dragged
> out of OE into folders--I get the dialogue box that the NWS message does
> not have a file associated with it to open it up.
>
> I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
> find it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box,
> and I cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association
> back--I've tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the
> known places where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for
> me. Maybe I'm missing some place.
>
> Again, again I have no problem opening up the messages with OE--its those
> messages I've dragged outside onto the desktop. So I can take your
> response to me and open it up fine inside OE. It's when I drag it onto the
> desktop that the problem starts, and I need to drag messages into folders
> that I want to save because at some point they are going to be off the
> server. Sure I could copy them into an OE email or another client, but
> that's time consuming. Dragging email messages I wanted to save worked
> great until Windows Desktop Live took over the file association and they
> began opening slowly as Desktop Live Mail messages, and then I uninstalled
> it and afterward they wouldn't open.
>
> I have a way to open them, but it's not the one I want. I can open them
> with wordpad, and I'm sure I can open them with notepad or Word if I
> wanted to associate that. I simply used wordpad with the dialogue box that
> asked me what I wanted to open with since no NWS file was avilable.
>
> I added a NWS file to the "File types" tab list (reached by typing control
> folders into the run box or via the toolbar in a folder (same thing), but
> it does not show up in the what do you want to open with dialogue box that
> I have to work with now when I want to open one of these guys up.
>
> So again, I need help trying to restore the file association not to any
> messages within OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista--but to those messages from
> OE that I have chosen to drag out of the OE list to save.
>
> Thanks much for any help with this. Let me know if I'm not clear now, and
> next time I'll do it with screenshots. I know that one of you guys who
> have been OE experts for years can figure out a way.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:6A2FB256-2F1A-4467-A3FC-B59FA6E60CFA@microsoft.com...
>> This is totally confusing. How did you uninstall WinMail? It is part of
>> Vista and cannot be uninstalled.
>>
>> If you have a machine with Outlook Express on it (e.g. XP) then you
>> cannot have WInMail on it, as WinMail only exists in Vista. Similarly,
>> you cannot install OE on a machine that is running Vista. So I have no
>> idea what you mean.
>>
>> NWS files in XP are opened with OE and in Vista are opened with WinMail
>> by default.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
>> news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>>>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>>>
>>> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
>>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>>
>>> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of Win
>>> Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because it
>>> takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>>>
>>> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
>>> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
>>> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save
>>> them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File
>>> association for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows cannot
>>> open this file. To open this file Windows needs to know what program
>>> created it. The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the
>>> association by adding it to Folder Options and then right clicking and
>>> using the open with dialogue box but I had no luck.
>>>
>>> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
>>> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work
>>> and the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse
>>> for it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change
>>> the file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going
>>> to the folders where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message
>>> store is
>>>
>>> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
>>> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
>>> Express
>>>
>>> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP and
>>> Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>>>
>>> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points
>>> have been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I
>>> installed Desktop Live.
>>>
>>> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude of
>>> fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe site,
>>> but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>>>
>>> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
>>> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
>>> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>>>
>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>
>
>

Steve--

I appreciate every suggestion. I tried the first many times before posting,
and it simply brings up the OE interface in XP--browsing to C:\Program
Files\Outlook Express or typing in the exact path you gave me in the browse
dialogue box.

The second has no impact--making OE the default mail.

I wanted to be explicit because so often when I put up suggestions in the
groups on a thread I wonder if the person is following the instructions
correctly.

I am trying in XP to reinstall XP SP2--as a sort of uber SFC--I tried SFC as
I said and no joy, but it wouldn't reinstall and didn't spec the error on
the desktop or in Event Viewer. While there is a log, the log is per
Redmond's long standing tradition not in language I can understand.

I will probably do a repair install next and am appreciative of any
suggestions you come up with.

I know there was a pathway to the undoing of this, and reason says there is
a reverse pathway back if I could just figure it out. I suppose I could F8
and give LKG a shot--hail Mary that it is. This change was further back
than the SR point I have--that is the install of Windows Live Mail Desktop
or the uninstall.

I appreciate your time.

CH

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:73B10E0F-B13E-43E6-AD4F-AB2D088BF727@microsoft.com...
> >I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
> >find
> it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box, and I
> cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association back--I've
> tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the known places
> where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for me. Maybe I'm
> missing some place.
>
> If you go to Open With for a nws file in either XP or Vista, there is a
> Browse button to select the program. In XP the program is OE (c:\program
> files\msimn.exe) and in Vista, the program is WinMail (c:\program
> files\windows mail). Can you not set those as the programs to open the
> nws files? Furthermore, if you go to Control Panel | Programs | Set
> Program access and defaults in XP and make OE default, that should fix it
> (it might not) or in Vista going to Control Panel | Default program and
> making WinMail there default.
>
> That's what I don't understand, now that is clear you weren't uninstalling
> WinMail as you first indicated.
>
> cheers,
>
> steve
>
> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
> news:uJDKqnUOHHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Steve--
>>
>> I'll try to make this clearer. I absolutely did not uninstall Win Mail.
>> I thought I made it clear, but I'm appreciative of help from an OE/Win
>> Mail expert and I'll try to lay this out in clearer terms. I know there
>> is a way to fix my problem, but I'm sure having trouble doing it. What's
>> confusing you is that this is taking place in OE on XP and Win Mail on
>> Vista.
>>
>> Win Mail was working fine. It still works fine. OE was working fine,
>> and it still works fine. But take your post or my posts in this thread
>> as an example. We can drag them out onto the desktop or into a folder,
>> and save them as little envelop icons in OE, or whatever the little icon
>> is in Win Mail.
>>
>> I've had every build of Vista since July 2005, to RTM and drilled it
>> pretty thorougly, so I'm aware of OE in XP and Win Mail in Vista. I
>> apologize that I didn't make this clear to you.
>>
>> For simplicity sake, let's confine this to the XP boot and OE--although
>> technically it could or should be posted on the OE group--but the same
>> principle is at work with Win Mail and Vista. I'm on the XP boot now (in
>> a dual boot that has worked very well for me for the last year and a
>> half.)
>>
>> Here's what happened Steve:
>>
>> 1) A public Beta started a while back (far enough that I don't have a
>> restore point to use to try to fix this--whether it would or not I don't
>> know) that I linked and will link again and this was for a different kind
>> of mail--Windows Live Desktop Mail. The link for it is here:
>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>
>> 2) After I downloaded Windows Live Desktop Mail a few weeks ago, it took
>> over the file association for OE on XP and for Win Mail on Vista.
>>
>> Please keep in mind this has nothing to do with the functioning of OE/Win
>> Mail when you type msimn in or open up OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista.
>>
>> My problem is happening only with the newsgroup posts that I have dragged
>> out of OE and put into folders--I'm going to stick with OE in XP on this
>> now.
>>
>> We're talking about a good number of these that I use for reference
>> either to remind myself of something or use a link or to help out in the
>> groups.
>>
>> So again, there is no problem opening up a message either mailed or a
>> newsgroup post within OE. It's the ones that I drag out of the newsgroup
>> to save for easy retrieval that now won't open up. These NWS messages
>> *were opening up as Windows Desktop Live Messages (and if you havenpt
>> used it--it'll take over your file associations for those OE or Win Mail
>> messages that you drag out of the OE/Win Mail interface.
>>
>> The problem I had with this is they took forever to open up. It had
>> nothing to do with cpu or spyware or any other of the many causes for
>> slowness. Nothing else was slow. But Windows Desktoo Live Mail opens up
>> too slowly for me. So I uninstalled it from Add/Remove. Again this is
>> not OE or Win Mail. This is a totally different mail client from
>> MSFT --i.e. from MSN Live.
>>
>> I would have never downloaded it and installed it had I known it would
>> take over the file associations ***for those newsgroup messages that I
>> dragged outside of the OE interface to save (in folders with categories I
>> assigned by naming the folders).
>>
>> I uninstalled Windows Desktop Live Mail from Add/Remove uneventfully.
>> Now when I try to open up any of the newsgroup messages that I have
>> dragged out of OE into folders--I get the dialogue box that the NWS
>> message does not have a file associated with it to open it up.
>>
>> I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
>> find it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box,
>> and I cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association
>> back--I've tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the
>> known places where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for
>> me. Maybe I'm missing some place.
>>
>> Again, again I have no problem opening up the messages with OE--its those
>> messages I've dragged outside onto the desktop. So I can take your
>> response to me and open it up fine inside OE. It's when I drag it onto
>> the desktop that the problem starts, and I need to drag messages into
>> folders that I want to save because at some point they are going to be
>> off the server. Sure I could copy them into an OE email or another
>> client, but that's time consuming. Dragging email messages I wanted to
>> save worked great until Windows Desktop Live took over the file
>> association and they began opening slowly as Desktop Live Mail messages,
>> and then I uninstalled it and afterward they wouldn't open.
>>
>> I have a way to open them, but it's not the one I want. I can open them
>> with wordpad, and I'm sure I can open them with notepad or Word if I
>> wanted to associate that. I simply used wordpad with the dialogue box
>> that asked me what I wanted to open with since no NWS file was avilable.
>>
>> I added a NWS file to the "File types" tab list (reached by typing
>> control folders into the run box or via the toolbar in a folder (same
>> thing), but it does not show up in the what do you want to open with
>> dialogue box that I have to work with now when I want to open one of
>> these guys up.
>>
>> So again, I need help trying to restore the file association not to any
>> messages within OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista--but to those messages from
>> OE that I have chosen to drag out of the OE list to save.
>>
>> Thanks much for any help with this. Let me know if I'm not clear now,
>> and next time I'll do it with screenshots. I know that one of you guys
>> who have been OE experts for years can figure out a way.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:6A2FB256-2F1A-4467-A3FC-B59FA6E60CFA@microsoft.com...
>>> This is totally confusing. How did you uninstall WinMail? It is part
>>> of Vista and cannot be uninstalled.
>>>
>>> If you have a machine with Outlook Express on it (e.g. XP) then you
>>> cannot have WInMail on it, as WinMail only exists in Vista. Similarly,
>>> you cannot install OE on a machine that is running Vista. So I have no
>>> idea what you mean.
>>>
>>> NWS files in XP are opened with OE and in Vista are opened with WinMail
>>> by default.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>>>>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
>>>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>>>
>>>> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of
>>>> Win Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because
>>>> it takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>>>>
>>>> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
>>>> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
>>>> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save
>>>> them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File
>>>> association for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows
>>>> cannot open this file. To open this file Windows needs to know what
>>>> program created it. The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the
>>>> association by adding it to Folder Options and then right clicking and
>>>> using the open with dialogue box but I had no luck.
>>>>
>>>> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
>>>> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work
>>>> and the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse
>>>> for it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change
>>>> the file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going
>>>> to the folders where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message
>>>> store is
>>>>
>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
>>>> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
>>>> Express
>>>>
>>>> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP
>>>> and Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>>>>
>>>> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points
>>>> have been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I
>>>> installed Desktop Live.
>>>>
>>>> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude
>>>> of fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe
>>>> site, but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>>>>
>>>> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
>>>> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
>>>> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>>>>
>>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Should be c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe and c:\program
files\windows mail\winmail.exe.

Too early in the am.

steve

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:73B10E0F-B13E-43E6-AD4F-AB2D088BF727@microsoft.com...
> >I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
> >find
> it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box, and I
> cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association back--I've
> tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the known places
> where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for me. Maybe I'm
> missing some place.
>
> If you go to Open With for a nws file in either XP or Vista, there is a
> Browse button to select the program. In XP the program is OE (c:\program
> files\msimn.exe) and in Vista, the program is WinMail (c:\program
> files\windows mail). Can you not set those as the programs to open the
> nws files? Furthermore, if you go to Control Panel | Programs | Set
> Program access and defaults in XP and make OE default, that should fix it
> (it might not) or in Vista going to Control Panel | Default program and
> making WinMail there default.
>
> That's what I don't understand, now that is clear you weren't uninstalling
> WinMail as you first indicated.
>
> cheers,
>
> steve
>
> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
> news:uJDKqnUOHHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Steve--
>>
>> I'll try to make this clearer. I absolutely did not uninstall Win Mail.
>> I thought I made it clear, but I'm appreciative of help from an OE/Win
>> Mail expert and I'll try to lay this out in clearer terms. I know there
>> is a way to fix my problem, but I'm sure having trouble doing it. What's
>> confusing you is that this is taking place in OE on XP and Win Mail on
>> Vista.
>>
>> Win Mail was working fine. It still works fine. OE was working fine,
>> and it still works fine. But take your post or my posts in this thread
>> as an example. We can drag them out onto the desktop or into a folder,
>> and save them as little envelop icons in OE, or whatever the little icon
>> is in Win Mail.
>>
>> I've had every build of Vista since July 2005, to RTM and drilled it
>> pretty thorougly, so I'm aware of OE in XP and Win Mail in Vista. I
>> apologize that I didn't make this clear to you.
>>
>> For simplicity sake, let's confine this to the XP boot and OE--although
>> technically it could or should be posted on the OE group--but the same
>> principle is at work with Win Mail and Vista. I'm on the XP boot now (in
>> a dual boot that has worked very well for me for the last year and a
>> half.)
>>
>> Here's what happened Steve:
>>
>> 1) A public Beta started a while back (far enough that I don't have a
>> restore point to use to try to fix this--whether it would or not I don't
>> know) that I linked and will link again and this was for a different kind
>> of mail--Windows Live Desktop Mail. The link for it is here:
>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>
>> 2) After I downloaded Windows Live Desktop Mail a few weeks ago, it took
>> over the file association for OE on XP and for Win Mail on Vista.
>>
>> Please keep in mind this has nothing to do with the functioning of OE/Win
>> Mail when you type msimn in or open up OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista.
>>
>> My problem is happening only with the newsgroup posts that I have dragged
>> out of OE and put into folders--I'm going to stick with OE in XP on this
>> now.
>>
>> We're talking about a good number of these that I use for reference
>> either to remind myself of something or use a link or to help out in the
>> groups.
>>
>> So again, there is no problem opening up a message either mailed or a
>> newsgroup post within OE. It's the ones that I drag out of the newsgroup
>> to save for easy retrieval that now won't open up. These NWS messages
>> *were opening up as Windows Desktop Live Messages (and if you havenpt
>> used it--it'll take over your file associations for those OE or Win Mail
>> messages that you drag out of the OE/Win Mail interface.
>>
>> The problem I had with this is they took forever to open up. It had
>> nothing to do with cpu or spyware or any other of the many causes for
>> slowness. Nothing else was slow. But Windows Desktoo Live Mail opens up
>> too slowly for me. So I uninstalled it from Add/Remove. Again this is
>> not OE or Win Mail. This is a totally different mail client from
>> MSFT --i.e. from MSN Live.
>>
>> I would have never downloaded it and installed it had I known it would
>> take over the file associations ***for those newsgroup messages that I
>> dragged outside of the OE interface to save (in folders with categories I
>> assigned by naming the folders).
>>
>> I uninstalled Windows Desktop Live Mail from Add/Remove uneventfully.
>> Now when I try to open up any of the newsgroup messages that I have
>> dragged out of OE into folders--I get the dialogue box that the NWS
>> message does not have a file associated with it to open it up.
>>
>> I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
>> find it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box,
>> and I cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association
>> back--I've tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the
>> known places where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for
>> me. Maybe I'm missing some place.
>>
>> Again, again I have no problem opening up the messages with OE--its those
>> messages I've dragged outside onto the desktop. So I can take your
>> response to me and open it up fine inside OE. It's when I drag it onto
>> the desktop that the problem starts, and I need to drag messages into
>> folders that I want to save because at some point they are going to be
>> off the server. Sure I could copy them into an OE email or another
>> client, but that's time consuming. Dragging email messages I wanted to
>> save worked great until Windows Desktop Live took over the file
>> association and they began opening slowly as Desktop Live Mail messages,
>> and then I uninstalled it and afterward they wouldn't open.
>>
>> I have a way to open them, but it's not the one I want. I can open them
>> with wordpad, and I'm sure I can open them with notepad or Word if I
>> wanted to associate that. I simply used wordpad with the dialogue box
>> that asked me what I wanted to open with since no NWS file was avilable.
>>
>> I added a NWS file to the "File types" tab list (reached by typing
>> control folders into the run box or via the toolbar in a folder (same
>> thing), but it does not show up in the what do you want to open with
>> dialogue box that I have to work with now when I want to open one of
>> these guys up.
>>
>> So again, I need help trying to restore the file association not to any
>> messages within OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista--but to those messages from
>> OE that I have chosen to drag out of the OE list to save.
>>
>> Thanks much for any help with this. Let me know if I'm not clear now,
>> and next time I'll do it with screenshots. I know that one of you guys
>> who have been OE experts for years can figure out a way.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:6A2FB256-2F1A-4467-A3FC-B59FA6E60CFA@microsoft.com...
>>> This is totally confusing. How did you uninstall WinMail? It is part
>>> of Vista and cannot be uninstalled.
>>>
>>> If you have a machine with Outlook Express on it (e.g. XP) then you
>>> cannot have WInMail on it, as WinMail only exists in Vista. Similarly,
>>> you cannot install OE on a machine that is running Vista. So I have no
>>> idea what you mean.
>>>
>>> NWS files in XP are opened with OE and in Vista are opened with WinMail
>>> by default.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>>>>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
>>>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>>>
>>>> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of
>>>> Win Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because
>>>> it takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>>>>
>>>> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
>>>> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
>>>> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I save
>>>> them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File
>>>> association for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows
>>>> cannot open this file. To open this file Windows needs to know what
>>>> program created it. The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the
>>>> association by adding it to Folder Options and then right clicking and
>>>> using the open with dialogue box but I had no luck.
>>>>
>>>> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
>>>> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work
>>>> and the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to browse
>>>> for it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me to change
>>>> the file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This includes going
>>>> to the folders where .dbxs are stored and where the personal message
>>>> store is
>>>>
>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
>>>> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
>>>> Express
>>>>
>>>> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP
>>>> and Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>>>>
>>>> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points
>>>> have been replaced that would have restored in the time period before I
>>>> installed Desktop Live.
>>>>
>>>> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude
>>>> of fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe
>>>> site, but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>>>>
>>>> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
>>>> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
>>>> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>>>>
>>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Attached is the correct setting for nws (Microsoft Internet News Message)
file types. You don't need to reinstall.

Remove the txt file extension and then you can merge it into the registry.
You might check the key first to see what's there already.

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Microsoft Internet News Message

That's for XP (or Server 2003)

steve

"Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
news:%23TgFIwXOHHA.4604@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Steve--
>
> I appreciate every suggestion. I tried the first many times before
> posting, and it simply brings up the OE interface in XP--browsing to
> C:\Program Files\Outlook Express or typing in the exact path you gave me
> in the browse dialogue box.
>
> The second has no impact--making OE the default mail.
>
> I wanted to be explicit because so often when I put up suggestions in the
> groups on a thread I wonder if the person is following the instructions
> correctly.
>
> I am trying in XP to reinstall XP SP2--as a sort of uber SFC--I tried SFC
> as I said and no joy, but it wouldn't reinstall and didn't spec the error
> on the desktop or in Event Viewer. While there is a log, the log is per
> Redmond's long standing tradition not in language I can understand.
>
> I will probably do a repair install next and am appreciative of any
> suggestions you come up with.
>
> I know there was a pathway to the undoing of this, and reason says there
> is a reverse pathway back if I could just figure it out. I suppose I
> could F8 and give LKG a shot--hail Mary that it is. This change was
> further back than the SR point I have--that is the install of Windows Live
> Mail Desktop or the uninstall.
>
> I appreciate your time.
>
> CH
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:73B10E0F-B13E-43E6-AD4F-AB2D088BF727@microsoft.com...
>> >I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
>> >find
>> it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box, and I
>> cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association back--I've
>> tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the known places
>> where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for me. Maybe I'm
>> missing some place.
>>
>> If you go to Open With for a nws file in either XP or Vista, there is a
>> Browse button to select the program. In XP the program is OE (c:\program
>> files\msimn.exe) and in Vista, the program is WinMail (c:\program
>> files\windows mail). Can you not set those as the programs to open the
>> nws files? Furthermore, if you go to Control Panel | Programs | Set
>> Program access and defaults in XP and make OE default, that should fix it
>> (it might not) or in Vista going to Control Panel | Default program and
>> making WinMail there default.
>>
>> That's what I don't understand, now that is clear you weren't
>> uninstalling WinMail as you first indicated.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
>> news:uJDKqnUOHHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Steve--
>>>
>>> I'll try to make this clearer. I absolutely did not uninstall Win Mail.
>>> I thought I made it clear, but I'm appreciative of help from an OE/Win
>>> Mail expert and I'll try to lay this out in clearer terms. I know there
>>> is a way to fix my problem, but I'm sure having trouble doing it.
>>> What's confusing you is that this is taking place in OE on XP and Win
>>> Mail on Vista.
>>>
>>> Win Mail was working fine. It still works fine. OE was working fine,
>>> and it still works fine. But take your post or my posts in this thread
>>> as an example. We can drag them out onto the desktop or into a folder,
>>> and save them as little envelop icons in OE, or whatever the little icon
>>> is in Win Mail.
>>>
>>> I've had every build of Vista since July 2005, to RTM and drilled it
>>> pretty thorougly, so I'm aware of OE in XP and Win Mail in Vista. I
>>> apologize that I didn't make this clear to you.
>>>
>>> For simplicity sake, let's confine this to the XP boot and OE--although
>>> technically it could or should be posted on the OE group--but the same
>>> principle is at work with Win Mail and Vista. I'm on the XP boot now
>>> (in a dual boot that has worked very well for me for the last year and a
>>> half.)
>>>
>>> Here's what happened Steve:
>>>
>>> 1) A public Beta started a while back (far enough that I don't have a
>>> restore point to use to try to fix this--whether it would or not I don't
>>> know) that I linked and will link again and this was for a different
>>> kind of mail--Windows Live Desktop Mail. The link for it is here:
>>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>>
>>> 2) After I downloaded Windows Live Desktop Mail a few weeks ago, it took
>>> over the file association for OE on XP and for Win Mail on Vista.
>>>
>>> Please keep in mind this has nothing to do with the functioning of
>>> OE/Win Mail when you type msimn in or open up OE in XP or Win Mail in
>>> Vista.
>>>
>>> My problem is happening only with the newsgroup posts that I have
>>> dragged out of OE and put into folders--I'm going to stick with OE in XP
>>> on this now.
>>>
>>> We're talking about a good number of these that I use for reference
>>> either to remind myself of something or use a link or to help out in the
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> So again, there is no problem opening up a message either mailed or a
>>> newsgroup post within OE. It's the ones that I drag out of the
>>> newsgroup to save for easy retrieval that now won't open up. These NWS
>>> messages *were opening up as Windows Desktop Live Messages (and if you
>>> havenpt used it--it'll take over your file associations for those OE or
>>> Win Mail messages that you drag out of the OE/Win Mail interface.
>>>
>>> The problem I had with this is they took forever to open up. It had
>>> nothing to do with cpu or spyware or any other of the many causes for
>>> slowness. Nothing else was slow. But Windows Desktoo Live Mail opens
>>> up too slowly for me. So I uninstalled it from Add/Remove. Again this
>>> is not OE or Win Mail. This is a totally different mail client from
>>> MSFT --i.e. from MSN Live.
>>>
>>> I would have never downloaded it and installed it had I known it would
>>> take over the file associations ***for those newsgroup messages that I
>>> dragged outside of the OE interface to save (in folders with categories
>>> I assigned by naming the folders).
>>>
>>> I uninstalled Windows Desktop Live Mail from Add/Remove uneventfully.
>>> Now when I try to open up any of the newsgroup messages that I have
>>> dragged out of OE into folders--I get the dialogue box that the NWS
>>> message does not have a file associated with it to open it up.
>>>
>>> I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
>>> find it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box,
>>> and I cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association
>>> back--I've tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the
>>> known places where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for
>>> me. Maybe I'm missing some place.
>>>
>>> Again, again I have no problem opening up the messages with OE--its
>>> those messages I've dragged outside onto the desktop. So I can take your
>>> response to me and open it up fine inside OE. It's when I drag it onto
>>> the desktop that the problem starts, and I need to drag messages into
>>> folders that I want to save because at some point they are going to be
>>> off the server. Sure I could copy them into an OE email or another
>>> client, but that's time consuming. Dragging email messages I wanted to
>>> save worked great until Windows Desktop Live took over the file
>>> association and they began opening slowly as Desktop Live Mail messages,
>>> and then I uninstalled it and afterward they wouldn't open.
>>>
>>> I have a way to open them, but it's not the one I want. I can open them
>>> with wordpad, and I'm sure I can open them with notepad or Word if I
>>> wanted to associate that. I simply used wordpad with the dialogue box
>>> that asked me what I wanted to open with since no NWS file was avilable.
>>>
>>> I added a NWS file to the "File types" tab list (reached by typing
>>> control folders into the run box or via the toolbar in a folder (same
>>> thing), but it does not show up in the what do you want to open with
>>> dialogue box that I have to work with now when I want to open one of
>>> these guys up.
>>>
>>> So again, I need help trying to restore the file association not to any
>>> messages within OE in XP or Win Mail in Vista--but to those messages
>>> from OE that I have chosen to drag out of the OE list to save.
>>>
>>> Thanks much for any help with this. Let me know if I'm not clear now,
>>> and next time I'll do it with screenshots. I know that one of you guys
>>> who have been OE experts for years can figure out a way.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6A2FB256-2F1A-4467-A3FC-B59FA6E60CFA@microsoft.com...
>>>> This is totally confusing. How did you uninstall WinMail? It is part
>>>> of Vista and cannot be uninstalled.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a machine with Outlook Express on it (e.g. XP) then you
>>>> cannot have WInMail on it, as WinMail only exists in Vista. Similarly,
>>>> you cannot install OE on a machine that is running Vista. So I have no
>>>> idea what you mean.
>>>>
>>>> NWS files in XP are opened with OE and in Vista are opened with WinMail
>>>> by default.
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%233UB76LOHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I often drag useful newsgroup posts to a folder for retrieval (mine and
>>>>>others) to use in posts or to get the information/links quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried the Win Live Mail Desktop public beta
>>>>> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.as...7-e36dd191a9f4
>>>>>
>>>>> for a few weeks last week and it immediately replaced the opening of
>>>>> Win Mail on Vista and OE on XP Pro SP2. I don't like Win Mail because
>>>>> it takes way too long to open up, and so I uninstalled it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can open a newsgroup message from OE or Win Mail fine, but after I
>>>>> uninstalled this piece of junk from MSN Live (IMHO), whenever I try to
>>>>> open a newsgroup message that I had dragged to the folders where I
>>>>> save them and classify them, I get a message that there is no File
>>>>> association for opening it. The message is the familiar "Windows
>>>>> cannot open this file. To open this file Windows needs to know what
>>>>> program created it. The message is a NWS file. I tried to create the
>>>>> association by adding it to Folder Options and then right clicking and
>>>>> using the open with dialogue box but I had no luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried adding the NWS file type from the dialogue box that springs up
>>>>> with the message there is no file association --and that does not work
>>>>> and the reason is that it's not listed there and you're asked to
>>>>> browse for it. I cannot find the place to browse that will allow me
>>>>> to change the file association to NWS in that dialogue box. This
>>>>> includes going to the folders where .dbxs are stored and where the
>>>>> personal message store is
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\My Profile\Local Settings\Application
>>>>> Data\Identities\{292F1CF4-0E56-4C5F-92CA-2A6E132A0775}\Microsoft\Outlook
>>>>> Express
>>>>>
>>>>> and C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and the file paths for OE on XP
>>>>> and Vista where .dbx messages are stored.
>>>>>
>>>>> System restore is not a good option here, because the restore points
>>>>> have been replaced that would have restored in the time period before
>>>>> I installed Desktop Live.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried running SFC and no joy. I've been going through the multitude
>>>>> of fixes on Tom Koch's (MVP's) Tomsterdam www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe
>>>>> site, but I don't see anything that directly applies there.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's obvious that Windows Live Mail Desktop replaced whatever file
>>>>> association I need to open these messages when they are not on the
>>>>> newsgroup list but removed to be stored in a folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> CH
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi, Steve - and Chad.

Frustratin', ain't it?

Chad, I saw what you saw with OE/WM a couple of weeks ago, but it involved a
couple of Adobe applications.

Every time I tried to read a PDF file, Vista tried to open it with Adobe
Photoshop Elements 4.0, rather than Adobe (formerly Acrobat) Reader. "Oh, I
know how to fix that simple problem", I told myself. So I went to Folder
Options - but File Types is not there in Vista, like it was in WinXP. So,
back to Control Panel and this time to Default Programs. First I clicked
Set your default programs...Wrong! Next I clicked Associate a file type or
protocol with a program. Aha! There's the list of extensions that used to
be in Folder Options. I scrolled down to .pdf and saw that it was set to
default to PSE4. So I clicked Change program... and the Open with screen
appeared. PSE4 was the only app under Recommended Programs; under Other
Programs was...Nothing! I couldn't even Browse to find Reader. :>( All I
could do was keep the association with PSE.

Finally, I uninstalled Reader and installed it again and the proper
association was established automatically. Now, the Open with screen
includes PSE, Word and Reader as Recommended Programs. So if I hadn't been
through the adventure, I would not understand that, sometimes, Reader does
not appear here.

That fixed the problem with Reader, but I don't see how it could work with
OE or WM, since they are integral to WinXP and Vista. Maybe the Registry
hack is the only way.

I'm posting this mostly just to let you both know that Chad is not imagining
things. Sometimes, Vista does not make the right file associations - and
doesn't offer all the proper applications under Folder Options.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Mail 7.0 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:C2C1FF0E-A325-4318-ADBB-E23EE633DA54@microsoft.com...
> Should be c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe and c:\program
> files\windows mail\winmail.exe.
>
> Too early in the am.
>
> steve
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:73B10E0F-B13E-43E6-AD4F-AB2D088BF727@microsoft.com...
>> >I have tried many ways to reassociate the NWS file with it, but I can't
>> >find
>> it because it is not listed on the open with >browse dialogue box, and I
>> cannot figure out where to browse to get that file association back--I've
>> tried a lot of places and like I said, going to any of the known places
>> where OE messages are stored--.dbx, etc. does not work for me. Maybe I'm
>> missing some place.
>>
>> If you go to Open With for a nws file in either XP or Vista, there is a
>> Browse button to select the program. In XP the program is OE (c:\program
>> files\msimn.exe) and in Vista, the program is WinMail (c:\program
>> files\windows mail). Can you not set those as the programs to open the
>> nws files? Furthermore, if you go to Control Panel | Programs | Set
>> Program access and defaults in XP and make OE default, that should fix it
>> (it might not) or in Vista going to Control Panel | Default program and
>> making WinMail there default.
>>
>> That's what I don't understand, now that is clear you weren't
>> uninstalling WinMail as you first indicated.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> steve
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